poiuppx said:
itf cho said:
Sorry, Mr. Goldman - but you got scooped. There is already a lengthy thread on this exact topic somewhere in the community forums.
However, apparently the only group it's okay to 'pick on' now is the Nazis. We usually don't hear many people getting upset when another WWII shooter comes out, and we're plinking Hitler's goons.
I complain, chiefly because I'd like to see more games set in wars OTHER than freaking WWII. Humanity is very very good at having wars; can't we give credit to some of the other ones? Where's my WWI first person shooter from a major label studio? That's a Call of Duty I'd respond to!
OT, this is just idiotic. If you're that worried about public perception of the people you suppossedly represent, go do good in the community. Help people. Don't try to kick a form of entertainment in the crotch. Because even if this HAD worked, you know what, Unico? We'd now have the stereotype of modern Italian-Americans as bitter, unrealistic Stop Having Fun Guys. That's probably not the image you wanted to portray either.
In short, grow a pair and do good for the world instead of trying to whitewash it. Light a candle versus cursing the darkness, that whole malarky.
The thing to consider is that "World War II" is one of the few wars that actually mattered on a global scale. It goes beyond snide comments about it being "popular" simply because us Americans were the big heroes. "World War I" in comparison did involve a lot of things but didn't much matter since it resolved very little, it was more or less a lapse before "World War II" and was fought over issues from that war. I suspect due to the influance the treaties from "World War" I had on it in a couple of centuries when we're more seperated from it we'll probably condense it into one period.
Other wars DO get covered in video games, but mostly ancient ones involving Romans, Spartans, Knights, Napoleanic Soldiers, etc...
Understand that political correctness plays into this, very similar to what the Italians are talking about here. Just because something is true, does not mean that people don't find it offensive, and when they find it offensive the whole left wing "political correctness" machine jumps into full force and if the cards fall right people start waving the "hate speech" hammer around. Nobody wants to be on the receiving end of that. Sadly we live in an era where the truth is becoming increasingly irrelevent before political correctness.
The point of that rant being that if you deal with wars involving people and regimes that are still around, they are likely to be offended. The Nazis are "dead" as far as Germany claims and the nature of the war means it's not like anyone is coming to their defense even when they are exagerrated. On the other hand if you use Russians as the bad guys either in films set during "The Cold War" or in the scope of current events where they are acting that way again, people scream and yell. You can't deal with wars of conquest out in the islands or whatever without being politically correct, and if you start dealing with any one of dozens of European vs. European wars out there someone is going to freak out if they feel they are being presented as the bad guy, irregardless of whether it's true or not. Despite what some people might think, this becomes an issue regardless of whether Americans are involved or not.
Fantastical situations (Zombies, Aliens, Monsters, etc...), ancient history, and World War II are pretty much the only types of conflict it's safe to touch. When someone wanted to do a game based on the invasion of "Fallujah" politically correct people absolutly freaked out (there are articles about it on this site).
At any rate, on the subject you also have to understand (as I said in another post) that while the Italian-Americans are dead wrong here in what they want, there are some legitimate issues attached to their complaints. Sadly those issues are pretty much impossible to resolve without creating evils in excess of what would be being addressed.
Still, it illustrates exactly your problems with war games, nobody wants to be labeled as the bad guy. The Mafia is not a positive thing, and there is no illusion that in "Mafia 2" your playing as anything but a villain, just like other crime games set in other periods. No matter who, if real groups are involved, the bad guy(s) and/or the ones being shot at by the protaganist are going to have issues, and thanks to the left wing and the amount of power it has, they are going to be taken plenty seriously and given platforms.
