LucasArts Run by "Psychopaths"

Vigormortis

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canadamus_prime said:
I don't think that's a condition exclusive to LucusArts, I think it's a pandemic that has infected the whole industry.
Worse, it's a condition that's infected almost every entertainment industry there is. Gaming, film, television, music...it's almost nothing but corporate greed, dick-moves, and scamming the consumer. Creativity and original ideas are more often than not (if they ever happen) just a "happy accident".

That may make me sound like a cynical twit, but seriously try to tell me I'm wrong. And say it with a straight face.
 

Canadamus Prime

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Vigormortis said:
canadamus_prime said:
I don't think that's a condition exclusive to LucusArts, I think it's a pandemic that has infected the whole industry.
Worse, it's a condition that's infected almost every entertainment industry there is. Gaming, film, television, music...it's almost nothing but corporate greed, dick-moves, and scamming the consumer. Creativity and original ideas are more often than not (if they ever happen) just a "happy accident".

That may make me sound like a cynical twit, but seriously try to tell me I'm wrong. And say it with a straight face.
No, you're right. I had just been hoping that the gaming industry wouldn't go down that road.
 

Vigormortis

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canadamus_prime said:
Vigormortis said:
canadamus_prime said:
I don't think that's a condition exclusive to LucusArts, I think it's a pandemic that has infected the whole industry.
Worse, it's a condition that's infected almost every entertainment industry there is. Gaming, film, television, music...it's almost nothing but corporate greed, dick-moves, and scamming the consumer. Creativity and original ideas are more often than not (if they ever happen) just a "happy accident".

That may make me sound like a cynical twit, but seriously try to tell me I'm wrong. And say it with a straight face.
No, you're right. I had just been hoping that the gaming industry wouldn't go down that road.
Still, there are still a few creatives out there who have found ways to work within and without the system to create some great works. They're few and far between, granted, but at least artistry hasn't completely died yet.
 

Canadamus Prime

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Vigormortis said:
canadamus_prime said:
Vigormortis said:
canadamus_prime said:
I don't think that's a condition exclusive to LucusArts, I think it's a pandemic that has infected the whole industry.
Worse, it's a condition that's infected almost every entertainment industry there is. Gaming, film, television, music...it's almost nothing but corporate greed, dick-moves, and scamming the consumer. Creativity and original ideas are more often than not (if they ever happen) just a "happy accident".

That may make me sound like a cynical twit, but seriously try to tell me I'm wrong. And say it with a straight face.
No, you're right. I had just been hoping that the gaming industry wouldn't go down that road.
Still, there are still a few creatives out there who have found ways to work within and without the system to create some great works. They're few and far between, granted, but at least artistry hasn't completely died yet.
Yeah true, it's just sad that it's become the exception rather than the rule.
 

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Lunar Templar said:
i think its the 'leading the on to drain the the studios money' that's pissing people off the most.
Could you kindly rephrase that? I'm not trying to be a dick; I seriously think there's word missing there.
 

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SnakeoilSage said:
All that's needed now is for THX to fumble and produce a movie that sounds like it's being played down fifty feet of garden hose and Lucas' legacy officially curls itself around a Glock.
That (Sort of) already happened. The THX certified DVD of the Highlander Director's Cut is one of the ugliest DVDs ever made, being apparently a straight transfer of the (good for laserdisc, but in need of some changes for everything to work properly on DVD) Laserdisc release, which had actually earned its THX certification. Plus they were apparently having issues with theaters paying to re-certify, which led to them relaxing the standards on theaters that had been certified at least once before (like, letting the theater's in house sound guy do the certification relaxed), which eventually led to them being borderline irrelevant. I recently checked to see if there were any THX certified theaters near my house, and was shocked to find out that there wasn't a single one in the state of Florida, with the two nearest being in Georgia and North Carolina, respectively.

OT: Man is that sad. Lucasarts published a lot of the games on my list of favorites. I knew they had slipped in the last decade, but I didn't know they fell this far.

Edit: I should note the sound quality on that DVD was alright, if a bit light on bass. It was the video that was the problem; full of analog dot crawl left over from the laserdisc, non anamorphic, and the still image gallery was done laserdisc style, where you have to pause it and go frame by frame to see the images -- a feature that not all DVD players support.
 

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Not everyone gets to be the developer; the people the consumers cite when they praise good games. Some people are just really good at logistics. Or they know their market and how to bend it. These are the publishers, they fund, market, and distribute the objects that make the industry what it is. That is exactly what this medium is; an industry.

