Microsoft Not Jumping on the HD Remake Bandwagon

[viranimus]

HOWEVER! its not a waste, because well, with this incarnation your getting an opportunity to play the original halo multiplayer with proper modern matchmaking systems already in place. On that point I can agree that this is not all together a bad idea.

Actually, you're not. Halo: Anniversary's multiplayer is effectively a 7-map DLC pack for Reach.

343i has announced that they're working on a title update which will hopefully help make the classic playlist suck less than the current one, though they haven't discussed much specifics of it.

Ahh, my mistake considering that my knowledge of this comes from the E3 article
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/110932-E3-Halo-Anniversary

which portrays it as it even running the same original scripting with the Reach engine running as an overlay.

Even still, a 7 map pack for what will be in essence a stand alone game for multiplayer that will recapture the multiplayer of the original game doesnt seem like a terrible idea to me.

 

[chocolatekake]

Konami, for example, is bringing the Metal Gear Solid collection and the Zone of the Enders collection to the console.

This is FAR more mouth watering than any Halo remake could ever be.

Except the stupid part is the only games that are being redone for the MGS series are MGS2, MGS3 and Peace Walker. They're skipping over the first, just like they're doing with Silent Hill. What's the point of re-releasing games in HD when they came out for the previous generation of consoles. Especially when you're skipping over the most important entry. Most important because it's the one that started the franchise, and the oldest one that "needs" the HD graphics the most.

On another note, I want to buy HD remakes of classic games just as much as the next guy. It's a good way to support my favorite developers and of course, the marketing works on me. But as it's been said, it's kind of a waste of developers' time and effort that could be going into making new experiences. Some games I can understand being refined for the current generation. But it seems like everyone is jumping aboard and making HD remakes of "classic" games that really aren't necessarily classic or even all that good.

It's like the 3D boom we're seeing that everyone is just as upset with. Just as 3D for the sake of 3D is stupid and stunts the growth of an industry, HD for the sake of HD is just as pointless.

 

[Vie]

So we won't be seeing HD versions.

We'll just get 10th Anniversary Editions of all of Microsoft's old titles.

Because that's a totally different thing of course.

 

[Tupolev]

Ahh, my mistake considering that my knowledge of this comes from the E3 article
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/110932-E3-Halo-Anniversary

which portrays it as it even running the same original scripting with the Reach engine running as an overlay.

Yeah, 343i's own E3 teaser was highly misleading as well. A large amount of people even within the Halo community are still figuring it out.

Even still, a 7 map pack for what will be in essence a stand alone game for multiplayer that will recapture the multiplayer of the original game doesnt seem like a terrible idea to me.

Yeah, but getting it to recapture the original multiplayer is a tricky thing. People have tried to create the classic experience by remaking the maps themselves in forge, sometimes to quite impressive results, but Reach's weapon set really doesn't allow for close gameplay similarity.

343i is working on a title update which is supposedly going to give some options for getting classicish gameplay; hopefully it plus the maps offers some kind of sandbox manipulation as well, because if it doesn't, we're probably stuck with the same kind of crap you get in the classic playlist that Reach already has.

 

[Lionsfan]

Yeah...once this game makes a buttload of cash we'll see how long this "No more Remakes" phase sticks around. They already revived the Halo Trilogy for another set of games, so I guarantee there will be more to come

 

[drakythe]

HD Remake of Perfect Dark was an Xbox exclusive.

Point. However, Xbox did not have the original Perfect Dark, so it was less of a straight up remake than it was an update to another console (like Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes for GC).

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

Escapist article 2021: "Makers of the Halo HD Remake: 5D Remake say they are not jumping on the 5D Remake bandwagon."

 

[Blatherscythe]

Sadly? That's fucking good. It's bad enough we call certain games over-glorified expansion packs and whine about sequels, buying the same game with a new graphics engine is pretty damn hypocritical. They could re-release it at a bargin price, but charging almost as much as a AAA game for a graphics update is bullshit.

 

[FinalHeart95]

I seemed to have miss a hell of a lot of games from last generation, so the HD remakes on my PS3 are actually well worth the money for me. Even moreso if they made them for the 360 since I didn't actually have an Xbox.

Of course, that's just me. In general, I'd rather time be spent on a new game than a remake. Unless it's remaking a platformer. There seriously aren't enough of those.

 

[FlyAwayAutumn]

Good.

While I like the idea of my favorite games getting better graphics. Giving me the chance to buy them and relive the glory days. It's still a waste of time and money. For example, I have Halo and can go back and play it whenever the hell I want. So why would I need an updated version? That won't stop me from buying this HD remake of Halo. But it also doesn't mean it isn't a waste of time.

It's not a waste of time if people would buy it, whether it's a waste of time or not isn't based off your purchase alone.

