Microsoft Doesn't Want Sony's Sloppy Seconds

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Miggiwoo

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And Microsoft continues it's strategy of attempting to muscle developers. Microsoft is steadily losing market share to the PS3 (I'm a recent convert myself). While I think the access fee for XBL is so trivial as to be a non-event, I find PS3 to be a much better multimedia device, with better exclusives.

Most of console exclusive IP is tapped out. Games like Halo, GOW, and Fable are increasingly falling into the 'been done before' pile, similarly with PS3 exclusives which have concluded a few major exclusive IP's in the past few years. That means the console war will move into new territory, I think mostly revolving around console performance, supplementary utility and nostalgia factors. This is why there is an increasing number of 'classics' on the PSN, and an increased focus on the integration of social networking and streaming media.

The simple answer is this. Microsoft do not have the market power to force developers to a particular release pattern. In the long term this sort of strategy will be damaging to Microsoft customers, ergo Microsoft itself. Not to mention the negative brand impact that this sort of statement makes.

All of this being said, Microsoft is (contrary to popular opinion) not run by idiots. There will be some kind of valid empirical grounding in this sort of positioning decision, there is undoubtedly some kind of surplus to be captured here.
 

Denamic

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Basically, Sony is incompetent, Nintendo cover their ears and go "lalala", and MS are just dicks.
Glad we've got that cleared up.
 

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Baldr said:
Actually I like this policy and hope that Sony and Nintendo take it too. It is kinda bogus that some games get special content and features on some consoles and other don't and that practice has to stop. No matter what your console, you should have have the same sort of content for a third party game.
That's not always possible. And if we're talking about consoles, then you're losing quality and money. Would you rather have a shitty game released on all platforms, or a beautifully made or even average game on one or two platforms? Extra content or exclusivity is what makes the companies more money and able to keep up.

Based on what you're implying, the argument can be made that the Xperia Play's rendition of Minecraft should be up to par with the PC or Xbox 360 versions. And what about FortressCraft and Total Miner: Forge, those shitty Minecraft rip-offs on the 360? Those aren't on PC, or PS3. Some consoles just can't pull off certain games because of their graphics or control methods. I couldn't picture a game like Demon's Souls on PC, and I couldn't picture a game like WoW on a console.

And having the same sort of content may be tricky too. As was originally brought up, Kratos was in the PS3 version because anyone who only owned an Xbox 360 may not know who that is. Could you think of an interesting character who's on an Xbox 360 exclusive or even someone who'd fit into MK's gory 2D fighting?
 

Zenn3k

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Doesn't bother me, there isn't a single Sony exclusive I'm interested in playing.
 

gphjr14

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So if you can't give a developer enough money for exclusive developer and DLC privileges you don't want it at all (except MK) wow how childish can you be.
 

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Ren3004 said:
Yes, next time there's a PS3 exclusive I want to play, I'm sure thinking about your policy will make me feel loads better. By the way, as a consumer what I want is to play good games. I don't care if they came out on other consoles first, or if they had one more little thing. And in case Microsoft hasn't noticed, this means that the PS3 and Wii will get the upper hand when it comes to exclusives.
How many third party Wii exclusives would you actually want on your PS3 or 360?
 

Ren3004

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vxicepickxv said:
Ren3004 said:
Yes, next time there's a PS3 exclusive I want to play, I'm sure thinking about your policy will make me feel loads better. By the way, as a consumer what I want is to play good games. I don't care if they came out on other consoles first, or if they had one more little thing. And in case Microsoft hasn't noticed, this means that the PS3 and Wii will get the upper hand when it comes to exclusives.
How many third party Wii exclusives would you actually want on your PS3 or 360?
Hmmm, now that I think of it, the only one that comes to mind is Monster Hunter. There's probably something else of interest, but still, the point stands. Rejecting a good game just because it was on another console before is bad business.
 

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Mimsofthedawg said:
Treblaine said:
Wow, the "PS3 has no Gaems" meme is becoming more and more ironically inappropriate every year.

Now Microsoft have made it official: PS3 exclusives will ALWAYS be PS3 exclusives!
HAHAHHAHHA, I haven't heard that meme in a LONGGGG time. I guess, looking back on it, the very beginning of the PS3's life it was like that. Now? I'm saying the same about the 360.
It's still doing the rounds on 4chan but increasingly as a failtroll and more often incorporated into another meme lampooning 360's recent fall from grace. I mean Gears 3 is going to be the first 360 exclusive... in a whole 12 months.

I think it ALL started with this Gametrailers video that was a massive flamebait in GT forums (aka fanboy warzone) and spread from there:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/top-ten-screwattack/27842

Yet...

