Mass Effect 3 Fans Will Find Closure June 26th
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Game is good but ending does not have the same high standard and this DLC will probably not solve that much except the lack of rage since about a month after launch... And I listened to their promo vid or what ever it might have been...
They might have listened to the players but I don't think they actually understood anything because they sounded like a bad politicians defending a stupid decision...
But really no one cares it was a magnificent series with a terrible choice of ending, and therefore many will forget most about ME.
They might have listened to the players but I don't think they actually understood anything because they sounded like a bad politicians defending a stupid decision...
But really no one cares it was a magnificent series with a terrible choice of ending, and therefore many will forget most about ME.
Well Casey Hudson stated that he wants an ending that everyone will talk about, well he got his wish but in doing so tarnished Bioware's reputation.XDravond said:
it has nothing to do with the way we want it to end. we are pissed off that our choices have been utterly ignored and that all 3 choices are the same. especially this fucking kid who talks utter bullshit and that shepard just buys his crap wihtout any choices of asking any questions or to tell him to fuck off.Ecliptica Wolf said:
I just want to know one thing (it has probably been said before but bear with me), will I still be able to see the original endings? I'm currently playing ME2 and I won't be able to beat ME3 in time before this new expansion comes out, so do I just hold off on downloading it or something? Can someone please help me on what to do?
Hold up
They are still going with the glowey kid supersedes the idea of what the reapers are with a crappy explanation in the last 20 minutes of the game.
If it actually does a little conclusion as to what happens to the rest of the crew, like tali gets a house on the planet, wrex becomes a father, garrus finds some supportive hips and there is a funeral for lizard man then it would be somewhat better.
Still I'm getting that mod that goes from that last scene with illusive man to reapers destroyed end and cutting out the cosmic kid altogether if i can and that's only if I get around to buying the game.
They are still going with the glowey kid supersedes the idea of what the reapers are with a crappy explanation in the last 20 minutes of the game.
If it actually does a little conclusion as to what happens to the rest of the crew, like tali gets a house on the planet, wrex becomes a father, garrus finds some supportive hips and there is a funeral for lizard man then it would be somewhat better.
Still I'm getting that mod that goes from that last scene with illusive man to reapers destroyed end and cutting out the cosmic kid altogether if i can and that's only if I get around to buying the game.
Too lazy to look for it, but there was a dev post saying that the DLC would include a patch that would make it so you wouldn't have to grind MP to get the "best" ending.....kinda like they were supposed to in the beginningMax_imus said:
All they did was delay the inevitable because people wanted a change, they apparently aren't delivering that, so I imagine it's not going to satisfy anyone.
That said, I am increasingly unlikely to support the Mass Effect franchise in the future, and between what we've seen here and what happened with both TOR and DA2 my confidence in Bioware is greatly shaken, especially seeing as DA3 doesn't seem to be actually learning from the mistakes of DA2 and going back to the DA1 format.
We'll see what happens, but this was their big chance to win back my confidence, and by sticking to their guns here it doesn't seem likely to happen. Simply put the endings are garbage, and elaborating on garbage still makes it garbage. As I've said before, they aren't as bad as some other people have let on, but they still do not fit with the series, and it still comes down to a massive sacrifice of their integrity for franchise potential, followed by the crazy claim that sticking with these terribad endings is somehow retaining artistic integrity despite their own interviews and comments on the subject.
That said, time will tell, if this goes like I expect, perhaps there is enough energy left in the ME3 movement to go after Bioware/EA even harder. Truthfully I think winning here is good for the industry and gamers.
That said, I am increasingly unlikely to support the Mass Effect franchise in the future, and between what we've seen here and what happened with both TOR and DA2 my confidence in Bioware is greatly shaken, especially seeing as DA3 doesn't seem to be actually learning from the mistakes of DA2 and going back to the DA1 format.
We'll see what happens, but this was their big chance to win back my confidence, and by sticking to their guns here it doesn't seem likely to happen. Simply put the endings are garbage, and elaborating on garbage still makes it garbage. As I've said before, they aren't as bad as some other people have let on, but they still do not fit with the series, and it still comes down to a massive sacrifice of their integrity for franchise potential, followed by the crazy claim that sticking with these terribad endings is somehow retaining artistic integrity despite their own interviews and comments on the subject.
That said, time will tell, if this goes like I expect, perhaps there is enough energy left in the ME3 movement to go after Bioware/EA even harder. Truthfully I think winning here is good for the industry and gamers.
