Modern Warfare 3 Trailer Kicks Off World War III

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Witty Name Here said:
So Russia is attacking the U.S., Germany, France, and England at the same time?

I don't really think the Russian Bear, despite how sharp it's teeth, could stand against the Bald Eagle, the Black Eagle, the Lion, and the... Snoody Frenchman?

Also, pause at :30... Why do soldiers in France have U.S. flags on their uniforms? I would think the government would be busy defending attacks on their own soil, I'm pretty sure the french are capable of defending themselves, if not even driving the Russians back. I know the whole stereotype of the "Cheese Eating Surrender monkeys" but will we really not be able to play as the french while in their own country?
Maybe the plot is original for once, and the American army is attacking Europe for reasons unknown. After all, General whatshisface said he wanted military glory in MW2, and he could have gone rogue. Meanwhile Makarov allies himself with Europe by invading the USA to try and remove some of the pressure on Europe, which, weakened by the financial crisis, and with politicians expenses taking away the rest of the money (After all, they need 10 ft solid gold replicas of their genitals to help them govern. It's left to Price, Soap and Nikolai to sort out the mess, possibly by breaking into a nuclear sub, or a silo.

Or it could be the standard McCarthyism wet dream that made up most of MW2's storyline. Who knows?
 

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Remember that time when CoD was a down-to-earth shooter with great storylines, gameplay and a semblance of realism?

I miss those times.
 

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There was one word in that made me possibly think about buying this game..

"England, England, England" - I do hope we get to rip Parliament, take out snipers in the London Eye and then raid M16 headquarters with James Bond whilst drinking tea.. However I doubt that.. :|
 

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A single man? Hmmm...who could that be...Ghost?...no, not him...

Lord Kloo said:
There was one word in that made me possibly think about buying this game..

"England, England, England" - I do hope we get to rip Parliament, take out snipers in the London Eye and then raid M16 headquarters with James Bond whilst drinking tea.. However I doubt that.. :|
And a 100% chance of Big Ben being knocked down.
 

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HankMan said:
Please Infinity Ward, I can handle multiple deaths of player characters, but for the love of God
NO
FUCKING
FLASHBACKS!
I fap to this idea of no flashbacks.

Game looks awesome, can't wait to see what the prestige edition will come with, perhaps a small warhead for starting your own wars? :)
 

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Dr_Steve_Brule said:
This doesn't make any sense.
YOU DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE MODERN WARFARE.
Of course it doesn't. But it'll have explosions and will probably be kinda fun.

I'm just hoping for a more balanced and fun campaign mode like Cod 4...
 

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Outright Villainy said:
Dr_Steve_Brule said:
This doesn't make any sense.
YOU DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE MODERN WARFARE.
But it'll have explosions and will probably be kinda fun.
It was fun the first time, in MW1. I expected at least some change in MW2, but none came. Didn't buy Black Ops, played it at a friends house, and it was just 60$ for more of the same.
Sorry, but unless MW3 can bring something new to the table which will trump BF3, i'm not buying.
 

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HankMan said:
Please Infinity Ward, I can handle multiple deaths of player characters, but for the love of God
NO
FUCKING
FLASHBACKS!
But... but... the sniper level was the best level of the original Modern Warfare!
 

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Dr_Steve_Brule said:
Outright Villainy said:
Dr_Steve_Brule said:
This doesn't make any sense.
YOU DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE MODERN WARFARE.
But it'll have explosions and will probably be kinda fun.
It was fun the first time, in MW1. I expected at least some change in MW2, but none came. Didn't buy Black Ops, played it at a friends house, and it was just 60$ for more of the same.
Sorry, but unless MW3 can bring something new to the table which will trump BF3, i'm not buying.
I'm with you, it's been devolving in terms of gameplay since CoD4. Less and less strategy, more and more arcade shooter. But still, I'll at least rent it for the story, the story has always been freaking awesome.

