Molyneux: Wii and Move Are the Same

[afaceforradio]

Well, I agree and disagree.

Yes, they are very, very similar. Too similar, in fact.

However, that doesn't mean that what Microsoft is doing is good. Hell no.

At least the Move and Wii actually have buttons.

Once again, I agree.

Kinect is just a glorified controller-free-Wii with better graphics. The games for it look atrocious and repetitive. The 'hop up and down' will be the new Wii-waggle.

 

[Omegatronacles]

And in other breaking news, fire is hot and water is wet. Who'd have thunk it?

Not only is this an obvious point to make, but he's behind the bandwagon, seeing as just about every webcomic, satirical blog and games website I frequent made the same point weeks ago.

 

[RobCoxxy]

I agree Kinect is more advanced than Wii or Move, but so far, the games are just Wii ripoffs.

 

[WilliamRLBaker]

Spoiler

The reason Kinect is better than Move and Wiimote is because it rips off a technology from last gen?
Love the line "This is not me talking as a Microsoft employee".

Why use the word rip off, let alone the fact that the eyetoy was not the first game camera the technology in the kinect is far past what the eyetoy of even this generation on the ps3 is capable.
Though I still hate it, like I hate move and the wii mote.
I'll just stick with my old controllers when I can.

P.S: Peter was doing good with the whole not talking as a microsoft employee till he started pimping kinect he should have kept it at they really are just the same thing move and wii...

I knew I'd be quoted on this. Yeah, I'm aware the MS technology is far more advanced than the EyeToy. How much it does better we will still have to see.
We're not digging that much into technical stuff, though, or at least Molyneux doesn't so I didn't feel I'd have to. I could have said "Yeah, Microsoft argues the Kinect is different to the EyeToy, but they kinda seem the same... They enable certain sorts of experiences that are pretty similar."

I was simply saying why use rip off, since that implies secret and often malicious intent which I'm sure they aren't malicious nor very secret about it.
Copy at the most...but really what is it copy of? eyetoy or other visual tech games that predate the eyetoy.

 

[Arkhangelsk]

I'd rather have the Move than the Kinect. The way I see it, Move is more of an improved version of the Wiimote, and the games will have better graphics, so I'm a happy sailor. I trust that Sony will succeed.

Microsoft, on the other hand, chose a bad fruit. The Kinect doesn't look fun at all. Sure, you get direct control over the game, but who wants to jump around as a means of gaming? I'd rather have a lovely sitdown where I just flail my arms (with or without the Move). And I don't see many game genres where the Kinect is practical and fun.

 

[Stabby Joe]

At the risk of coming off a low brow: DUUUUUUUUH!

The only thing move can do tha has any real noticeable advantage is the better graphical quality the PS3 can produce.

 

[HK_01]

I hope he sees the potential for kinect and a possible Black and White 3. casting spells with hand gestures, training your monster and building structures. What I first thought when I saw kinect,"This will revolutionize rts games on consoles."

I couldn't agree with you more. But if they make a B&W3 (which is unlikely because AFAIK EA owns the rights to it) it should also come out for the PC, because I'm not going to get Kinect. I still hope that the existence of Kinect causes them to continue the Black and White series, though.

 

[Rayansaki]

Unless the wii magically grew the ability to notice 1 milimeter movements an 1º rotations on any directions, I'll just call epic bias. At least it has what people in the future like to call buttons.

Move is to wiimote what Kinect is to Eyetoy.

 

[Baldry]

The only difference I see is the move's controls are not connected unlike the wii, but that's just nit picking!
Anyway I think their will be a difference in the types of games but otherwise their will be no difference I can see.

 

[Dorkmaster Flek]

Well duh. It's pretty obvious looking at it that Move is simply a more precise version of the Wii remote and nunchuck. Oh, and it has more buttons. Joy. Kinect at least is actually something we haven't seen before, and a pretty impressive piece of consumer level tech. However, there are serious doubts about how well it actually works. Frankly, I think Nintendo hit it right by keeping it simple, and making it the core controller so they don't have to rely on addon penetration. Actually with Kinect, that sounds painful...

 

[Deadlock Radium]

He's right, my mates are sick of me stating that the move is wii but with glowing balls but it's true!

Wii with glowing balls sounds so wrong.

But I agree. The Move = Wii-controller.

 

[Nick Holmgren]

I really see move and wii as being like SNES and Genesis in a way. Sure they had roughly the same potential but it was what people did with them that mattered. Move is showing it can pull off what core gamer's want, what with heavy rain getting Move controls and killzone 3 showing off every last bit of the PS3's arsenal, I think I heard Little Big Planet 2 will be move but not sure. The wii has only the bits from suda 51 and miamoto (wii music aside) for show. If that is exactly the same thing then may I say Fable 2 is impossible to discern from wii shovel ware?

Exaggerated metaphor aside move seems to have actual applications coming up while the wii seems to only shine in the next zelda game, seeing as Mario rarely uses motion controls and metroid seems to be going that route.

 

[Spaceman_Spiff]

They are the same but, the PS3 is still a PS3 so we could probably get some decent hardware behind the games, unlikely to do much in retrospect.

 

[Nick Holmgren]

The only difference I see is the move's controls are not connected unlike the wii, but that's just nit picking!
Anyway I think their will be a difference in the types of games but otherwise their will be no difference I can see.

Hasn't that been what decided the console wars in the past? It doesn't matter if a console has 9001 terrabytes of ram and 1 yottabyte graphics memory with a 1337 THz processor, if no good games are on it then it is a crap console. Hence why the Atari Jaguar went south. Sure it had the power but no one made anything that good of it.

 

[Squilookle]

Blah blah blah Molyneux- come back when you've made a finished game and I might listen then.

 

[Vohn_exel]

To me, all of these things are the same. I'm not really planning on getting any of them. If I got one at all, I'd get a Wii. It's a complete system at least and has a tried and true method of how it works. The others just want to be the same thing.

 

[LINKXIII]

So basically Molyneux is praising Microsoft for ripping off the SONY Eye-Toy

 

[Pingieking]

Way to point out the obvious Pete. In fact, it's so obvious that even Sony basically stated that months ago.

But then again, it's all about now devs use the controls, and after watching some demos of the Move games I think that Kinect has some catching up to do.