Microsoft Addresses Xbox One Concerns

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Well this won't be an issue for a year or two but I'm glad that the tournament standard for the next generation of fighting games has likely just been decided. There is no way in hell to run a tournament where ever bleeding console needs to check in every single day over a 3-4 day period in a hotel or convention center. It just isn't happening.

captcha: i'm sorry

Well I'm sorry too Xbone.
 

Ed130 The Vanguard

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Hey Microsoft, EA called! They want their stupid back!

Seriously the sheer amount of anti-consumer BS they've announced is staggering.
 

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I want to buy this console, then I want to smash it to bits, put those bits in a box, shit in said box, then mail it to Microsoft's offices.

While I appreciate somebody finally coming forward and saying something, (shows that there are at least a few people with some semblance of a spine over there) the confirmation of all the rumors has only increased my rage. I would rather burn the money I'd have used to buy the console than encourage these business practices.

The summary of my current feeling towards Microsoft's gaming division is as follows:

 

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I laugh at this "announcement." It only gets worse.

"Oh hey, I'm sorry we were vague about our really bad policies, let us iterate that our policies are indeed terrible."
Let's break this down.

1. The big problem with ALL of the wording is "Publishers may." In both occurrences of the Used Games issue, they cleverly hide in the wording that "Publishers can turn off the used/turn in/transfer game functions." However, this wording is not exactly correct; "Publishers can choose when you can turn in a used game to a retailer, or give to your friend." If they don't like Used Games, they can turn that stuff off. So, any Electronic Arts games...get ready for 1 copy to 1 console.

2. A game can only be gifted to a friend once. This means that if you want to let them borrow it for a week, you also have to give them your gamer profile for a week. Otherwise, they get it permanently. They can trade it into GameStop afterwards, but no lending of games for a small period of time.

3. "participating retailers" is vague, and everyone KNOWS it means that GameStop and GAME stores will be your only two choices, maybe one other in countries without those two...but you'll be looking at one choice to turn in your used games. So, if they want to give you $5 for that latest CoD:Dogs that came out two weeks ago...that's about all you can get for it.

4. ...and with their mention that "you must connect every 24 hours to Xbox Live to play the console." every Armed Forces will now purchase a PS4.
 

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Sarah LeBoeuf" post="7.409900.17153860 said:
"With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library."

With Xbox 360, I can game offline as long as I fucking want. This is not an improvement.

Sarah LeBoeuf" post="7.409900.17153860 said:
"Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies."

I can watch live TV and enjoy movies now. I don't need a game console to watch TV or movies. I've never needed a game console to watch TV or movies. I need a game console to play games.

Sarah LeBoeuf" post="7.409900.17153860 said:
"Every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection," Major Nelson writes, and because of this, "developers can create massive, persistent worlds that evolve even when you're not playing."

I don't give a shit about massive persistent worlds that evolve when I'm not playing. I can't imagine why I would. How the hell is this a selling point, anyway? "Stuff's happening when you're not around to see it! Radical, huh?"

Sarah LeBoeuf" post="7.409900.17153860 said:
Finally, you can breathe easy knowing that the new Kinect will not be spying on you, as long as you don't want it to.

Well, that's generous of them. I'd breathe even easier if I didn't need the Kinect at all, though. As it stands, it won't be spying on me because I'll never have it in my house.
 

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I was trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. And I could hook up to the internet once every 24 hours. But I don't want to be forced to. I also don't want a bloody camera looking at me.. At this time, I will not buy this machine. I reserve the right to change my mind.. but this is a big.. "We will control how you game" COme on someone with deep pockets, create a console that plays GAMES!
 
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DVS BSTrD said:
Because there are no such things as blackouts ~_~
Actually, there aren't for a few of us.

I live in a complex that has it's own power system. Since 2008, there have been no less than six times that the area around me has had a major power outage. Like we're talking weeks.

And I sat here nice and toasty with my lights on and everything. My steam didn't work because I didn't learn about offline mode until after the first time.

But I could always rely on my Xbox. Pop in Oblivion, practice my skills in guilty gear or tekken... All gone.

I salute you, Microsoft. You decided to go down with the ship in massive fashion. We shall light a bonfire in the memory of what you once were.
 

