UK-ers think Americans killed the English language while some of their own ilk are walking around talking like this??
Loathed phrases/terms
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Nobody talks like that character...
Strangely though, the Geordie dialect could be considered to be the most authentic variation of English, ie. the closest to the language used by the Angles.
I'd think there has to be some basis in reality for the joke to land, but as I've never been there (let alone well enough versed in the varieties of dialects on offer,) I'll defer to your expertise.
If you want a pop culture reference, Davos in Game of Thrones had a pretty good Geordie accent. I'm not sure why though, since Liam Cunningham is Irish, and the character is supposed to be from King's Landing. The distribution of accents in Game of Thrones is fascinating.
I visited Newcastle when I visited the UK a few years back. No offense, but I swear the accents were some of the most difficult to understand for someone who allegedly speaks the same language I do(and yes, I'm aware American and British English are quite different).
My dad is from Panama, and apparently has a thick Spanish accent, but given I learned to speak listening to him and my mom for 40 years, I can't hear it. Also grew up with two friends from Jamaica who moved to the States when they were very young (8-10 years old.) They got Americanized pretty quickly and lost all trace of their accents, but when their family visited, they slipped back into their native accents, and I could barely understand them. It would seem you need to be removed from the thick of a thing to appreciate its objective qualities. Native British people can probably hear the differences in English dialects, but not fully appreciate just how different they are given many are something they encounter every day. Or I'm wrong.
That is the proverbial red flag to my proverbial bull. It infuriates me to see it used in opening posts and the followed by the most inane of positions. Because the answer is “No, you’re not the only one. You’re never the only one”.
You aren't wrong. When I first moved here it took years until I could follow a conversation properly. I was walking behind some kids down the road once and they honestly could have been speaking another language. But a lot of it is familiarity; I can understand pretty much anyone now (though there's always some clown who thinks it's funny to make the dialect deliberately unintelligible when they realise I'm from the south, but if need be I can do a passable Danny Dyer impression, so then we're both being dicks).
As a Navy vet, I totally agree. It was always super awkward for me when people did that(since I was an engineer type and handled a tool box FAR more often then I handled a weapon) and I found the best way to deal with it was say "Thank you for your support" and quickly move on to the rest of the conversation.
Next time, try finger-guns, but leave it open what you mean by that.
"Facts don't care about your feelings". Not because it's untrue, it's just that I personally see it most often when someone believes their feelings are facts and someone else's facts are just their feelings.
"I Think X Thing, Change My Mind!"
Fuck you, that's not how it works. You have made a declaration, now YOU prove it. That's how this goes. It's not my job to disprove your idiotic, often intentionally trolly statement, while you just sit back and act smug as if you have the moral highground or something. Make YOUR case, I don't unmake your case, you arrogant fuck.
Fuck you, that's not how it works. You have made a declaration, now YOU prove it. That's how this goes. It's not my job to disprove your idiotic, often intentionally trolly statement, while you just sit back and act smug as if you have the moral highground or something. Make YOUR case, I don't unmake your case, you arrogant fuck.
You’re never going to win a debate when someone has pretended they already have won
Oh I know, it's why I loathe the phrase. It's shifting the burden of proof, and I find that incredibly infuriating.
"I'm Just Saying/I'm merely pointing out/I'm just presenting facts"
There's nothing ostensibly wrong with just presenting facts. There are times I do that.
When it gets on my nerves is when people just use it as a shield to deflect when someone debunks their 'facts' or when they want to stir the pot but not get burned by the heat.
And also "Debunk"
Debunk doesn't mean find someone or a group of people who disagree with actual proven facts. Debunk means evidence that proves to the contrary where our understanding is fundamentally changed.
These things were debunked.
thebestschools.org
A good deal of things on Parler that "debunk" subjects... I'd take that with a grain of salt.
Lastly? "Destroyed"
"So and So DESTROYED these Right-wing idiots" "Watch how This One Dude DESTROYS SJW cucks!"
Literally almost every mention of some interaction between different thoughts and ideals are always set up as these battles... It was once a time where people could have different ideas and just talk them, not try to break down everything someone believes. It creates this need to be a champion that destroys the others. I might not agree with current Republican ideals, but I don't want Republicans to be DESTROYED. I get some of their mind sets. I understand wanting to have more autonomy over their lives, more of their own money in their pocket, and a whole host of other ideals.
I feel like more compromises need to be had between us, and not seeking epic struggles of mutual destruction over stupid and trivial things.
There's nothing ostensibly wrong with just presenting facts. There are times I do that.
When it gets on my nerves is when people just use it as a shield to deflect when someone debunks their 'facts' or when they want to stir the pot but not get burned by the heat.
And also "Debunk"
Debunk doesn't mean find someone or a group of people who disagree with actual proven facts. Debunk means evidence that proves to the contrary where our understanding is fundamentally changed.
These things were debunked.
15 Popular Science Myths Debunked
1. Solar is a solid substance, it's more like superheated ions and electrons. When cooled, it becomes gas, but then it takes on
thebestschools.org
A good deal of things on Parler that "debunk" subjects... I'd take that with a grain of salt.
Lastly? "Destroyed"
"So and So DESTROYED these Right-wing idiots" "Watch how This One Dude DESTROYS SJW cucks!"
Literally almost every mention of some interaction between different thoughts and ideals are always set up as these battles... It was once a time where people could have different ideas and just talk them, not try to break down everything someone believes. It creates this need to be a champion that destroys the others. I might not agree with current Republican ideals, but I don't want Republicans to be DESTROYED. I get some of their mind sets. I understand wanting to have more autonomy over their lives, more of their own money in their pocket, and a whole host of other ideals.
I feel like more compromises need to be had between us, and not seeking epic struggles of mutual destruction over stupid and trivial things.