OT: For people who say it's lame because it used the same plot tricks as the games right before it... what, do you have the attention span of a freaking gnat? Jezuz, what the hell do you want, a level where you act out the depiction of a battle in kabuki? Sure the levels are linear, but CoD isn't a sandbox game, it's driven by plot and scripted sequences and is meant to be theatrical. It simply couldn't accomplish that if it took a sandbox, open world approach to gameplay. To criticize it for not executing on its basic design principles is one thing, but to criticize it for not being something completely different is completely unreasonable.
 

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Dr_Steve_Brule said:
So, let me get this straight-Russia invades the US, England, France and Germany, and even uses WMD's (chemical gas attacks) on major cities in England, France and Germany, and everybody, fucking EVERYBODY just forget that they have nuclear weapons?
What the fuck?
How do you expect me to not notice this huge, gaping plot hole, Infinity Ward? You already blew up about 3 nukes in my face throughout the series, so what exactly is keeping every single country from using them?
Also, why did the Russians invade a foreign country based on information given to them by a terrorist, and not just a terrorist, a terrorist that just blew up one of their airports, no less?
Why does everyone seem to think that having a CIA agent in an airport massacre justifies all out war?
How come the entire network of computer and television transmission can be brought down by one fallen satellite, even though only 5% of our communications are run by satellites anyway?
What has Russia got to gain from invading the US? Fast food and crappy TV?
Why do they invade England, France and Germany? For the Lulz?

This doesn't make any sense.
YOU DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE MODERN WARFARE.
Makarov didn't give them info to invade the U.S., he gave them the defense codes so that they could invade without alerting the defense network. Makarov was the one who killed the airport, but the Russians didn't know that, they thought it was the U.S., hence why they invaded, and hence why the level is called "No Russian"... because they only speak English in order let them think that it was Americans. Oh, and the entire network got brought down by the EMP blast set off by a nuke in the upper atmosphere fired from a Russian sub based taken over by Captain Price in order to stop the Russian invasion. The 'satellite' you are talking about is the international space station, and the purpose of that was just to show you first hand the impact of the EMP, which WOULD take out the vast majority of the communications on the east coast, along with irradiating and probably killing everyone beneath it (which is the actual part of the thing that doesn't make sense).

But, I agree it doesn't make that much sense. Maybe everyone decides not to use nukes because it would just be the end of everything. Kind of the "better red than dead" attitude, "Ok, there's no point in us destroying the world and ending human history just because we lost to you."

I'm not saying that makes sense, but unless the Russians came up with some sort of James Bondian nuclear defense system to stop ICBMs then it's the best explanation I can come up with. Well, maybe Russia is only invading the US and the problems in Europe are caused by a MASSIVE FUCKING ARMY of terrorists with a huge military industrial complex behind them. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, actually, considering Russia sold off half of its shit after the cold war it probably isn't as impossible as one might think.
 

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I agree it doesn't make that much sense, maybe everyone decides not to use nukes because it would just be the end of everything. Kind of the "better red than dead" attitude, "Ok, there's no point in us destroying the world and ending human history just because we lost to you."
This argument doesn't hold much ground, and in fact means that Russia has nothing to gain from this as well. I'm pretty sure that mutually assured destruction (MAD) is still a thing, so the best-case scenario for Russia is that America, with its dying breath, launches a world-ending salvo of nuclear warheads. Soooo? it?s a suicide mission, then?
Also, in the single player, price launches a nuke that causes an EMP (not even going to start discussing about how he launched a nuclear warhead on his own, how he caused it to detonate in space and how there is no safeguard against someone just casually walking into a nuclear submarine and launching a nuke). But if the Russians were serious about their ?kill America? plan from the get-go, wouldn't they probably launch EMP and nuclear strikes of their own as a precursor to the invasion? But then, American missile silos are hardened against just such attacks, to ensure MAD, so Russia still loses.
Why do you think that the Soviet Union never engaged the U.S.A, and vice versa, in any combat aside from proxy wars? Because they were fully aware that whatever attack they're going to launch, it's going to end in a global apocalypse in a matter of hours.

