lollipop Chainsaw is a terrible idea.

[sabercrusader]

I seriously doubt that ONE game is going to set us back as an art form. Besides, why do you care so much about what other people think about the industry? I doubt most people think we're too over the top, it's just that with anything, the radical minority is always very, very vocal.

It's like saying everyone hates Twilight, obviously not if they're doing so well in movie theaters, why would you think that? Oh, maybe because most people that talk about Twilight hate on it constantly. But apparently, either they're just joining the crowd and go see the movies anyways, or they're just the minority. I'm betting on the latter. I personally don't like it, and think it shouldn't do as well as it does, but meh. All the power to them if it does do well.

The point is, Lollipop Chainsaw isn't really all that bad, and you shouldn't care about what other people think of the Industry, because they're more than likely just a vocal minority.

 

[Racecarlock]

Oh jesus christ. My point has already been made by everyone else in this thread, so just fuck off back to every day the same dream would you? Thanks.

 

[AbsoluteVirtue18]

I'd much rather have a funny game that's fun to play than some pretentious-ass game that has crap gameplay. Lollipop Chainsaw looks like a fun game, and it's one of the few games I plan on buying this year, along with Resident Evil 6 and Fall Of Cybertron. I don't give a damn if it's "Artistic" I just want to have fun.

Plus, if LC had to be compared to a movie, I'd probably compare it to Army of Darkness. And nobody talks crap about Army of Darkness. Also, I'm fairly certain that her outfit is a cheerleader uniform, not a schoolgirl uniform.

 

[DigitalAtlas]

Gaming as a whole in recent years has tried to prove to the world that it is a valid artistic medium on par with film and should be protected under the first amendment I believe games like Lollipop Chainsaw do nothing but hurt the progress
that the medium has made of the years.
People in politics over the years have said that games are too violent and have too much sex in them and this game is blatantly throwing it in everyone face. Sure the game companies can say "its a mature game kids should not play it" But come on its a half naked chick in a schoolgirl uniform killing zombies basically every 14 year old boys wet dream.
I for one and not normally one to cry that games have too much sex and violence but this game is blatantly spiting in the face of all the hard work game developers have fought for for so long.

>Art like film
>Clearly forgetting about Rocky Horror Picture Show

See, the way you're using art, you expect all games to be like Braid and Limbo and have some deep meaning. That's not what art is and your definition is far too limiting. Look at the Smithsonian picked games. Gradius V was one. That's not Social Network, that's Independence Day.

Next point:

>Half-naked girl
>Girl wearing a Catholic school uniform

(yes, I know it's a Japanese school uniform,just run with it as they're near identical)

Those Catholics are such a fan of nudity, right? You can see her legs. Are you saying women shouldn't be able to wear shorts because all young boy will fap?

>Hard work game devs have been doing to make the medium an art form.

What crack you on? There has been little progress made throughout this generation. I mean it, look at the released games. Most are shooters and the best ones are the ones that want to take life to the extreme like Vanquish. This gen has Gears of War as one of its lead franchises, as well as God of War. Think about that.

 

[Get_A_Grip_]

a valid artistic medium on par with film

If film is allowed to have trash like Sucker Punch, Transformers and American Pie then gaming should have it's own equivalents.
Not every film has to be like Citizen Kane or The Godfather and the same should apply to games.

 

[noble cookie]

So what, are games not allowed to simply be good old fashioned mindless fun anymore?

At the end of the day that's what it's all about.

Edit:
As people mentioned, it's made by Suda 51. Don't expect it to make sense, do expect it to be filled with gore, sexual themes and bad f*cking language.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

I believe games like Lollipop Chainsaw do nothing but hurt the progress

And movies like Hostile, Paranormal Activity, Superbad, and many others do nothing but "hurt" the film industry. Not everything in games is about getting them accepted as a form of art. Even if they are accepted, then what? We will just get the same generic trash over and over (FEAR 3 for example). It is a business, and if they are just out to make money, they will do what sells. Games are not going anywhere, so what does it matter what games come out? Just don't play it.

 

[lacktheknack]

Why Lollipop Chainsaw? You could take aim at a lot of other games, you know.

 

[dancinginfernal]

medium on par with film

That implies that film doesn't have movies similar to the prospect of Lollipop Chainsaw, and other silly games from Suda51's repertoire.

Lollipop Chainsaw being completely batshit silly, with the decapitated head boyfriend, and the panty-shot machine cheerleader as the protagonist is ridiculous. While I may not be as versed in film as I am with games, I can assure you there are at least 3 movies with similar sexual properties in 3:1 ratio to LC.

It's not a big deal. Silly games will always be welcome, just like silly movies.

