Microsoft Files Antitrust Complaint Against Google

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Baradiel

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Bing is shit, and whenever I'm forced to use Internet Explorer I will always go to google.com to search for stuff.

Is this Microsoft's business plan? Attempt to hijack Google, then turn on it when found out?
 

Christemo

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1. Bing is useless.
2. it steals results from google, so Microsoft can prepare for the Supreme Court Banhammer.


Microsoft are already money-grubbing assholes with no sense of humor (unlike google, who made a great april fool´s and their icon switching on their site), whereas google dont complain about other companies and dont go for completely ridicolous ways to make money.
 

Vrach

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Enkidu88 said:
Maybe Bing can't compete because it's complete crap? Just a thought Microsoft.
^This. Google also doesn't cram it's search function into my computer with various products. I wish I could say the same for Bing/Ask and all the other bullshit out there that tries to creep it's way into my browser every time I install something.

And heads up, if you wanna compete, you gotta actually have something to compete with. Putting 0 inclination for someone to consider your product over another one, with your product having a good number of downsides in comparison to that product, is not a good business idea.
 

restoshammyman

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google proved that bing was stealing there search results.
its not much of a search engine.
more of a mirror site of google itself under a different name

this was all proven by the magical word "hiybbprqag"
 

Tiger Sora

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They're getting mad because Google won't let their phones n such access youtube.... well Google owns it and can decide who can access it. And Google's search engine came out latter than any Microsoft one. So now they make a new one, Bling, and it can't compete because Google has established itself already as the best. It's the peoples choice though Microsoft to use things so Google really isn't responsible because the people want Google and not you. Go eat some paste Microsoft.
 

The Rockerfly

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Weren't Microsoft sued during the 90s for a similar business process of not letting anyone into the software market?
 

SilentHunter7

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Slavoc said:
They're getting mad because Google won't let their phones n such access youtube.... well Google owns it and can decide who can access it.
Actually, they can't, because that would be an unfair use of their search engine monopoly to ruin their competition in the smart phone business. (It would also violate Net Neutrality, but that's another story) It would be as if Microsoft programmed Windows to not allow people to access Google or use Chrome. Since Windows is so ubiquitous, it would all but destroy Google.

Same story with Google. Since Google and YouTube are so ubiquitous, not blocking them on Microsoft products unfairly hampers Microsoft's ability to compete.

In other words, you can't use a monopoly on something to push something else. The product has to stand on its own merits.
 

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aesondaandryk said:
This site is turning into Digg. Too many kids who blow smoke about a topic they know nothing about.
Joined just to say how accurate this statement is, especially on this topic.

Regardless of the irony of the situation, Microsoft and the companies they're working with have a very legitimate point. Google has created a situation in which it's a terrible business decision to enter the search engine market. These are textbook anti-competitive business practices that they're performing.
 

PinkiePyro

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although i have no real love for microsoft
I do feel its high time someone smacked google with the proverbal rolled up newspaper of fair play

*puts on conspercy hat*
plus google is eeeevilll!
 

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Lol, I love this :D "Wah, Google's really popular and everyone uses it!" So give people a reason to use your search engine? Just a thought.

With regards to Google blocking/frustrating access to YouTube, they might well have a point, but honestly with the sorts of anti-competitive shit Microsoft's been up to in the past they can fuck off and make their own video hosting site and block Google from accessing it (lol, gl with that ;) After all, there's a market for a video hoster that doesn't give a shit about copyright - maybe that's a niche they could look at exploiting? ;)
 

Wicky_42

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Utrechet said:
http://www.google.com/chromeos/demolab/
Notice how original of advertising Google did there? If you can advertise AND interact with your customer, you will increase profits. I guarantee it.
Lol, that's fantastic; my first call of 'space laser' actually worked (well, close enough XD), and amusingly enough "wild animal" unleashes an angry wife on the laptop - not sure what the thinking behind that one was, but damn funny association! :D :D
 

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Why on earth would you expect to be able to compete in the search market against a company whose name has become a verb to describe the act of searching the internet?!