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Sounds like Xbone buyers are getting the retarded half cousin of steam, but hey at least you guys will still be able to watch tv, and blueray video.
 

elilupe

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This reminds me of a certain lyric from a song by the great Eef Barzelay, "I can't take comfort in the fact that it could be worse."
 

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Why are preowned/used/borrowed games such a freaking sin!?

I used to enjoy the knowledge that I could experiment with a video game I was hesitant about, and if it was shit I could return it (Medal of Honour Warfighter for example. Yes I returned it).

That's the 'real' reason for this 'always online' crap. They want to monitor you and make sure you're not preowning anyone else's games! It's ridiculous!

Preowned games aren't that bad a thing. It's like McDonalds saying 'We're making money, which is good. But we could be making more than this so lets start charging customers who want to take a straw or napkin from now on'.


Xbox One, you suck and I hate you and for the love of god if you don't fix this 'always online', 'no preowned games' crap before the release then you're going to be in a world of sadness when Bill finds out the sales of your next gen console sucked harder than a vacuum cleaner.
 

darksakul

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So let me translate all that into English for the rest of us

Microsoft Addresses Xbox One Concerns
English - Microsoft tells you to shut up and it will tell you how its going to be, now give us your moneys.

Every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection, you mean
English - Every Xbox One owner WILL HAVE TO HAVE a [high end] broadband connection.

Game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers." It's up to third-party publishers to make the call
English - that Game Publishers can use their abusive DRM policies now on Console game titles.

developers can create massive, persistent worlds that evolve even when you're not playing
English - MMORPG

Privacy options control what your Kinect sees and hears, and if you don't want it on, just say "Xbox off."
English - The Kinect is on 24/7, your privacy means nothing because you got to say "Xbox ON" via the Kinect to turn it back on. Meaning you got to unplug the Xbox One so it will be actually OFF.

but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies.
English - Microsoft has no idea what a TV actually does.

Sony I hope you are taking notes.
 

John Dore

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I have been a F"n loyal fan...since Xbox launched... I grabbed one on day one and loved it.... with all of this... go f#CK yourself M$.... it feels like my wife cheated on me.....no loyalty to those who were loyal to you.... and just like when my wife cheated I will go out and "bang" the hot new thing on the market....lol... I hate you so much because I love you....
 

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LetalisK said:
mrm5561 said:
its sad im playing my 360 now and wondering how things could have gone so wrong. also has ms mentioned in online play will still cost 60$ or is it free because if they are still charging us then they really are evil and stupid
Yep, paying for Xbox Live to play multiplayer will still be a thing.
So we have to pay 60 dollars to play online on an always online console. ?.. I dont want to live on this planet anymore
 

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I once said it would have have the greatest games to make me buy one, but I couldn't either way (Plus I'm sure those games will come to PC eventually anyway). I really can't support this no matter what, mainly because I'm forced to look up on whats good and whats shit all the time, it really sickens me. I can't 'breathe easy' knowing that the option even exists for spying on us. The whole thing is fucking ridiculous. Are we paying for that crap as well?
 

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

All those 'Games are evil and make people do violent acts' people are wrong. It's Microsoft that has for the first time in my life seriously made me consider how to get away with murder in the case of whoever pitched the fucking idea for the Xbone.
 

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The more I see from these twats the more they seem like a once brilliant but aging relative who has reached the stage of senility where they've started to wear their underpants on the outside of their clothing, and believe the garden gnomes are stealing their spoons.
 

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porous_shield said:
So we have access to our games until Microsoft turns off the servers some day and then the thing becomes a glorified media player and the games you bough vanish into the ether. I don't understand why anyone would buy this.
The only people who will buy this in their right mind will be those who are uninformed about its "features." I don't know about you, but I'm wondering what the reaction is gonna be when the Xbox One comes out.
Easton Dark said:
Microsoft, you bank hard on customer loyalty.
I believe the correct word is "ignorance."
 

Draconalis

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Oh Gods... I didn't even THINK about this...

You may be right, Microsoft... every X-bone owner WILL have broadband... but the frequent monopolies and limited choices of broadband providers often means a shitty connection even in a major city...

I dare not think about rural communities.

Granted this was never an issue for me, since I never had even an inkling of desire for the damned thing... I just came to watch the train wreck...

On a side note... thank the gods I no longer have Comcast... sure I only get 15 megs as opposed to 25... but it's a consistent 15 rather than the sporadic 25...

Did I mention I live in Houston? You know... a major city?