 

[Lunar Templar]

So? Micheal Bay still makes movies but films are still considered respectable.

i .... have nothing that could hope to compete with this ....

 

[Con Carne]

Umm...where were you when Bayonetta came out? That game and many others are Lollipop Chainsaws predecessors. They didn't hinder the gaming medium. And you say that LC is every 14yr old boys fantasy. Let's increase the age range from 13 to at least 35, I think. Hot chick in a schoolgirl outfit fighting hordes of undead with a chainsaw is a grand idea.
Comics are viewed as art. Just flip through the pages of some well established comics, then turn around and open up your local news paper to the funnies. Tell me if one comic is viewed as less artistic than the other. They may have styles that are worlds apart but it doesn't make one superior to the other in terms of what they are.

 

[Snotnarok]

Why would this one game be an issue? Look at movies you have Piranha 3D which is a movie about breasts and breasts being eaten, by Piranha....in THREE DEEEE.

And they're perfectly fine as a artistic medium even with films like that and Two Headed Shark attack. I'm sure games can pull it off with things like Journey, Dragon Age, Mass Effect God of War (yes, god of war), and such.

 

[War Penguin]

Isn't that... kinda the point?

I was under the impression that Lollipop Chainsaw was supposed to be stupid and silly. I may even go so far as to say that it's satire [small](of course, you never can tell )[/small]. And it's Suda 51! What do you expect?

 

[thelonewolf266]

Fan fic's can be some of the most horrific things you will ever experience(especially Harry Potter ones)that doesn't mean all books are tarred with the same brush and the fact is that some people like those fan fic's just as some people will like lollipop chainsaw who are we to deprive them off it.So shut up about artistic integrity and how games that are mindless fun are the work of the devil its fucking stupid and you know it.Also I call troll not that that stopped me biting.

 

[The_Echo]

Gaming as a whole in recent years has tried to prove to the world that it is a valid artistic medium on par with film and should be protected under the first amendment

Has it, though? To be quite honest with you, I only ever see talk of this around here. I've never heard a developer actually say something along the lines of, "we're trying to improve the image of the industry." That could just be me, however.

I believe games like Lollipop Chainsaw do nothing but hurt the progress
that the medium has made of the years.

Alright, show me your moves.

People in politics over the years have said that games are too violent and have too much sex in them and this game is blatantly throwing it in everyone face.

That's the point.

Sure the game companies can say "its a mature game kids should not play it" But come on its a half naked chick in a schoolgirl uniform killing zombies basically every 14 year old boys wet dream.

Explain to me how this means anything at all. I can imagine you're insinuating kids under the recommended age will buy the game anyway, but the truth of the matter is that it's all about the parents and whether they care about what their child plays.

I for one and not normally one to cry that games have too much sex and violence but this game is blatantly spiting in the face of all the hard work game developers have fought for for so long.

I reiterate, that's the point. Perhaps not to spit in the face of the industry, but to be sexualized and violent. That's the damn point. I believe it falls under being tongue-in-cheek. It's not a game you're supposed to take seriously. So, please don't.

 

[Metalix Knightmare]

Let me tell you something OP. If THIS little fucker couldn't kill our medium

Then I'm quite certain the industry is quite safe from Suda's latest serving of uncut insanity.

 

[CD-R]

Lollipop chainsaw is being made by the guy who made this.

You've got nothing to worry about. Also the main character is voiced by the same actress who voices this popular character.

Spoiler

So at the very least we'll get some entertaining fan dubs.

 

[Biodeamon]

you sound like a over-protective catholic mother.

 

[hex000]

All media has a right to exist you may not agree with the messages and themes but they are the messages and themes chosen by its creator and therefore are in their own special way sacred , why should our favourite medium be limited or restricted ?

I admit lollipop chainsaw probably won't start a gaming renaissance but it has a right to try. on the topic of movies, movies such as the human centipede Are still allowed to exist even with the small contribution they make the medium as a whole .

 

[Beryl77]

I like mature movies with a great story, good and serious acting, make great points about certain subjects and trying to make us think and not just passively watch. Then there are times where I just want to kick back and watch some silly movie.
Same with games. I love what games like LIMBO are trying to do and am really happy to see that many others try things like that as well but I'll be damned if I don't like to start up Saints Row the Third and shoot down a chopper with pistols while wearing silly clothes.
I want the medium to be taken serious and move forward but if it means that we have to get rid of games like that then no thank you, I'll keep my silly over the top games.
Of course, I'm pretty sure that we don't have to get rid of those for games to be a more accepted medium. It's been pointed out often in this thread. Movies and Books also have "stupid" material, that doesn't mean that medium as a whole is stupid as well.