Too true, especially the bit at the end, although I think the degradation of melee weapons could work, seeing as Capcom seem so fucking enthusiastic to implement it. I think they probably could of made it so weapons only degrade when your fighting certain, more powerful enemies, and it's not until you improve your weapon that you can take on these enemies. It could work slightly better, because your blade wouldn't pointlessly get fucked up by tiny, low level critters and it could work as an incentive to upgrade weapons to take on the harder enemies. That said, however, is generally quite a shitty idea, because it just wouldn't really work with melee weapons. Fallout did a good job with guns though.Dorkmaster Flek said:
Monster Hunter Tri
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
- Start date
10 hors of toturial? Yeah right, at 10 hours of play you are already fighting a giant dragon called rathian.
Tutorial is no more then 1:30 hours, 30 min if you are rushing it.
Tutorial is no more then 1:30 hours, 30 min if you are rushing it.
Aaaaah...
I love when people get pissed when someone doesn't agree with them (aiming at the people whining to Yahtzee about how the game "gets better").
I love when people get pissed when someone doesn't agree with them (aiming at the people whining to Yahtzee about how the game "gets better").
Meh. Using the greatswords/hammers/etc. is about timing; it's not that hard to kill even velocidromes/whateverTricallsthem with the bigger weapons once you're used to it.
But if you're really caught between those two options - fast and light versus slow and heavy - a longsword might serve. It's fast-ish, hits as well as the greatsword, and doesn't block anything. You need to be/become good at rolling out of the way to really use a longsword, but it is a good starting weapon.
But if you're really caught between those two options - fast and light versus slow and heavy - a longsword might serve. It's fast-ish, hits as well as the greatsword, and doesn't block anything. You need to be/become good at rolling out of the way to really use a longsword, but it is a good starting weapon.
The sharpness system is basically there to make players upgrade their weapon yes, and to make the game less repetitive(believe it or not), and if you're new to the game its nothing more than huge huge annoyance. When you get used to it(or use things to make the sharpness problem go away) it actually makes the game interesting, and helps you know the passage of time too, since doing a single quest can take up to 40 minutesEdward123454321 said:
I've heard, from a friend whose opinion I trust, that it apparently gets good to the point of you forgiving those 25 hours. I'm not saying start playing it but it is something to keep in mind.Dorkmaster Flek said:
The only time you can say "it gets better later" is if it picks up after the first hour or so.
That's not that much game time, and generally accomodates for the tutorial (unless you're GTA IV) and introduces the story-proper.
Anyway, totally agree with the article - although not the parts about the game itself, I haven't played it.
Oh, and where the hell has Reliable Source gone?!
That's not that much game time, and generally accomodates for the tutorial (unless you're GTA IV) and introduces the story-proper.
Anyway, totally agree with the article - although not the parts about the game itself, I haven't played it.
Escorting Prophet in Crysis didn't suck - in fact, I quite liked that mission.RJ Dalton said:
Oh, and where the hell has Reliable Source gone?!
"Sucking" is a pretty subjective term. I personally enjoyed Bioshock 2's adam gathering thingy, especially on higher difficulty, because I loved exploring the environment I am in and figuring out ways to turn it into a deathtrap, before putting the Little Sister down and seeing all hell break loose for a very suspenseful, all-in 2 minutes. Then you pick her up and she is no longer dead weight. Out of all the implementations of "escort missions" that I've seen, I believe this was the best.RJ Dalton said:
Only problem there is buddy, you don't get a longsword until 3 star quests, and Yahtzee stopped at 1omicron1 said:
I don't understand why people are nit picking what Yahtzee has said. We had 800 replies onto the video, he has made his responce, and thats it. No more Monster Hunter, tomorrow there will be a new game under the microscope, so it's better to forget Monster Hunter now and get on with our lives.
EDIT: On Escorts, I hated BioShock 2's escorts, it was a nice little change from BioShock 1's kill this free ADAM, but, after a while the novelty wore off, and I only did them for the achivement.
EDIT: On Escorts, I hated BioShock 2's escorts, it was a nice little change from BioShock 1's kill this free ADAM, but, after a while the novelty wore off, and I only did them for the achivement.
What do you mean by "helps you know the passage of time" during quests, how does it do that?Krimson Kun said:
I know Yahtzee is good at ranting and usually good at reviewing, but I've never considered what his gaming skills were. I get the impression that Monster Hunter Tri may have taxed his usual perceptions of playing a "tough game". Monster Hunter has always required more effort than most games. Gamers would probably piss off a game that requires you to gather items to make your healing potions, when most games just let you buy them in bulk or regens your health by sitting behind a rock. I've tried the Cabala games once or twice and just didn't get into the idea of checking for deer crap to track a buck.
Yes, there's a 1-2 hour tutorial that goes through the basics of survival in the game. It's like going through boot camp before going out onto the real field of combat. We'd get an equally negative review if the game didn't have the tutorial with Yahtzee complaining that he didn't know now to stock up on potions and whetstones.
And stop selling the stuff you find! You don't even need to sell items in the game for money. In fact, there are items with the sole purpose of being sold and the item description will tell you that. Otherwise, the mission rewards more than cover minor expenses and you should rarely worry about how much money you have. Keep everything because you'll more likely need them for supplies or weapon/armor crafting than for scraping together a few more coins.