Common sense is not actually all that common, it would seem...
 

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TheEvilCheese said:
Google owns the market because it's easy to use, fast and above all: Familiar.

I hope Google Counter-Claims against Internet Explorer. That'd be some poetic justice right there.
They can't really do that, though. I mean, almost nobody I know uses IE anymore. Hell, computers at my school have had IE taken off due to security issues; we only use Firefox now.

OT:

This is ridiculous. Microsoft's just a spoiled rich kid crying to his mommy about how Big Mean Google's not letting him play with his Youtube, when really Microsoft just wants Google punished for not Microsoft use his search engine. Boo-fucking-hoo. If Microsoft was competent, they wouldn't need to do this kind of thing, but their search engine is just poor quality.
 

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Utrechet said:
Microsoft, just problem solve.

1) You know that new search feature on Google where it loads the page as you type? That APPEALED to Americans who have an average 7 second patience time online. Why not try appealing to other countries other than with a fancy background on your search engine?

2) The more you are exposed of taking Google's search data, the more you look like a child. Gather your own sites.

3) Offer benefits to joining Bing over Google, for example: "Every search you do on Bing, we give $0.00001 (1/1000th of a penny)to some charity, in this modern day Haiti or Japan. (Note: Though each search is small in amount, there are alot of searches every day. Do some math.)

4) Stop complaining about Google's successes. It makes you look like a whining sniveling crybaby. Instead, post your successes and try to invest some of that Console profit into something more like this: http://www.google.com/chromeos/demolab/
Notice how original of advertising Google did there? If you can advertise AND interact with your customer, you will increase profits. I guarantee it.

*These are all just suggestions. All better than you marketing strategy.
Google has the goods for advertising. The company truly knows how to draw someone's interests while remaining fun and approachable. How people react to Google compared to Microsoft shows the dichotomy in how one is accepted over the other. Google parodies, for instance, more often take a similarly fun approach, poking more fun at the results of Google search rather than some flaw with the search. Windows? Blue Screen of Death, Error Report, Animated Clippy that manages to piss everyone off, more BSoD... Microsoft is already starting out rough from the gate and needs to change things up a bit.

Microsoft really can't do an ad like that, either, because that's pretty much what every Windows user has wanted to do at some point with their PC. I think my last time was actually a couple days ago, no less...

Look at the Windows 7 advertising campaign with that "I made Windows 7!" nonsense; how does that do anything to instill interest in the OS if a bunch of clowns claim to have made it? A smarter marketing maneuver would have been "Totally, unequivocally not Vista!" They just have a lot of work to do, a LOT of work...
 

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First off, wouldn't it be anti-monopoly laws (preventing a single corporation from dominating a field) rather than anti-trust laws (preventing a group of corporations from conspiring to dominate a field)? And aren't those laws mostly concerned with with money (for example, anti-trust laws preventing a group of corporations from setting a minimum price for a product (as opposed to each company setting their own prices and attempting to undercut each other) forcing consumers to pay more than they would in a truly free market)? Given that both Google and Bing are free to use, how do anti-trust laws (or anti-monopoly laws) even apply here?
 

soksume

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wow Microsoft way to be a sissy ***** about it Google should be able to do what ever they want with there property no?
 

Chrysocollus

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I like Google.

I'm writing this in Chrome.

I like to type in "google" in Bing.

And I don't think that Google should be blocking Microsoft. Really...they don't NEED to. I'll be surprised if they actually are. But if they are, shame on you Google, you're better than that.

But if you stop, we'll let it slide this time. ~*
 

Alexridiculous

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The only reason Bing is able to take 25% market share is because of people using Internet Explorer. The kind of people using IE don't tend to change default settings like browser search engines. Also, IE makes it quite complicated to change its search engine settings (deliberately obviously) so IE noobs like YOUR MUM can't be bothered to mess with it.