lollipop Chainsaw is a terrible idea.

Assassin Xaero

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TaintedSaint said:
I believe games like Lollipop Chainsaw do nothing but hurt the progress
And movies like Hostile, Paranormal Activity, Superbad, and many others do nothing but "hurt" the film industry. Not everything in games is about getting them accepted as a form of art. Even if they are accepted, then what? We will just get the same generic trash over and over (FEAR 3 for example). It is a business, and if they are just out to make money, they will do what sells. Games are not going anywhere, so what does it matter what games come out? Just don't play it.
 

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TaintedSaint said:
medium on par with film
That implies that film doesn't have movies similar to the prospect of Lollipop Chainsaw, and other silly games from Suda51's repertoire.

Lollipop Chainsaw being completely batshit silly, with the decapitated head boyfriend, and the panty-shot machine cheerleader as the protagonist is ridiculous. While I may not be as versed in film as I am with games, I can assure you there are at least 3 movies with similar sexual properties in 3:1 ratio to LC.

It's not a big deal. Silly games will always be welcome, just like silly movies.
 

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Umm...where were you when Bayonetta came out? That game and many others are Lollipop Chainsaws predecessors. They didn't hinder the gaming medium. And you say that LC is every 14yr old boys fantasy. Let's increase the age range from 13 to at least 35, I think. Hot chick in a schoolgirl outfit fighting hordes of undead with a chainsaw is a grand idea.
Comics are viewed as art. Just flip through the pages of some well established comics, then turn around and open up your local news paper to the funnies. Tell me if one comic is viewed as less artistic than the other. They may have styles that are worlds apart but it doesn't make one superior to the other in terms of what they are.
 

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Why would this one game be an issue? Look at movies you have Piranha 3D which is a movie about breasts and breasts being eaten, by Piranha....in THREE DEEEE.

And they're perfectly fine as a artistic medium even with films like that and Two Headed Shark attack. I'm sure games can pull it off with things like Journey, Dragon Age, Mass Effect God of War (yes, god of war), and such.
 

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Isn't that... kinda the point?

I was under the impression that Lollipop Chainsaw was supposed to be stupid and silly. I may even go so far as to say that it's satire [small](of course, you never can tell :p)[/small]. And it's Suda 51! What do you expect?
 

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Fan fic's can be some of the most horrific things you will ever experience(especially Harry Potter ones)that doesn't mean all books are tarred with the same brush and the fact is that some people like those fan fic's just as some people will like lollipop chainsaw who are we to deprive them off it.So shut up about artistic integrity and how games that are mindless fun are the work of the devil its fucking stupid and you know it.Also I call troll not that that stopped me biting.
 

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TaintedSaint said:
Gaming as a whole in recent years has tried to prove to the world that it is a valid artistic medium on par with film and should be protected under the first amendment
Has it, though? To be quite honest with you, I only ever see talk of this around here. I've never heard a developer actually say something along the lines of, "we're trying to improve the image of the industry." That could just be me, however.
I believe games like Lollipop Chainsaw do nothing but hurt the progress
that the medium has made of the years.
Alright, show me your moves.
People in politics over the years have said that games are too violent and have too much sex in them and this game is blatantly throwing it in everyone face.
That's the point.
Sure the game companies can say "its a mature game kids should not play it" But come on its a half naked chick in a schoolgirl uniform killing zombies basically every 14 year old boys wet dream.
Explain to me how this means anything at all. I can imagine you're insinuating kids under the recommended age will buy the game anyway, but the truth of the matter is that it's all about the parents and whether they care about what their child plays.
I for one and not normally one to cry that games have too much sex and violence but this game is blatantly spiting in the face of all the hard work game developers have fought for for so long.
I reiterate, that's the point. Perhaps not to spit in the face of the industry, but to be sexualized and violent. That's the damn point. I believe it falls under being tongue-in-cheek. It's not a game you're supposed to take seriously. So, please don't.
 

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Let me tell you something OP. If THIS little fucker couldn't kill our medium



Then I'm quite certain the industry is quite safe from Suda's latest serving of uncut insanity.
 

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Lollipop chainsaw is being made by the guy who made this.





You've got nothing to worry about. Also the main character is voiced by the same actress who voices this popular character.


So at the very least we'll get some entertaining fan dubs.
 

