Microsoft Not Jumping on the HD Remake Bandwagon
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That's a very good point. Another fair comparison would be what George Lucas has been doing to the Star Wars films...MetalDooley said:
I should rephrase. Bring on every rerelease and port you want, but bring remakes on only if the original option remains available. I can't lie, I loved Twin Snakes over the original. Infinitely easier to control while retaining the challenge, much easier on the eyes...in every single last way. Sorry, but Mei Ling's accent isn't a huge deal to me.
If say, MGS: Twin Snakes were the only version of MGS available in the market because Kojima is trying to phase out his original work in favor of the new, THAT would suck...but if you have a PS3 with Emotion Engine, or Playstation Store, you can get the original as it was and comfortably ignore the remake.
The upcoming Halo Anniversary, from what I gather, has the entire original game as an option within its disc as well, AND Xbox 360s are backwards compatible with the original, AND you can buy it digitally from Xbox Live too. So I'm not really seeing the problem with having it all ways so that all players can enjoy in their own way.
Too right you are about PCs taking on that role, which is why I'm never against emulation. I think the biggest issue with that is when it comes to more and more modern "obsolete" consoles. There's people out there that simply don't upgrade until it's absolutely necessary because all their PCs are for is internet, storing of files and documents, and work. And to do that, you're at the barest of minimums regarding requirements. I don't often think of upgrading my PC since I only have a netbook, so I can only comfortably emulate up to the 16 bit era.DeadlyYellow said:
I hate the "milking" argument. Yeah, It's milking but so's every new game that milks what's currently popular. Journey and Limbo milk their artstyles because it's a cost effective way to make something halfway pretty in a popular style. I guarantee it's not 100% because ARTISTIC VISION.
What's wrong with making and saving money using what's already popular so you can stay afloat? Devs need money for those new games people want to see so badly, so I think anything short of outright theft of someone else's money is fair game.
I should add also, that we're in no way in a place where there are more remakes and ports than there are either original games or sequels. I mean, show of hands, how many people knew a game called Sniper: Ghost Warrior came out recently? And if you don't get the Atlus Faithful newsletter, chances are you missed out on info for My World, My Way, and Master of the Monster Lair, and Class of Heroes...etc.
Like with everything, we don't see what isn't marketed directly in front of our faces and, again like with everything else, there's no telling what the quality of the games will be. People are out there making original things...but your mileage will definitely vary, and that simply has nothing to do with how many remakes and ports there are out there.
People, if you really want HD remakes of games, don't fret.
What somebody says and what their intent is often is not the same.
For example, Warner Brothers saying that their will be a Green Lantern sequel...
What somebody says and what their intent is often is not the same.
For example, Warner Brothers saying that their will be a Green Lantern sequel...
Actually, you're not. Halo: Anniversary's multiplayer is effectively a 7-map DLC pack for Reach.viranimus said:
343i has announced that they're working on a title update which will hopefully help make the classic playlist suck less than the current one, though they haven't discussed much specifics of it.
Ahh, my mistake considering that my knowledge of this comes from the E3 articleTupolev said:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/110932-E3-Halo-Anniversary
which portrays it as it even running the same original scripting with the Reach engine running as an overlay.
Even still, a 7 map pack for what will be in essence a stand alone game for multiplayer that will recapture the multiplayer of the original game doesnt seem like a terrible idea to me.
Except the stupid part is the only games that are being redone for the MGS series are MGS2, MGS3 and Peace Walker. They're skipping over the first, just like they're doing with Silent Hill. What's the point of re-releasing games in HD when they came out for the previous generation of consoles. Especially when you're skipping over the most important entry. Most important because it's the one that started the franchise, and the oldest one that "needs" the HD graphics the most.Artemis923 said:
On another note, I want to buy HD remakes of classic games just as much as the next guy. It's a good way to support my favorite developers and of course, the marketing works on me. But as it's been said, it's kind of a waste of developers' time and effort that could be going into making new experiences. Some games I can understand being refined for the current generation. But it seems like everyone is jumping aboard and making HD remakes of "classic" games that really aren't necessarily classic or even all that good.
It's like the 3D boom we're seeing that everyone is just as upset with. Just as 3D for the sake of 3D is stupid and stunts the growth of an industry, HD for the sake of HD is just as pointless.
Yeah, 343i's own E3 teaser was highly misleading as well. A large amount of people even within the Halo community are still figuring it out.viranimus said:
Yeah, but getting it to recapture the original multiplayer is a tricky thing. People have tried to create the classic experience by remaking the maps themselves in forge, sometimes to quite impressive results, but Reach's weapon set really doesn't allow for close gameplay similarity.
343i is working on a title update which is supposedly going to give some options for getting classicish gameplay; hopefully it plus the maps offers some kind of sandbox manipulation as well, because if it doesn't, we're probably stuck with the same kind of crap you get in the classic playlist that Reach already has.
Escapist article 2021: "Makers of the Halo HD Remake: 5D Remake say they are not jumping on the 5D Remake bandwagon."
Sadly? That's fucking good. It's bad enough we call certain games over-glorified expansion packs and whine about sequels, buying the same game with a new graphics engine is pretty damn hypocritical. They could re-release it at a bargin price, but charging almost as much as a AAA game for a graphics update is bullshit.
I seemed to have miss a hell of a lot of games from last generation, so the HD remakes on my PS3 are actually well worth the money for me. Even moreso if they made them for the 360 since I didn't actually have an Xbox.
Of course, that's just me. In general, I'd rather time be spent on a new game than a remake. Unless it's remaking a platformer. There seriously aren't enough of those.
Of course, that's just me. In general, I'd rather time be spent on a new game than a remake. Unless it's remaking a platformer. There seriously aren't enough of those.
I mean it's a waste of time because it's a game that already exists. They are using time and money that could be used to make other games and they decide to bring us fucking halo just with better graphics. It's bullshit.Dexiro said:
The HD ports aren't usually handled by the original developers, though the original developers might have a say on the quality control.FlyAwayAutumn said:
The only HD collections I can think of are Sly Raccoon, God of War and Ico/Shadow of the Collosus, none of those are/were being handled by the original developers.