360 exclusives 2007:
-Halo 3
-Crackdown

(hmm not enough, lets cheat and include 2005 and 2006 as well)
-Dead or Alive 4
-Gears of War (also PC release)
-Dead Rising (also Wii release)
-Kameo: Elements of Time (err, was this even good?)

while

PS3 Exclusives 2007 (by International Release):
(1) Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
(2) Resistance: Fall of Man
(3) Motorstorm
(4) Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction
(5) Heavenly Sword
(6) Folklore
(7) Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
(8) WarHawk
(9) Super Stardust HD
(10)Dark Mist

Shame the PS3 cost £425 when it launched here in UK, that at the time was equivalent to $850 in 2007!

Though we got Resistance and Motorstorm bundled, it was still a high price of admission.
 

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Zenn3k said:
Doesn't bother me, there isn't a single Sony exclusive I'm interested in playing.
Really? Not a single one?

Not even Uncharted? Infamous? Resistance or Killzone? God of War? 3D Dot Game heroes?

You do like games... right? I hope you aren't just saying you aren't interested in the sense of "Interested, but not interested enough to invest in another system" kind of interested.
 

Prof. Monkeypox

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Ah, screw this policy.
I'd be 100% with my Xbox if just a few PS3 exclusive games made it onto my shelf (as it stands, I'm about 90%).
Don't want my money, Microsoft? Fine.

Also, what is this "consumer demand" he's talking about for this policy? Demand from die-hard Xbox fanboys, I guess. Who wants to do anything to help die-hard fanboys anyway? If they're that die hard they'll probably buy everything released on the console anyway- and everyone with emotional maturity above the age of 12 will get to play some shiny new titles.
 

Baldr

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Microsoft still shows a lot of love to their other platform Windows. A ton of console exclusives for the Xbox 360 are also released for the PC, but not PS3 or Wii.
 

Zenn3k

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Treblaine said:
Zenn3k said:
Doesn't bother me, there isn't a single Sony exclusive I'm interested in playing.
Really? Not a single one?

Not even Uncharted? Infamous? Resistance or Killzone? God of War? 3D Dot Game heroes?

You do like games... right? I hope you aren't just saying you aren't interested in the sense of "Interested, but not interested enough to invest in another system" kind of interested.
Killzone, no, its another bland boring shooter title.

I played the First God of War, the others look like basically the exact same game, button mash, timed boss events.

There are other games that play exactly like Infamous, so its like I've already played it.

Resistance, another shooter.

Uncharted maybe, however honestly I never bothered to look that much into it and what it has to offer, since I don't own a PS3.

I dunno what 3D Dot Game Heros is, but if its some "3D" title, I'll pass...since I can't see in 3D (1 working eyeball).

Mostly yeah, not interested enough to invest in another system kinda interested. The ONLY exclusive thats ever even sorta really interested me was MGS4, and I've gone this long without it, I'll survive somehow. :)
 

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OutrageousEmu said:
northeast rower said:
Even though this is kind of bad for the gamers, I still appreciate MS showing a little backbone.
Sorry, what? I just don't get this statement. "Yeah, its a dumb thing to do, but at least they're sticking with it".
I mean that I like that MS isn't going for sloppy ports and whatnot.
 

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OutrageousEmu said:
Terminate421 said:
Just ask for Marcus Fenix in Mortal Kombat to make up for Kratos's appearance.
Cliffy B asked them to do that. Neverealms actually said no, they didn't think the character was interesting enough.
And Kratos isn't?

Mind = Blown

Although Marcus has a gritty voice and a "Grrr angry" tone, it makes sense to do it....
 

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OutrageousEmu said:
Studs MacKenzie said:
For a console maker that relies /heavily/ on third-party support, this is a poor policy.

I really think Microsoft needs to rethink it's stand as a game publisher/developer if they're going to continue this into the next console generation cycle.
Yes, but its not a choice between a bad copy of Oblivion and a good copy. Its a choice between a bad copy, and no copy at all.
But that's just it though, isn't it?

So long as the Xbox has a version of a game, it'll move units - even though it won't be the "defining" version of the title. Say if Bethesda wanted to release it on PS3 and PC first (hypothetically), then Xbox gamers would miss out on the experience.

To refute quality assurance, Bethesda would just shoot itself in the foot if they gave only Xbox gamers a delayed port with sub-par quality.
 

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Sylveria said:
GonzoGamer said:
This is why I'm not even going to bother getting a console when the next gen rolls around, I'll sink that money into my desktop and at this point probably get more bang for my buck... and the PC really does do everything.
Ohh there's a bad gamble. With the way DRM and other services *cough* http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.308968-Internet-Explodes-Over-Origins-Invasion-of-Privacy *cough* are going these days, people, players and developers alike, are dropping the PC like a sack of hot rocks. The few that don't generally just give you a half-hearted port that's swimming in DRM.

I love my PC, don't get me wrong, but outside of MMOs, using it as a surrogate SNES, and the occasional indie game off Steam, I hardly ever use it to game on.
I wonder what will happen when consoles have to put up with the same crap as PC? They're becoming more like PC's every generation, and statistics seem to say that console piracy is almost, if not just as, bad as PC. Maybe everyone will move to Iphones, and the cycle will from there.