Yes, there's a 1-2 hour tutorial that goes through the basics of survival in the game. It's like going through boot camp before going out onto the real field of combat. We'd get an equally negative review if the game didn't have the tutorial with Yahtzee complaining that he didn't know now to stock up on potions and whetstones.
And stop selling the stuff you find! You don't even need to sell items in the game for money. In fact, there are items with the sole purpose of being sold and the item description will tell you that. Otherwise, the mission rewards more than cover minor expenses and you should rarely worry about how much money you have. Keep everything because you'll more likely need them for supplies or weapon/armor crafting than for scraping together a few more coins.
I already thought this game sounded like all the pointless grindy bullcrap you'd find in a Korean MMO like Lineage II (which is way the hell worse than the pointless grindy bullcrap all the other MMos have) welded together without even the slightest pretense of a plot beyond "grind!", but paying to start quests?
Egad. I'm honestly surprised Yahtzee didn't mention that during the Zero Punctuation video - it's one thing to be subjected to fetch quests, but paying for the privilege is just a whole new level of insulting.
Egad. I'm honestly surprised Yahtzee didn't mention that during the Zero Punctuation video - it's one thing to be subjected to fetch quests, but paying for the privilege is just a whole new level of insulting.
No, it really doesn't. FFXIII is a train wreck. At 25 hours in, it gets about 10% as good as FFXII, barely enough to make you pause the game and reminisce on a time when Final Fantasy was still good and you could lose yourself in an open living world. Then it quickly becomes terrible again, kind of mocking you, like, "NAHHHH, we were just kidding, we just sneaked that part in to put some screenshots on the box that would fool people into thinking the game is good. Back to your corridor."manythings said:
"Even if the game is 50 percent poo and 50 percent mind-blowing envelope-pushing extravaganza, that's still mediocre on average."
Trust me, truer words have never been spoken. I mean, BioShock 2 had an incredible ending, probably the best ending I've ever seen. But that didn't matter because the rest of the game was copy/pasted from the first one and while that's not a completely bad thing it made the experience feel stale and repetitive. The ending definitely earned it a lot of points, but not enough to make it as good as the first one.
Trust me, truer words have never been spoken. I mean, BioShock 2 had an incredible ending, probably the best ending I've ever seen. But that didn't matter because the rest of the game was copy/pasted from the first one and while that's not a completely bad thing it made the experience feel stale and repetitive. The ending definitely earned it a lot of points, but not enough to make it as good as the first one.
Actually picking herbs is all you do in wow until you hit the maxlevel and start raiding. Sure some of the herbs aren't herbs but fruits, or chests, of macguffins, or are flags, if you are doing pvp, or are guarded by stronger enemies. If you assume an average new wow-player, he will spend days (<-) doing quests which all consist of gathering "herbs" if you played one hour of wow you have a pretty good idea of what you will be doing until you start raiding.Carnagath said:
I think this is kind of Yzs point. Wow turns into a completly different game, once you start raiding, actually getting to the whole multiplayer-part. If that's not the case with Monster Hunter he has every right to stop afer one hour, or how long he played.
As far as I know about monster hunter, there is a multiplayer, and i tend to sympathise with Yathzee regarding that subject: Most stuff gets better if you do it with other people, even more gets better while doing it with friends. This is not a point in a games favor, it is a point in favor of your socializing skills and therefore is irrelevant to a game critic.
A bit better this time around. 10hrs is a bit of an exaggeration, really it depends on how much time you spend running around doing various random shit vs. how long you spend getting through the missions and such. It does take too long to get to the good parts of the game however, that I won't argue (I myself was just getting ready to toss the game out of the console for good when I finally hit the parts that made me decide to keep playing).
One thing to note - the game really expects you to have more than one person fighting the monster at a time, in single player this comes in the form of Cha-Cha who you get not too long after you go after Great Jaggi for the first time. Having other players or Cha-Cha around give you much better opportunity to run off to the side to sharpen or heal, or attack for that matter.
Of course that doesn't change my central problem with the game - often it feels more like your fighting against the limitations that the game saddles you with (sharpness, slow attacks on most of the weapon types, retardedly long downtime when using an item, etc) than the monsters themselves. Its better when you're online and have several others with you giving you plenty of chance to disengage and perform whatever upkeep you need to, but it doesn't stop it from being annoying.
Overall I have fun with the game now however, and so I continue to play it despite its various flaws.
One thing to note - the game really expects you to have more than one person fighting the monster at a time, in single player this comes in the form of Cha-Cha who you get not too long after you go after Great Jaggi for the first time. Having other players or Cha-Cha around give you much better opportunity to run off to the side to sharpen or heal, or attack for that matter.
Of course that doesn't change my central problem with the game - often it feels more like your fighting against the limitations that the game saddles you with (sharpness, slow attacks on most of the weapon types, retardedly long downtime when using an item, etc) than the monsters themselves. Its better when you're online and have several others with you giving you plenty of chance to disengage and perform whatever upkeep you need to, but it doesn't stop it from being annoying.
Overall I have fun with the game now however, and so I continue to play it despite its various flaws.