ReiverCorrupter said:
Makarov didn't give them info to invade the U.S., he gave them the defense codes so that they could invade without alerting the defense network. Makarov was the one who killed the airport, but the Russians didn't know that, they thought it was the U.S., hence why they invaded, and hence why the level is called "No Russian"... because they only speak English in order let them think that it was Americans.
Why did anyone, ANYONE bother believing anything Makarov just said?
Makarov is an internationally known figure of menace, then, with a Russian military record. So when he confidently machineguns his way through the airport without even bothering to put on a mask, are we to believe that the Russian authorities weren?t able to identify him from security camera footage?

Instead, Russia blames a nobody CIA agent found dead at the scene who was killed by a point-blank pistol shot to the head. That doesn?t raise any red flags at all? The obvious conclusion is that the whole thing was an American plot, and that a full-scale invasion of the continental US is the appropriate response. The transition to the Takedown favela mission begets more confusion, such as: how did Shepherd tie the shell casings to Rojas? Meticulous analysis of the cutscene indicates that he actually re-created a 3D model of a shell casing from security camera footage, which was sufficiently hi-rez to make a match against a big bullet database. So the Russians, who had the actual shell casings to analyze, couldn?t figure that out? The security footage was crisp enough to recreate minute detail on a spent shell casing, but not of sufficient quality to identify Makarov?s face.

Conclusion: Makarov?s face is smaller than a bullet.

ReiverCorrupter said:
Oh, and the entire network got brought down by the EMP blast set off by a nuke in the upper atmosphere fired from a Russian sub based taken over by Captain Price in order to stop the Russian invasion. The 'satellite' you are talking about is the international space station, and the purpose of that was just to show you first hand the impact of the EMP, which WOULD take out the vast majority of the communications on the east coast, along with irradiating and probably killing everyone beneath it (which is the actual part of the thing that doesn't make sense).
No, it gets taken down because of one downed ACS module that the Russians recovered from a downed sattelite.
I wasn't talking about the EMP, nor was I talking about the international space station.
 

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Dr_Steve_Brule said:
ReiverCorrupter said:
Dr_Steve_Brule said:
So, let me get this straight-Russia invades the US, England, France and Germany, and even uses WMD's (chemical gas attacks) on major cities in England, France and Germany, and everybody, fucking EVERYBODY just forget that they have nuclear weapons?
What the fuck?
How do you expect me to not notice this huge, gaping plot hole, Infinity Ward? You already blew up about 3 nukes in my face throughout the series, so what exactly is keeping every single country from using them?
Also, why did the Russians invade a foreign country based on information given to them by a terrorist, and not just a terrorist, a terrorist that just blew up one of their airports, no less?
Why does everyone seem to think that having a CIA agent in an airport massacre justifies all out war?
How come the entire network of computer and television transmission can be brought down by one fallen satellite, even though only 5% of our communications are run by satellites anyway?
What has Russia got to gain from invading the US? Fast food and crappy TV?
Why do they invade England, France and Germany? For the Lulz?

This doesn't make any sense.
YOU DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE MODERN WARFARE.
I agree it doesn't make that much sense, maybe everyone decides not to use nukes because it would just be the end of everything. Kind of the "better red than dead" attitude, "Ok, there's no point in us destroying the world and ending human history just because we lost to you."
This argument doesn't hold much ground, and in fact means that Russia has nothing to gain from this as well. I'm pretty sure that mutually assured destruction (MAD) is still a thing, so the best-case scenario for Russia is that America, with its dying breath, launches a world-ending salvo of nuclear warheads. Soooo? it?s a suicide mission, then?
Also, in the single player, price launches a nuke that causes an EMP (not even going to start discussing about how he launched a nuclear warhead on his own, how he caused it to detonate in space and how there is no safeguard against someone just casually walking inside a nuclear submarine and launching a nuke). But if the Russians were serious about their ?kill America? plan from the get-go, wouldn't they probably launch EMP and nuclear strikes of their own as a precursor to the invasion? But then, American missile silos are hardened against just such attacks, to ensure MAD, so Russia still loses.
Why do you think that the Soviet Union never engaged the U.S.A, and vice versa, in any combat aside from proxy wars? Because they were fully aware that whatever attack they're going to launch, it's going to end in a global apocalypse in a matter of hours.
Um.. I agree, it doesn't make much sense. Plus almost all of our nukes are in our sea wolf submarines which are out to sea. The explanation that they gave was that the codes to our entire defense network was somehow stolen by the Russians and they used it against us to make us helpless. Why we would have a defense network that could be shut down so easily by a stolen code is the part that doesn't make sense.
 

