Microsoft Addresses Xbox One Concerns

[MercurySteam]

Well damnit, I was afraid of this. At least at this point they can't screw up the 360 to this degree (if they do then so help me God, I will throw my Xbox off a cliff). I liked my 360 because I could take it away with me me and could play my games with out a connection as I could never be bothered to get fully into portable gaming or buy a laptop.

I'm drafting up my next custom PC build for this gen. If anyone needs help then feel free to ask. I can imagine plenty of people making a permanent shift to PC gaming after all this.

 

[Kmadden2004]

And now, ladies and gentlemen, we observe what happens when you try to use gasoline to extinguish a chip-pan fire...

 

[Weaver]

AC10 confirms that he will not be buying an Xbox One console.

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

Hey Sony? You're looking a lot more attractive now. Don't do anything stupid and you might get a bigger share of the market.

Hey Nintendo? For the love of god, get some games!

[sub][sub]Yup, skipping this gen. Never going to buy an Xbox ever now. My internet is terribly unreliable and when I move in a few months I may have to do without it entirely.[/sub][/sub]

 

[hentropy]

The only reason why games were the way they were since the inception, you own the cartridge for ever and ever with no strings attached, was because there was no way to do it. Ubiquitous Internet is still a fairly new thing, even if most people had it through the last two console generations in the US, so such schemes were more or less impossible.

But they've been doing this with software for a very long time... anyone who's ever bough business software knows you're not paying for the plastic disc, that's silly, you're paying for the license, and you have to have some kind of activation scheme (in the 90s it was usually by phones, and businesses paid for bulk keys). Games on PCs have always come with some sort of key you had to enter. The difference is now that damn near everyone has Internet, so they can do this "phone home" thing to cut down on piracy... but there's bound to be serious problems with it, as there normally is whenever anyone does the "always on" or "phone home once a day" thing.

Ultimately though you are buying software, and games are just using the standards that other forms of software have always been using. So what's the moral of the story? Just buy a fraking PC. Or even a Mac, I hear those can play a few games now as well.

 

[Little Gray]

"Every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection," you mean to say "Every Xbox One owner WILL HAVE TO HAVE a broadband connection,". What ever happened to the good old days when you brought something, it was yours, forever, to use when you want, how you want. GAMES /= SERVICE "

Steam happened. They started the trend of stopping used games and turning them into a service instead.

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

Is there any way MS doesn't become the clear target for Anonymous and every other hacker collective on the planet? I know that's where I'd be focusing my hacking efforts were I such a person. Trying to erode ownership concepts in favor of billion dollar corporations? Nah, let's just brick every Xbone in the world by repeatedly crashing MS servers.

 

[Little Gray]

"Every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection," you mean to say "Every Xbox One owner WILL HAVE TO HAVE a broadband connection,". What ever happened to the good old days when you brought something, it was yours, forever, to use when you want, how you want. GAMES /= SERVICE "

Steam happened. They started the trend of stopping used games and turning them into a service instead.

GOG happened with no DRM at all.

and consoles =/= PCs

And? GOG is mostly 10+ year old games that never had drm on them in the first place.

If developers see something that works on the pc they will try it on the console and vise versa.

 

[Smiley Face]

You know what, personally, I can live with this.

I know plenty of people won't be, and they definitely have good reasons for that, but my guess is that most of the problems that people will have with it won't affect me personally.

I know it might sound rather arrogant to say that, but I don't mean it to be, honestly.

Now all I personally need to know is what kind of games are coming out for it.

It is not arrogant, it is just the kind of attitude MS is counting on. People that don't care if their right as consumers go backwards because they are not too much inconvenienced.

Or people that will subject to inconvenience if the games are good.

That's fair, I guess, but somewhat sad at the same time.

I concur, which is why, despite my preference for the Xbox controller and long history with the 360, it's increasingly likely that I'm not going to go anywhere near the Xbone. Sure, I don't lend games to friends more than once. Sure, I buy most of my games new. Sure, I'm usually online. Sure, I don't present any info to the kinect that I'm concerned about. But it's possible that I might get cut off from the internet for some reason, that once cloud support is discontinued, games might cease to work, that Microsoft might introduce some new and exciting bullshit. And to reward them as a company for doing this just encourages it from them and others in the future, and it's ridiculous.

