Most obvious plot hole.

[smeghead25]

To the guys mentioning Terminator, I can't quote you for some reason, but there is a reason Skynet didn't just send back an army of Terminator's.

It's because they were all sent at the same time. The Resistance had found out about the time travel device from a deactivated Terminator and then launnched a large assault on that base for obvious reasons. As a result only a small number of Terminators were sent through to specific points in time to attempt the assassination of John or Sarah before the Reistance assault reached it. Then Kyle Reese went through and a few other Resistance soldiers before a Terminator managed to destroy the device. Pretty sure S.M. Stirling's books were canon, written before T3 came along and kinda screwed stuff up muchly.

Also, Terminator works off the principle of multiple realities. Skynet knew that it was in trouble and knew that she could create another reality in which she did in fact win if the Terminator's were successful. In another series of books the focus was placed on later in the Machine War and actually had John waging war across multiple realities after beating Skynet in their own. I don't think this series was canon but it was also written before T3 and could still technically be realistic.

 

[Lotet]

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1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.

My issue with that movie is that they spend all this time saying they are after a mineral then blow up the only thing stopping them from getting it yet they completely ignore it to try to wipe out the aliens for no better reason than assholeism.

Just posting because I'm addicted to TVTropes, but:

1: The Corp wasn't a military group, it was simply private contractors made mostly of ex-soldiers. I doubt that they had the ability to attempt orbital bombardment. After all, they seem fairly arrogant, and I doubt the Stockholders would be happy with them packing orbital bombardment weaponry against an enemy armed with bows and arrows.

You don't need weaponry to bombard someone from orbit. They came there on a starship, all they have to do is chuck asteroids at them, with absolute impunity.
It's not even hard, anyone with any decent level of maths ability could do the math, so people that can build and pilot FTL starships could certainly do it.

Jupiter stops asteroids from hitting us. Pandora is a moon of a gas giant, likly no asteroids and good luck trying to pluck one from an asteroid belt (if there is one). they trying to get stuff worth 20 Million per Kilogram, causing massive damage to the place is, well, counter-productive.

spend 5 million in starship fuel and logistics to cause a Billion Trillion dollars worth of damage so you can save 120 million dollars worth of military gear and personel? (numbers pulled out of the air)

 

[Minischoles]

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1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.

My issue with that movie is that they spend all this time saying they are after a mineral then blow up the only thing stopping them from getting it yet they completely ignore it to try to wipe out the aliens for no better reason than assholeism.

Just posting because I'm addicted to TVTropes, but:

1: The Corp wasn't a military group, it was simply private contractors made mostly of ex-soldiers. I doubt that they had the ability to attempt orbital bombardment. After all, they seem fairly arrogant, and I doubt the Stockholders would be happy with them packing orbital bombardment weaponry against an enemy armed with bows and arrows.

You don't need weaponry to bombard someone from orbit. They came there on a starship, all they have to do is chuck asteroids at them, with absolute impunity.
It's not even hard, anyone with any decent level of maths ability could do the math, so people that can build and pilot FTL starships could certainly do it.

Jupiter stops asteroids from hitting us. Pandora is a moon of a gas giant, likly no asteroids and good luck trying to pluck one from an asteroid belt (if there is one). they trying to get stuff worth 20 Million per Kilogram, causing massive damage to the place is, well, counter-productive.

spend 5 million in starship fuel and logistics to cause a Billion Trillion dollars worth of damage so you can save 120 million dollars worth of military gear and personel? (numbers pulled out of the air)

A moon in a gas giant likely means tons of rocks, since around most gas giants, you get a planetary ring (although in some cases it is rather small). And you don't need a huge rock to really mess up someone's day, especially after they all gathered in one spot. You don't even need massive amounts of energy to pluck a rock out and put it into an injection orbit, for any people advanced enough to have starships and FTL, they should know all about orbital dynamics.

Hell even now, people have done the maths that would get asteroids from the asteroid belt injected into stable earth orbits for mining purposes. To say they can't do it is just stupid. You don't need an asteroid big enough to cause an extinction event, you can pretty much rain down small rocks with absolute and utter impunity, wiping out any centre of resistance - broadcast a message telling them 'play nice or daddy wipes out you and your entire species'.

