Microsoft Prohibits Gamers From Cashing in on YouTube
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Nope. Rooster Teeth has a contract with Microsoft, otherwise how would they get all the early access for Halo 4 to do PSAs and junk. Clearly they won't be effected by this, but for youtube commentators it might be hell for them when it is released. ^_^
On my opinion...it makes me sad.[/quote]
Ok then. YOU wanted to do playthroughs on YouTube, so now you cant do Halo. And what about the NEXT RoosterTeeth? Al the guys new to machinima making can no longer use Halo, even though there are so many good tools.
On my opinion...it makes me sad.[/quote]
Ok then. YOU wanted to do playthroughs on YouTube, so now you cant do Halo. And what about the NEXT RoosterTeeth? Al the guys new to machinima making can no longer use Halo, even though there are so many good tools.
apple beat microsoft. apple control over yourp latform is of the level of hitlers ocntrol of nazi germany. microsoft want nazi-like control. they are shutting down its users from any competitor.Evil Smurf said:
it all makes sense, instead of having only one choice - windows, we will have no choice at all.
It doesnt take ACTA to stop the internet, you just have to turn off the computers.
Then again you said you have a MAC, so i guess the point is already beyond you.
Wrong. The footage video you have filmed is not copyright to MS, because they didnt manage to push though SOPA and PIPA. it is copyright to YOU, and therefore legal to do this.Grenge Di Origin said:
(sighs)Ympulse said:
If the video you're making is a "transformative work" (i.e. it's your own unique gameplay, you're putting your own commentary over it and/or you're showing clips to illustrate a point), it falls under fair use laws. Therefore, it would not fall under typical copyright law. That's how most people who make game-related videos structure their videos.
As it is, the only time any of this was ever enforceable was if a stingy copyright holder (Rockstar, notably) pulled videos to keep spoilers of their games for leaking out. Otherwise, most (if not all) companies look the other way and let you run rampant if you're doing walkthroughs, LP's or commentary. Other industries are a different matter (you can't upload an episode of, say, America's Next Top Model and earn money off it through AdSense), but transformative works for games are pretty clear.
I said it earlier in this topic - this won't do much of anything. The major players are already covered by their licensing/connections (Machinima, Rooster Teeth), and the regular players uploading footage can likely still monetize it if they're using commentary. Apparently, they've already had this policy in place for years, and are just re-affirming it for anyone who plans on trying to earn exorbitant amounts on official trailers and clips.
Fail quote is fail like you making an RP.BJ_Pwn said:
And as I said, this is sad. That usually means I am sad about something or a general topic...like this one.
Enough said.
I was wondering how this would impact review footage and the like, since that's protected under Fair Use.Altorin said:
Last I checked, Fair Use is legally upheld, and trumps any policy MS (or anyone) can make.
EDIT: Nevermind, I'm looking at the legalese now. They have ways of distinguishing between what's covered under Fair Use and what isn't.
Disregard this.
Ahh, microsoft. microsoft.. microsoft... 'shakes head'
you pick your battles so poorly
you enrage your paying customers so often
and for what this time?
it 'just' means you cant get 4% of the games value back from adsense
/golfclap
it does not prevent story spoilers in games, it will not stop reviewers ragging on them
it in fact serves no purpose whatsoever other than to annoy people
legal bs, designed to reduce consumer's rights for no reason
congrats
you pick your battles so poorly
you enrage your paying customers so often
and for what this time?
it 'just' means you cant get 4% of the games value back from adsense
/golfclap
it does not prevent story spoilers in games, it will not stop reviewers ragging on them
it in fact serves no purpose whatsoever other than to annoy people
legal bs, designed to reduce consumer's rights for no reason
congrats
Fair use stops being the be-all, end-all clause once you use the material for commercial purposes, which you obviously do by entering a partnership with YT. By then it can go one way or the other in front of a court, with lots of factors playing in. Normally companies just don't care, but they would indeed have a potentially winnable case if they did.crazyrabbits said:
If there's ever been a case where someone has been officially charged in court with using talking over gameplay clips, you let me know. As it stands, most companies just look the other way when people put LP's/commentary on Youtube, because it's giving them free promotion (ad revenue be damned).Staskala said:
There is, obviously, a small subset of users that are trying to game the system by trying to make money off official trailers/developer clips, but really, this has been a non-issue for a long time. As I said, as long as it's a transformative work, you're pretty much in the clear.
New games get LP'd/commentated on all the time - for instance, the Youtube user Smudboy uploaded hours worth of commentary/critique concerning Mass Effect 3, and has apparently made at least a solid $1,000 off the videos he posted, but he hasn't been hit with copyright claims or backlash from studios.
Sounds like someone at Microsoft got greedy, and managed to explain their case to the powers that be well enough to be allowed to take steps.
Frankly, I think this is a straight-up bad decision. The goodwill lost, the free advertising for their games lost, not to mention the very real possibility of driving some of the most dedicated fans into the arms of other games...
I mean, I suppose I should say a small prayer of thanks that they didn't just out-and-out say that any unauthorized use of footage of their games amounts to piracy. But I really don't think this is going to go over well.
Frankly, I think this is a straight-up bad decision. The goodwill lost, the free advertising for their games lost, not to mention the very real possibility of driving some of the most dedicated fans into the arms of other games...
I mean, I suppose I should say a small prayer of thanks that they didn't just out-and-out say that any unauthorized use of footage of their games amounts to piracy. But I really don't think this is going to go over well.
This is fucking hilarious. Need I really say more? I was only going to consider looking at Halo 4 by what Machinima showed me. I signed the petition because it's just silly of Microsoft.
I think their motto is:
Microsoft: We inconvenience you for our convenience!
I think their motto is:
Microsoft: We inconvenience you for our convenience!
Compare thisBJ_Pwn said:
Your RP
With this RP
Twisted Earth.
You could of added a few things and a interest thread in the thread title. I really shouldn't be lecturing you kids with this stuff.
That's unfair, dude. That RP is a re-start -- they already HAVE everything. I'm still writing the rules for my RP.StormShaun said:
Imma go now because I think something just exploded in the kitchen.
Its the economy in miniature...
get rid of the middle class(people who make video's that are popular enough to make them a few quid,but not massive)
while extending a helping hand to the 1% who have channels and views in the millions+
hmmm,occupy Youtube anyone?
get rid of the middle class(people who make video's that are popular enough to make them a few quid,but not massive)
while extending a helping hand to the 1% who have channels and views in the millions+
hmmm,occupy Youtube anyone?