Every job doesn't get to be the selfless artist who takes pride in his work and gets to accept the love of his/her fans. In fact, most jobs are rather more subtle, even while being more profitable. True, you can't accept any praise for your work, in fact it's quite the opposite. But it doesn't mean they aren't artists too, out not for glory but wealth and power. If they can't be artists for the public, then they'll have to be artists for themselves. Building and destroying, molding the industry in a way they see fit, until it's a suitable sculpture.

Publishers do their job just as well as any other, but their critics are the money given to them for their work.
 

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I hope the LucasArts execs in charge get fucked with rakes.

Battlefront 3 would be incredible, and looking at the leaked alpha footage...I would likely still be playing it, it would be THAT good.
 

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Please people, don't act surprised at this. We've already been told that this is how publishers act on a regular basis by Brian Fargo. There is only one way to fight this bullshit. You know which way I'm talking about.
Quake tournaments?
 

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those fucking idiots... do they not realize that any sequel to battlefront would have EASILY made up the money they were spending? ESPECIALLY with the details we heard about. going from ground to space combat seamlessly.... they shot themselves in the foot. or wallet actually...
 

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lacktheknack said:
Sixcess said:
LucasArts on one side, EA on the other.

Bioware is so fucked.
How in the name of all that's hellish and unholy did they manage to get The Old Republic out between the two publishers?
300 million dollars and an untold amount of years?
if you throw enough money at something, it does happen.
 

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
SnakeoilSage said:
All that's needed now is for THX to fumble and produce a movie that sounds like it's being played down fifty feet of garden hose and Lucas' legacy officially curls itself around a Glock.
That (Sort of) already happened. The THX certified DVD of the Highlander Director's Cut is one of the ugliest DVDs ever made, being apparently a straight transfer of the (good for laserdisc, but in need of some changes for everything to work properly on DVD) Laserdisc release, which had actually earned its THX certification. Plus they were apparently having issues with theaters paying to re-certify, which led to them relaxing the standards on theaters that had been certified at least once before (like, letting the theater's in house sound guy do the certification relaxed), which eventually led to them being borderline irrelevant. I recently checked to see if there were any THX certified theaters near my house, and was shocked to find out that there wasn't a single one in the state of Florida, with the two nearest being in Georgia and North Carolina, respectively.

OT: Man is that sad. Lucasarts published a lot of the games on my list of favorites. I knew they had slipped in the last decade, but I didn't know they fell this far.

Edit: I should note the sound quality on that DVD was alright, if a bit light on bass. It was the video that was the problem; full of analog dot crawl left over from the laserdisc, non anamorphic, and the still image gallery was done laserdisc style, where you have to pause it and go frame by frame to see the images -- a feature that not all DVD players support.
Ouch. That's bad. It's like he's lost touch with his own company or he's deliberately spiting us for not liking his recent work.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Lunar Templar said:
i think its the 'leading the studio on to drain to their money' that's pissing people off the most.
Could you kindly rephrase that? I'm not trying to be a dick; I seriously think there's word missing there.
>.> or a typo but i see what you mean, lemme try again, with less 'me sucking at typing'

also, no, i don't know why i had 'the' in there twice, but it happens enough that i think its just a weird typing 'tic' of mine
 

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SnakeoilSage said:
Ouch. That's bad. It's like he's lost touch with his own company or he's deliberately spiting us for not liking his recent work.
Lost touch is more like it. The Highlander DVD was a really early release (there's a copyright date of 1997 on my copy, which would make it one of the first ever), and the theater problems took a long time to come to fruition. I think it's more important that Tom Holman (the Lucasfilm employee whose project it originally was) left; THX without Tom Holman is like Valve without Gabe Newell.
 

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You know, I have never really resented a publisher as much as this to say I will never buy another game endorsed by them.

Not even EA.

The battlefront franchise was one of the most successful things they've ever released.
And they destroyed it.
Because they thought something the public was itching for wouldn't sell.

Until I see news that Battlefront 3 is resurrected, they won't get a damn penny from me. Ever.

I repeat, NEVER have I been this pissed over this type of bullfuckery.
 

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I hope everyone is happy, this is the gaming industry today. It's no wonder everyone with even the slightest spark of imagination or intelligence goes to make their own indie studio so they don't have to work with any of the big names.
 

CrazyCapnMorgan

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xPixelatedx said:
I hope everyone is happy, this is the gaming industry today. It's no wonder everyone with even the slightest spark of imagination or intelligence goes to make their own indie studio so they don't have to work with any of the big names.
And some people wonder what the big reason is for hating publishers.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Ever notice that when money is the dominant factor in anything, all creativity, innovation and depth (common sense is included with LucasArts) suddenly becomes non-existant? Greed = disaster. History has proven this many times and current trends in human behavior show that it won't be stopping in the foreseeable future