All I see are negatives that probably won't affect me, but I don't see ANY positives. At all. Add to that Sony's superior track record with exclusives, and the fact that the Kinect is going to make the Xbone more Xpensive than the PS4, and unless E3 changes my mind, farewell Microsoft.

 

[Snotnarok]

You'd think they'd backpeddle on some of the flipping out on the net but instead they just confirmed how shit it's going to be. BUT since CoD is an exclusive on this for the consoles it will be bought by a bunch of caving goons.

 

[ritchards]

"As for additional personal data, "you can play games or enjoy applications that use data, such as videos, photos, facial expressions, heart rate and more, but this data will not leave your Xbox One without your explicit permission.""

Allow me to complete that sentence:

"which you gave when you brought an Xbone."

 

[Beautiful End]

Well, I'm not a big fan of Microsoft to begin with. I do have an Xbox mostly to play CoD and Gears with my friends, Minecraft and L4D. So if I was to buy a next gen console, which I'm still undecided about, I'd go with the PS4. This whole thing only makes my decision easier.

I understand that some people might not have a problem with all of those conditions, but for someone like me, it is impossible to get one. I don't play every day anymore, I don't always play online, I don't care much about the Kinect, my internet is unreliable and I mostly buy used games and sell and trade them.

Ever since this last gen of consoles, I began complaining about how my current console is turning into everything but a gaming console. I still long for the days where all I had to do was pop in the cartridge and play. and now its getting worse. I know its just the gaming market trying to keep up with the current technology but still...

Am I getting old...? Oh, glob...

 

[RoBi3.0]

And so the actual price of the Xbox will not be what they will announce You'll have to add the extra 50-60$ to have xbox live. Cause otherwise the system will not play any games.

If Live becomes free then that's another thing.

Xbox live gold gives the the ability to play online games and watch steaming TV services. Nothing more with a Xbox live silver (free) membership you can still access Microsoft servers to buy games and movies. I see no reason to assume that this will not continue to be the case. In other word you will not need gold to keep your Xbox from bricking after 24 hours.

 

[Gray Firion]

The. Sheer. Arrogance. Is. Staggering...

Licensing games? No. Buying and Selling games. I don't license games from Game. I don't licence games from Steam or GOG. I BUY them. Money is exchanged for specific goods. Bought on Steam, I can download them and keep them installed in my computer. If the connection fails, I can still play the games I installed, since they are products that I own. The current Xbox Live Service? THAT is licensed. It's a service that "needs" to be paid in order to work.

And Friends are only able to share a game ONCE?! What if my friends, who for the sake of argument made the spectacularly bad decision of buying a Xbone in the future, want to lend a game to more than 1 friend? They just can't? They BOUGHT it! They should be able to lend it to however many people as they please!

What, did something happen during the last 2 or so years to change the way the Buyer/consumer relationship, established well over 10000 years ago? GEEZ!

/breathe out

'Kay. I'll start warning every X360 owner I know about what they'll be in for if they buy an Xbone. They're friends, I cherish my friends. Even for those that aren't friendships, I see no reason why not to warn them anyway.

 

[KoudelkaMorgan]

The rumors are true: you must connect once a day in order to play your games. That you bought. What about gamers without that capability? They don't exist. "Every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection," Major Nelson writes, and because of this, "developers can create massive, persistent worlds that evolve even when you're not playing."

Lolwut? Can someone explain this retarded reasoning to me? His rationale doesn't even address the premise. It's like he said "Bears are big so that the ocean can be wet". Developers creating massive persistent worlds has nothing to do with every console owner having a broadband connection [that is required to be working or used every day to check in with Microsoft]. I added that last part because he must have obviously meant it, otherwise he's a dishonest piece of shit trying to minimize the onerous requirement for their console. Anyway, you know what massive persistent world only requires an internet connection when the person wants to play in that persistent world and doesn't give a damn if the person has an internet connection at any other time? Every MMO ever!

I was never going to buy an Xbone, but that statment does make me want to see a T-Shirt with "Bears are so big so that the ocean can be wet." on it. That could be a thing, people would probably buy that.

Unlike the XBone.