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Dr_Steve_Brule said:
ReiverCorrupter said:
Dr_Steve_Brule said:
So, let me get this straight-Russia invades the US, England, France and Germany, and even uses WMD's (chemical gas attacks) on major cities in England, France and Germany, and everybody, fucking EVERYBODY just forget that they have nuclear weapons?
What the fuck?
How do you expect me to not notice this huge, gaping plot hole, Infinity Ward? You already blew up about 3 nukes in my face throughout the series, so what exactly is keeping every single country from using them?
Also, why did the Russians invade a foreign country based on information given to them by a terrorist, and not just a terrorist, a terrorist that just blew up one of their airports, no less?
Why does everyone seem to think that having a CIA agent in an airport massacre justifies all out war?
How come the entire network of computer and television transmission can be brought down by one fallen satellite, even though only 5% of our communications are run by satellites anyway?
What has Russia got to gain from invading the US? Fast food and crappy TV?
Why do they invade England, France and Germany? For the Lulz?

This doesn't make any sense.
YOU DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE MODERN WARFARE.
Makarov didn't give them info to invade the U.S., he gave them the defense codes so that they could invade without alerting the defense network. Makarov was the one who killed the airport, but the Russians didn't know that, they thought it was the U.S., hence why they invaded, and hence why the level is called "No Russian"... because they only speak English in order let them think that it was Americans. Oh, and the entire network got brought down by the EMP blast set off by a nuke in the upper atmosphere fired from a Russian sub based taken over by Captain Price in order to stop the Russian invasion. The 'satellite' you are talking about is the international space station, and the purpose of that was just to show you first hand the impact of the EMP, which WOULD take out the vast majority of the communications on the east coast, along with irradiating and probably killing everyone beneath it (which is the actual part of the thing that doesn't make sense).
Why did anyone, ANYONE bother believing anything THAT just said?
Makarov is an internationally known figure of menace, then, with a Russian military record. So when he confidently machineguns his way through the airport without even bothering to put on a mask, are we to believe that the Russian authorities weren?t able to identify him from security camera footage?

Instead, Russia blames a nobody CIA agent found dead at the scene who was killed by a point-blank pistol shot to the head. That doesn?t raise any red flags at all? The obvious conclusion is that the whole thing was an American plot, and that a full-scale invasion of the continental US is the appropriate response. The transition to the Takedown favela mission begets more confusion, such as: how did Shepherd tie the shell casings to Rojas? Meticulous analysis of the cutscene indicates that he actually re-created a 3D model of a shell casing from security camera footage, which was sufficiently hi-rez to make a match against a big bullet database. So the Russians, who had the actual shell casings to analyze, couldn?t figure that out? The security footage was crisp enough to recreate minute detail on a spent shell casing, but not of sufficient quality to identify Makarov?s face.

Conclusion: Makarov?s face is smaller than a bullet.
Once again, I'm not trying to defend it, but no fiction makes sense really, everything requires suspension of disbelief. The only explanation that I can offer is that the Russian government is in on it, remember that they've become fanatics in the MW version of reality, so maybe they had planned it all out in order to give them an excuse to invade the U.S. I think the U.S. tried to tell the Russian government that it was Makarov but they wouldn't listen or something. It's consistent with Makarov being in cahoots with at least some part of the Russian government. Also remember that it was a U.S. General that allowed it all to happen and who was funding Makarov because he thought America wasn't patriotic enough or something. Like I said, it doesn't make much sense.
 

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Can sniping be fun again? Please?

None of this Treyarch "balancing" please. MW1 and MW2 both got sniping right, just take it from either of them.