Man Forgot Loaded Handgun in His Carry-On, TSA Forgot To Notice
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The planes part is the silly bit but why is it worrying that people can carry a weapon on their person? What fundamentally distinguishes the weapon a peace officer carries and the one a private citizen carries? Do you worry that somehow the private citizen is less adept at the use of the weapon? That they are somehow less responsible?justcallmeslow said:
If I ever go through a full body scanner, or get gate raped. I'll do so with a raging boner. Good times.
Keep in mind this is a Middle Eastern man who lives in Texas. I'd want protection also.justcallmeslow said:
That's hilarious. I mean it wouldn't have been if someone was hurt, but as it is, it's hilarious.
No, I shoot him, problem solved, or he leaves me alone when he finds out I'm armed. These people are cowards, they rarely if ever prey on those with the means to defend themselves. Besides, gun laws don't work anyway, but that's an argument for another thread.Csae said:
Ugh. See, It's been said many times by various groups that airport security is actually worthless, and this just seems to prove it.
The problem seems to be the security screening of passengers is mostly pretence. Smoke and mirrors designed to make people feel like something is being done about security.
But in reality, it's all quite worthless.
Or at least, that's the theory some people work with.
But unfortunately, incidents like this one seem to prove the point.
The problem seems to be the security screening of passengers is mostly pretence. Smoke and mirrors designed to make people feel like something is being done about security.
But in reality, it's all quite worthless.
Or at least, that's the theory some people work with.
But unfortunately, incidents like this one seem to prove the point.
There are over 85000 flights in the US per day. That just not possible to do as you would need about a half a million air marshals.Not G. Ivingname said:
OT: Well this isint surprising my dad manage to walk though airport security 3 times with a leather men in his cary-on. The TSA is just a joke
Bingo. 150 is the number of hours to get a PILOTING liscense. For an Aircraft. Something like 1,000 for concealed firearm. So, what the hell is up with that? 150 hours for a tube of metal filled with fuel, or 1000 for a hidden gun. Something doesn't make sense.bl4ckh4wk64 said:
He's actually REALLY lucky, if he was caught up front they might think he's a terrorist and arrest him, but since he was at his destination and didn't, you know, hijack that plane, it was clear he wasn'tPatrick Dare said:
I think the forumite saying this guy needs to be reprimanded for his action is out of line... Even if there is a chance he did this as a stunt, it's still a viable possibility that the guy realised he made an honest mistake in bringing the gun on the plane, and, like a lot of people are taught to do, tried to own up to his mistake by reporting the incident. (I do admit having nothing but the gun in there is fishy, but it doesn't invalidate the events as they happened)
He didn't bother to check to make sure something he reflexively carries with him wasn't on his person. A gun, despite its size, isn't fundamentally different from a wallet, cell phone, keychain, or other commonly carried accessory when it comes to being overlooked or forgotten.
And what about our security policies being "too considerate and inoffensive"? We're already potentially molesting children (And going against the anti-molestation education taught to kids:"Remember kiddies, don't let anyone touch you in certain areas or do something that makes you feel uncomfortable... Unless they are a TSA Agents"), sexually harrassing and abusing both men and women, and otherwise grossly violating people's rights and senses of decency. And to date, we have yet to find or thwart ANY terrorist threats through these means. How much further indignity is required before "Our methods are thorough enough."
Passengers, flight personnel, and rent-a-cop-style security is likely enough to stop these problems. Humans are a lot more intuitive than computers and scanners. Right now, passengers are the #1 threat detectors, because they aren't cluttered with "false alarms" to see when somethings fishy.
Proper proceedure: No fancy toys. No ludicrous, invasive regulations. If a passenger or Flight member notices someone behaving abnormally or threateningly, they either address the person directly or get the nearest "rent-a-cop" to settle the issue personally, amicably, and fairly. Genuine threats will be dealt with appropriately, while the Lawful Stupid insanity goes away. More results, less effort, fewer pissed of citizens.
He didn't bother to check to make sure something he reflexively carries with him wasn't on his person. A gun, despite its size, isn't fundamentally different from a wallet, cell phone, keychain, or other commonly carried accessory when it comes to being overlooked or forgotten.
And what about our security policies being "too considerate and inoffensive"? We're already potentially molesting children (And going against the anti-molestation education taught to kids:"Remember kiddies, don't let anyone touch you in certain areas or do something that makes you feel uncomfortable... Unless they are a TSA Agents"), sexually harrassing and abusing both men and women, and otherwise grossly violating people's rights and senses of decency. And to date, we have yet to find or thwart ANY terrorist threats through these means. How much further indignity is required before "Our methods are thorough enough."
Passengers, flight personnel, and rent-a-cop-style security is likely enough to stop these problems. Humans are a lot more intuitive than computers and scanners. Right now, passengers are the #1 threat detectors, because they aren't cluttered with "false alarms" to see when somethings fishy.
Proper proceedure: No fancy toys. No ludicrous, invasive regulations. If a passenger or Flight member notices someone behaving abnormally or threateningly, they either address the person directly or get the nearest "rent-a-cop" to settle the issue personally, amicably, and fairly. Genuine threats will be dealt with appropriately, while the Lawful Stupid insanity goes away. More results, less effort, fewer pissed of citizens.
