Ya pretty much.Brian Tams said:As if I needed another reason not to go see this movie.
Criticism =/= Hatred
*thinking*
"Hater" is yet another word that humanity should lose the privilege of using.
Wild success is not a fantastic reason to ignore criticism. It really depends what it is, and if you're known for being repetitive or shit at something, then it may drag you down to nothing in future. Either becoming stale or having your negatives outweigh everything else and become forgotten. Hell, we know a great artist is one that tries to improve, but I guess they're not really artists.Pyrian said:Wild success is a fantastic reason to ignore haters and double down on pleasing existing fans. You don't make money by not having anybody dislike your work, you make money by having enough people like it, and if you've got that, the rest don't really matter so much.Nazulu said:...but it was never a fucking excuse to ignore criticism.
But pissing off your fans by pandering to people who don't like your work in the first place, is a great way to lose your existing audience without gaining a new one.
You summarized today's Hollywood.AstaresPanda said:Lets see, she's a *****. But thats just what ppl class as a good movie now. If it makes loads of money its a great movie even thou its a steaming pile of shit they still had to pay to see it so that price = a happy movie viewer. Not like i could have walked out of transformers 2 and demand my fucking money back. Id get told to fuck off.
You have an argument based on denying basic facts (like Michael Bay Transformers movies still making bank), and you accuse me of not having any basis for my claims. Face it: if fans of M.B.T.'s walk into M.B.T.5 and it's Bumblebee Driving Miss Daisy, they are NOT going to be happy.Nazulu said:...if you're known for being repetitive or shit at something, then it may drag you down to nothing in future. ... And your last sentence isn't based on anything.Pyrian said:Wild success is a fantastic reason to ignore haters and double down on pleasing existing fans. You don't make money by not having anybody dislike your work, you make money by having enough people like it, and if you've got that, the rest don't really matter so much.Nazulu said:...but it was never a fucking excuse to ignore criticism.
But pissing off your fans by pandering to people who don't like your work in the first place, is a great way to lose your existing audience without gaining a new one.
Ignoring haters is not the same thing as not trying to improve. There's a difference between striving to do better, and abandoning what made you successful in the first place. The reality is that most criticism of wildly successful franchises fits firmly into the latter category, and not only can but must be ignored if the franchise is going to continue to be successful.Nazulu said:Hell, we know a great artist is one that tries to improve, but I guess they're not really artists.
Eh, he had to agree to work with her as well. Looks like they've set aside their differences to make money out of crap movies.The Feast said:Huh, weird. She says f u to the people who hate the new TMNT movie and yet, she call Michael Bay "Hitler" even though he is also involve in making the movie. Sounds like a b****h after getting paid more, even though she has been 'abused' by the same person who puts her to fame, in some way.
Well...maybe she really said f*ck. Not sure how to pronounce that, though.PrinceOfShapeir said:Can we all please stop with spelling curses with stars in it? This is the internet, everyone knows what you're saying, and there aren't any filters here. And it makes you look frankly childish and unprofessional. She said fuck, not f*ck.
You pronounce it Eff-stark.thaluikhain said:Eh, he had to agree to work with her as well. Looks like they've set aside their differences to make money out of crap movies.The Feast said:Huh, weird. She says f u to the people who hate the new TMNT movie and yet, she call Michael Bay "Hitler" even though he is also involve in making the movie. Sounds like a b****h after getting paid more, even though she has been 'abused' by the same person who puts her to fame, in some way.
See? Capitalism really does work.
Well...maybe she really said f*ck. Not sure how to pronounce that, though.PrinceOfShapeir said:Can we all please stop with spelling curses with stars in it? This is the internet, everyone knows what you're saying, and there aren't any filters here. And it makes you look frankly childish and unprofessional. She said fuck, not f*ck.
Fuh-stark? I like it. EDIT: Better than Eff-stark, which should probably just be F-bomb at that point.thaluikhain said:Well...maybe she really said f*ck. Not sure how to pronounce that, though.