Halo I couldn't see working in HD but that's just my opinion, their are other games that would though I'm sure. I'm more of a playstation guy so I don't know the Xbox library that well, but the remake thing for the PS3 is working out awesomely ~

I mean it's a waste of time because it's a game that already exists. They are using time and money that could be used to make other games and they decide to bring us fucking halo just with better graphics. It's bullshit.

 

[Srs bzns]

Yeah the only HD they did, they ended ruining the game... Conker bad fur day... and in theyre ignorence after ruining the game they decided to cancel the long-awaited sequel....

Microsoft and EA and on the top of my list of: Most retard, greedy, "gaming" company in the world...

What about nintendo and their complete lack of new IP's?

Nintendo at least delivers good games, because tey wait to perfect the product... they do not rush everything to make "big bucks" has EA or Microsoft...

Nintendo prefers quality over quantity, and theyre right... so no... im sorry nintendo is not on my list of corrupt, retard, greedy "gaming" company...

Even though this new, 'innovative' design of slapping a screen on a controller isn't even theirs?

 

[Dexiro]

Good.

While I like the idea of my favorite games getting better graphics. Giving me the chance to buy them and relive the glory days. It's still a waste of time and money. For example, I have Halo and can go back and play it whenever the hell I want. So why would I need an updated version? That won't stop me from buying this HD remake of Halo. But it also doesn't mean it isn't a waste of time.

It's not a waste of time if people would buy it, whether it's a waste of time or not isn't based off your purchase alone.

Halo I couldn't see working in HD but that's just my opinion, their are other games that would though I'm sure. I'm more of a playstation guy so I don't know the Xbox library that well, but the remake thing for the PS3 is working out awesomely ~

I mean it's a waste of time because it's a game that already exists. They are using time and money that could be used to make other games and they decide to bring us fucking halo just with better graphics. It's bullshit.

The HD ports aren't usually handled by the original developers, though the original developers might have a say on the quality control.

The only HD collections I can think of are Sly Raccoon, God of War and Ico/Shadow of the Collosus, none of those are/were being handled by the original developers.

 

[chocolatekake]

Konami, for example, is bringing the Metal Gear Solid collection and the Zone of the Enders collection to the console.

This is FAR more mouth watering than any Halo remake could ever be.

Except the stupid part is the only games that are being redone for the MGS series are MGS2, MGS3 and Peace Walker. They're skipping over the first, just like they're doing with Silent Hill. What's the point of re-releasing games in HD when they came out for the previous generation of consoles. Especially when you're skipping over the most important entry. Most important because it's the one that started the franchise, and the oldest one that "needs" the HD graphics the most.

Several reasons. Ps1 era gaphics can't be upscaled easily. Metal Gear Solid 1 is already available on the PsN Store. Metal Gear Solis isn't the start of the series, Metal Gear is. You couldn't fit the four games onto a Blu-Ray.

Fair enough. But I don't think that HD remakes should simply be upscaling. It should be a process to actually improve the game. Maybe include things that weren't possible. And yes, some games may already be on the PSN, but why not just put all of them on the PSN, save time and probably make the same amount of money.

Also, I do know that Metal Gear was the first, but the Solid franchise was more what I was talking about.

 

[Woodsey]

I've found it kind of funny so far that a number of the HD remakes (Splinter Cell, PoP) could be bought for cheaper on the PC, where they're already in HD.

 

[Lucky Chainsaw]

I'm actually really excited to see more and more games get HD remasters. I dream of a day in which the entire history of games is available officially from the publishers in some form of another. It's best that they be made HD/Widescreen friendly while they're at it.

 

[Vault boy Eddie]

343 Industries' Frank O'Connor says that the gussied up re-release of Halo: Combat Evolved isn't the start of a series of HD remakes from Microsoft. Instead, it's being created specifically to celebrate the game's tenth anniversary.

They forgot to add "unless it makes a ton of money, in which case, we will make our mothers HD and sell them"

 

[WonderWillard]

For everyone bashing remakes for being money grabbers, keep in mind that this Halo remake is only going to cost $40, I believe. Yes, money is a part of it, but for a truly classic game to have new, beautiful-looking graphics, I can't say there's much to complain about at that price tag.

 

[sunpop]

I give them the time it takes for the remake to sell 1 million copies until they announce every game from the xbox will be remade in HD

 

[Squilookle]

Well that sucks id really like a HD rerelease of ... Crimson Skies

Oh man, I would love that too. Especially since the old one literally tears up on modern cards. It's not just asthetic, it's SAVING THE GAME!

 

[antigodoflife]

OH FUCK YES! I am so pumped, HD REMAKE OF Metal gear Solid and Zone of enders =3 Thank you Kojima.