Yea, I remember when WoW dev was hoping just to get 1 million sub. At that time, it seem pretty off from reach to them.metroidgearsolid said:i remember when there was a time when major I.Ps could only dream of selling 1.5 million in 5 days. alas times have changed
Medal of Honor Sales Are Not Amazing
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I really like it, but I'm not going to buy it at the current price. I think sales will pick up as the price lowers.
The funny thing is the guys who made MoH: AA were actually the guys who went on to make the first CoD... Infinity Ward. They didn't have their official name yet but the core group was there, kind of how Respawn Entertainment is the new un-official IW... they may not have the name but the talent of the original group remains. Thats why there are so many similarities between Allied Assault and CoD.Proverbial Jon said:
Afghanistan is technically not Middle East.BiggityB05 said:
And to my knowledge there hasn't been a game set there until now.
Like ArmA and ArmA 2?BiggityB05 said:
Like Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis, or even Black Ops to some extent?BiggityB05 said:
Like Battlefield 2? Or Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising?BiggityB05 said:
Like Turning Point: Fall of Liberty?BiggityB05 said:
Everything has been done already.BiggityB05 said:
EA was HOPING controversy would sell this game.
What they didnt expect was that gamers who played the demo would just spread how bad of a Modern Warfare 2 clone it is; and it is a shameless clone.
While gamers dont mind buying games that are similar; we dont want to buy the same game twice. Expecially if that same game is WORSE then what its copying.
If they wanted it to be successful, they should have made the multiplayer less of a grind. Period. Theres a FINE line between working for a weapon, and grinding your ass off
What they didnt expect was that gamers who played the demo would just spread how bad of a Modern Warfare 2 clone it is; and it is a shameless clone.
While gamers dont mind buying games that are similar; we dont want to buy the same game twice. Expecially if that same game is WORSE then what its copying.
If they wanted it to be successful, they should have made the multiplayer less of a grind. Period. Theres a FINE line between working for a weapon, and grinding your ass off
I wasn't refering to MW2 specifically, but modern in general. But even so, theres multifarious amounts of reasons as to why MW2 made the money it did, and it is now seen as THE modern shooter.jdun said:
Trying to dethrone it by making a game in the same period of time gamewise (modern) and ALSO making it pretty bloody similar will NEVER beat it, because they already have MW2 for that.
If you had copied MW2 gameplay wise, but set it in WW2 like the original franchise did, then at least it would be unique by todays standards of an oversaturated Modern Combat game market
/threadVanBasten said:
FINALLY now we can stop making generic realistic first person shooters and actually innovate.
It would be cool ... if the game wasn't released with 8 maps and 4 multiplayer game modes.slutmonkey8 said:
In comparison MW2 had 16 maps, and 8 game modes(and another 11 derivative modes).
Basically, they released half a game, and now they're pretending to give out stuff for free.
Personally, I'd say that's not cool, in fact I'd say that's bullshit, to put it mildly.
I kinda saw this coming after the beta. One major issue many first person shooters fail to capture when trying to dethrone Call of Duty is they don't capture the full 60 frames per second they do which gives the game the fast pace many love about the game, or at least in my personal circle of friends. Also what drove me personnally from it was no hardcore mode in the multiplayer that got pretty popular from Call of Duty, and even DICE's own BF2 though they could have added it once the game was released I am not familiar with the release. The last thing that drove my crazy about the game was vehicle combat in the multiplayer it took awhile to kill the stupid thing so you needed a couple people working on it to take it down timely, and it's the exact reason I quite playing BF2 I got tired of either get sniped after taking 2 steps, or getting blown up by a vehicle that's cannon had Superior range to my rockets.
The trouble with EA is that it's originality is starting to stagnate a bit. It seems to be releasing cookie-cutter games, if you'll pardon the expression.
What it needs is distance away from Activision. To be seen as an alternative here's some ways they should be able to accomplish this.
Public Relations + Marketing: EA has a huge headstart on Activision here. Bobby Kotick at Activision is seen as a money grubbing devil at best - so perhaps cutting the price of their games by £5 / £10 would be great for pissing the guy off and enticing the cash strapped to buy.
Game making - A little more innovation is needed, not follow-the-leader. Games like Mass Effect are a great start, or a remake of the Amiga game Walker. Which was a far more brutal version of Mechwarrior of it's day. Or space shooters - but learning to stay away from the over-saturated Space Marine theme.
Indie-nurturing and Licensing - Nuture indie-developers, with AAA games in a decline, the indie and up-and-coming developers are looking to clean up. It may also be worth a merger with 505 Games because they seem to be coming out with some interesting ideas for games.
Downloadable Content: Make it free or cheaper - this will make buying the game a little more tempting. Especially when someone's on a budget.
That's all I can think of right now.
What it needs is distance away from Activision. To be seen as an alternative here's some ways they should be able to accomplish this.
Public Relations + Marketing: EA has a huge headstart on Activision here. Bobby Kotick at Activision is seen as a money grubbing devil at best - so perhaps cutting the price of their games by £5 / £10 would be great for pissing the guy off and enticing the cash strapped to buy.
Game making - A little more innovation is needed, not follow-the-leader. Games like Mass Effect are a great start, or a remake of the Amiga game Walker. Which was a far more brutal version of Mechwarrior of it's day. Or space shooters - but learning to stay away from the over-saturated Space Marine theme.
Indie-nurturing and Licensing - Nuture indie-developers, with AAA games in a decline, the indie and up-and-coming developers are looking to clean up. It may also be worth a merger with 505 Games because they seem to be coming out with some interesting ideas for games.
Downloadable Content: Make it free or cheaper - this will make buying the game a little more tempting. Especially when someone's on a budget.
That's all I can think of right now.
I mean, the sad part to this story is how originally a decade ago MoH *was* the definitive war/military FPS game series until it started crapping out and CoD came and did a few good thingsAC10 said:
kinda late to the modernized military setting really