 

[Engarde]

In the original Metal Gear Solid, you get a lecture about how only you can hear the codec, yet later Otacon tells you he overhears Pyscho Mantis' mind control music.

 

[Proverbial Jon]

In the original Metal Gear Solid, you get a lecture about how only you can hear the codec, yet later Otacon tells you he overhears Pyscho Mantis' mind control music.

The codec is MGS's biggest plot hole in my opinion! I mean, look at the amount of time Snake spends talking to these people (There are some HUGE long codec conversations in these games) and sure others might not be able to hear what Snake is hearing... but Snake is still talking himself. How has he not been discovered? Especially since he usually crouches only feet away from enemy sentries and has a nice long chat. *Brain implodes*

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1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.

I think it's easy to miss the overall story that's going on in this movie... mostly because it isn't explained very well. I love Avatar, it's one of my favourite movies, but not because it's a good movie.

The humans are on Pandora to mine for Unobtanium (Read: convenient plot device) the RDA is a private company and they employ ex marines to form a sort of militarised security division. Parker Selfridge seems to be in charge on Pandora and although he's ruthless, I think there is some regret for his actions, simply bombing the Navi was never his idea and he was reluctant to accept it. Colonel "coffee cup" Quarritch however, obviously has some god complex and has taken offence to the Navi's very existence on Pandora. He is the one who finally takes over and decides that the Navi need to be completely wiped out, reasoning his decision by saying they are still a threat. Chances are, if they had stayed put at Hell's Gate, the Navi would not have been able to launch a counter attack. It was only in his extreme arrogance that he led his troops into the flux vortex and to their ultimate downfall.

I'm not denying the presence of plot holes in this movie (there are many) but let's not get too carried away thinking that the main purpose of the RDA was to completely obliterate the Navi. The "company" merely wanted to get the Unobtanium, the Navi were just an obstacle to them. It was only the actions of one particularly unhinged individual that truly lead to the destruction of Hometree and the murderous battle that ensued after.

 

[Dodgy]

Need I even bother mention Transformers 2?

There can't be plot holes as there wasn't a plot.

 

[Jesus Phish]

LOTR..the Giant Eagle Race could just fly someone with the ring right into Mordor, into mount doom and drop off the ring. completely bypassing hours of unnecessary bother.

I hear this one a lot. It is worth noting that
A): The Ring Wraiths are always after it, and apparently have dragon creatures on demand. Why do they start by riding around on horses?, no fucking idea
B): Mordor is well guarded, they had to create a huge distraction just to get Frodo and Sam through

Horses are easier to get through woods on would be my guess.

 

[General_Potatoes]

Spoiler

when frank west in Dead Rising, get's infected

lol yeah that was pretty pointless.

 

[RowdyRodimus]

Goldline and all those other companies selling gold right now. They all tell you that the dollar is worthless and will be gone in no time, yet they are willing to give you the only true thing worth anything in exchange for your worthless money.

 

[captaincabbage]

Need I even bother mention Transformers 2?

There can't be plot holes as there wasn't a plot.

Touche, good sir ^^

 

[DazBurger]

LOTR..the Giant Eagle Race could just fly someone with the ring right into Mordor, into mount doom and drop off the ring. completely bypassing hours of unnecessary bother.

I guess the bird was sleeping when they began their journey?
Or perhaps Gandalf thought it would be too easy... Crazy old man.

 

[Bihac]

Spoiler: Halo Reach

Ok, so what...Cortana was made by the Forerunners? What? I mean, I guess that explains how the Autumn's random jump lead them to the Halo(it was random, right?), but I thought she has no idea what the Halos are! Even once she's plugged into it's computer system it takes her a while to figure it out! Well, how does that work? And one other thing! When she's given to Noble team, you see that she's about twice the size of a soda can. Yet when Master Chief recieves her (mere hours after you give her to Keys) she fits in the back of his head! WELL, HOW DOES THAT WORK??!!

Spoiler: It's just a...

It's just a protective canister around, the same... holographic computer chip thing.