My point is, Joker is loyal and if Hackett says "go to the rendezvous." Joker would attempt to rescue Shepard or at least object to leaving him/her behind (more than just a couple of lines of dialog) unless Shepard told him to leave.Elamdri said:
I have said in every post that I'm holding off my final judgement until the DLC comes out, but as of what we know for the character of Joker it isn't looking good whether you liked the ending or not.
As much as I appreciate BioWare's attempt to right a wrong I don't think the EC will resolve all the issues that the endings created. I hate to render judgement against something I have yet to observe but this just seems like a band aid on a bullet wound.
In reality this Extended Cut DLC is just addressing the symptoms of a greater problem, the endings themselves. I think in order to completely correct the problem they would need to fundamentally change all the endings for a number of different reasons, (many people have discussed what is actually wrong with the endings and have done so to great lengths and produced very insightful work).
Being a HUGE fan of the Mass Effect franchise I thought that although ME3 was successful in certain areas it failed to live up to most of the hype, developers statements, PR bravado, and fan expectations among other things.
I have researched this topic extensively and the two biggest questions I asked myself is how did this happen and why? What led one of my favorite developers to produce such a (for lack of better words), piece of crap?
The answers?
Well the how is some what easy,
-Pressure to meet pre-established deadlines
-Pressure from EA
-Lack of resources (time, money, man-power, etc...)
-Poor planning
-Sloppy writing
Why?
-An incompetent Executive Producer and Lead Writer
To be quite honest upon further reflection I am astounded that this even happened in the first place. I always thought Mr. Hudson was a rather intelligent person. I very much enjoyed watching and listening to him speak. He is such an eloquent, thoughtful and insightful person among other things. Much to my surprise it was partially his input that caused ME3's fall from grace in my eyes.
In reality this Extended Cut DLC is just addressing the symptoms of a greater problem, the endings themselves. I think in order to completely correct the problem they would need to fundamentally change all the endings for a number of different reasons, (many people have discussed what is actually wrong with the endings and have done so to great lengths and produced very insightful work).
Being a HUGE fan of the Mass Effect franchise I thought that although ME3 was successful in certain areas it failed to live up to most of the hype, developers statements, PR bravado, and fan expectations among other things.
I have researched this topic extensively and the two biggest questions I asked myself is how did this happen and why? What led one of my favorite developers to produce such a (for lack of better words), piece of crap?
The answers?
Well the how is some what easy,
-Pressure to meet pre-established deadlines
-Pressure from EA
-Lack of resources (time, money, man-power, etc...)
-Poor planning
-Sloppy writing
Why?
-An incompetent Executive Producer and Lead Writer
To be quite honest upon further reflection I am astounded that this even happened in the first place. I always thought Mr. Hudson was a rather intelligent person. I very much enjoyed watching and listening to him speak. He is such an eloquent, thoughtful and insightful person among other things. Much to my surprise it was partially his input that caused ME3's fall from grace in my eyes.
No.
This video makes a pretty good case. What I wanted was not more of the shitty nonsensical and destructive ending that we got. I want actual endings. New endings.
For one I seem to specifically recall that one of the endings would be that the reapers would win. Where was that? We have an ending that presumably destroys everything in the galaxy, but that just means everybody loses. We don't have a 'reapers win - up to whatever races come next' ending. Not to mention things start getting stupid from the end dash onwards.
For one it's possible to put yourself into a position where Harbinger's 'beam' actually clips through the structure and hits you anyway. Even ignoring a direct hit from that thing should have just vaporised Shepard outright. Then everything else afterwards that has been discussed already.
The ending was terrible. I don't want them adding new shit that explains the previous shit. I want them to remove the shit and replace it with something respectable.
This video makes a pretty good case. What I wanted was not more of the shitty nonsensical and destructive ending that we got. I want actual endings. New endings.
For one I seem to specifically recall that one of the endings would be that the reapers would win. Where was that? We have an ending that presumably destroys everything in the galaxy, but that just means everybody loses. We don't have a 'reapers win - up to whatever races come next' ending. Not to mention things start getting stupid from the end dash onwards.
For one it's possible to put yourself into a position where Harbinger's 'beam' actually clips through the structure and hits you anyway. Even ignoring a direct hit from that thing should have just vaporised Shepard outright. Then everything else afterwards that has been discussed already.
The ending was terrible. I don't want them adding new shit that explains the previous shit. I want them to remove the shit and replace it with something respectable.
Sometimes it pays off being Microsoft's whipping boy.wooty said:
Thank you, my masters.
OT: Will definitely get this. I don't want this series to end
Even though I'm trying to ignore that the endings happened