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All media has a right to exist you may not agree with the messages and themes but they are the messages and themes chosen by its creator and therefore are in their own special way sacred , why should our favourite medium be limited or restricted ?

I admit lollipop chainsaw probably won't start a gaming renaissance but it has a right to try. on the topic of movies, movies such as the human centipede Are still allowed to exist even with the small contribution they make the medium as a whole .
 

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I like mature movies with a great story, good and serious acting, make great points about certain subjects and trying to make us think and not just passively watch. Then there are times where I just want to kick back and watch some silly movie.
Same with games. I love what games like LIMBO are trying to do and am really happy to see that many others try things like that as well but I'll be damned if I don't like to start up Saints Row the Third and shoot down a chopper with pistols while wearing silly clothes.
I want the medium to be taken serious and move forward but if it means that we have to get rid of games like that then no thank you, I'll keep my silly over the top games.
Of course, I'm pretty sure that we don't have to get rid of those for games to be a more accepted medium. It's been pointed out often in this thread. Movies and Books also have "stupid" material, that doesn't mean that medium as a whole is stupid as well.
 

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Jack and Calumon said:
...or has to be put on the roof of the Sistine chapel. Sometimes you just draw a man's pork sword.
Isn't there a drawing of a man's pork sword on the roof of the Sistine chapel already?
 

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It looks to me like a Quintin Terintino movie, i.e. it's meant to be as goofy as possible, as is everything else Suda51 does. I'd like to play Killer 7 some time.
Besides, not everything has to be art. Not every movie needs to be Citizen Kane, sometimes I just want to watch a chick in a yellow leather jumpsuit fight off 88 (well, not exactly 88) screaming men in black masks in the most over the top way possible. I don't want every game I play to be on the Silent Hill 2 level, sometimes I just want to fight off about 46 demons with a variety of incredibly powerful weapons while sprinting at nearly 60 miles per hour.
Captcha was "have an inkling" and it had a picture of a lizzard behind it next to what appears to be a 4 legged woman carrying a briefcase.
I like the new captchas.
 
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Kermi said:
I think people complaining that Lollipop Chainsaw is overly violent and has a needlessly sexualised protagonist and thus flies in the face of the "hard work" the gaming industry has done to establish gaming as a respectable artform need to pull the stick outta their ass and remember games are first and foremost entertainment and supposed to be fun.

I'm stick of every goddamn gaming taking itself too seriously, trying to have a "message", or pushing innovation for innovation's sake.

I'm going to get Lollipop Chainsaw and I'm probably going to love it. Here's why:

Created by Grasshopper Manufacture/Suda 51.
Written by James Gunn, creator of the hilarious "safe for work porn".
Music by Akira Yamaoka AND Mindless Self Indulgence.
You play as a goddamn cheerleader cutting up zombies with a goddamn chainsaw, and if it's anything like Suda's last effort, Shadows of the Damned, it'll be rife with tongue in cheek homages to great horror slasher flicks of the 80s. I believe one of Juliet's alternate costumes is Ash from The Evil Dead.

If you can't stop obsessing over the social implications of this kind of title and just enjoy it, I have to conclude that you're completely dead inside.
also if your an anime fan suda 51's otaku power-level leaked with kore no zombie "is this a zombie" dlc coustume of haruna for the main character. I am getting it to mainly because games are meant to be fun, also peeps have clip of said anime.

 

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Smertnik said:
So in order for video games to have the same artistic value and freedom as movies they should have less artistic freedom?
This^

Risingblade said:
Not every game needs to be a work of art
and This ^

Just because a game can be shallow doesn't discredit the entire form. I mean by a lot of peoples logic film isn't a art form because chick flicks are made or hell take it a step further does porn discredit film as a artistic format? Does comics like Bleach make comics not a viable artistic outlet?
 

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What a joke topic. Creativity means seeing things you don't like, and art means people expressing themselves in ways you don't approve of. It isn't hurting gaming as an art form, it's not doing anything whatsoever to Shadow of the Colossus, Braid or Super Meat Boy. All that crap is still there, and you can still enjoy it.

Just like how Michael Bay movies aren't in any way harming the film career of David Cronenberg. You don't like the game? Write a bad review, or don't buy it.

The only people who would hold a game like Lollipop Chainsaw against gaming as a whole are the morons at places like Fox News, and who bloody cares what they think?