 

[D Moness]

Spoiler: Terminator

Why trust just ONE terminator to do the job. She barley killed one so just send in 5 or 6 to do the job better. And why not kill Sarah when she is no threat at all. A.K.A. When she's 5! There are so many point to exploit.

How about this? By stopping Judgment Day in T2, wouldn't this prevent John Connor from even existing? And if he still existed, wouldn't they realize that their effort to stop Judgment Day didn't work?

You assume time is dynamic. What could happen is an alternate time line is created when something in the past is changed, leaving the original future untouched.

i see a head ache inducing argument coming >.> ... time travel dose that to me at least

Going the back to the future explanation to time travel. I always preferred that one. But it means that when they did save the world the timeline moved from the original. It can not "overwrite"the future timeline since if it happens Kyle Reese would never be send back. Or maybe the timeline can stay alive due to time paradox >.<.

 

[Gutkrusha]

Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever

The FBI - an organization intended to work within the United States - is somehow working in Vancouver, Canada.

1. Crap movie that was the basis of the two best fps' on the Game Boy Advance = crappy plot filled with holes

2. In film even when called Vancouver in dialog Vancouver = Seattle

Vancouver is in southern Washington, not Seattle.

 

[aarontg]

I recently played dead rising 2 and I suddenly thought: how are these people getting from one side of the mall to the other? You go through hell to just get from place to place but it seems like everyone else can just teleport.

 

[That_Swedish_Guy]

Star Wars Episode 2:

If the jedi aren't allowed to love, why were two obviously consenting 19-to-20-something-year-olds sent on an all expenses paid vacation to the planet-o-love?

I think Plinkett had far more material there than he actually used.

This itself is a plot hole, because the Force is supposed to run strong in certain bloodlines (said by both Yoda and Obi-Wan in the original trilogy) and it is important for families with strong ties to the force to pass on their knowledge, then all of the sudden the Jedi have this Catholic Priest complex that they aren't supposed to marry? Yeah, the idea that there is some semblance of continuity between the original series and the prequel trilogy is silly.

Original series had no problem with ignoring continuity and then making stuff up later. *Cough* Vader killed your father. *Cough* Why can't the prequels do the same? Not to mention all the other stuff that just doesn't make sense, 1 man plots millions of people against each other destroys the jedi order and forgets that a few laser blasts from the outside makes their planet destroyer explode? Vader goes past the point of no return then returns from the point of no return? Why can't the ghost jedi's do anything if they were made more powerful than before? Reminders to use the force is tape recorder power. Why is there no DNA protection so that someone other than a clone will be noticed if they're walking around as storm troopers? Isn't the emperor the most powerful sith to ever live at that point? Why couldn't he find luke?

Hell the whole Death Star itself wasn't really the brightest idea. when your star fleet already has a strangle hold on the galaxy but is being pestered by guerilla tactics, why commit so much resource and man power on a single massive slow moving battle station that's going to instantly have a huge target painted on it every resistance force? What strategic use is there in completely blowing up a planet when an orbital bombardment would get the same message across? I mean I guess if you're an evil emperor it would be a cool toy to build, but in the long run the Empire eventually lost because the big toy they didn't really need became a rally point for the rebellion to strike a critical blow.

You sir, just won a cookie.

 

[Wicky_42]

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1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.

Couple of answers to your questions are available on the official site.
1) Orbital weaponry is banned from use by the corporation's interstellar exploitation contract - they're not allowed to sail over the galaxy nuking shit

2) Did you see any tanks? Again, the military hardware available to the Corp was probably limited not only by the contract but also because everything they used they had to make, and there are technical limitations on what you can make on an alien world without the high-tech infrastructure back on Earth. I think they have 1 nano-fabricator plant, but they can't make advanced electronics - those have to be shipped over every 6 years or so.

3) The whole 'going through glass' thing I would say is more to do with the draw on the bow than the pointiness of the stick - those bows are huge, when you think about it. Plus, alien wood

4)Maybe you missed the film's subtle hints that nature was the good guy

The real plot hole was how Jake never did bother doing his mission.

My issue with that movie is that they spend all this time saying they are after a mineral then blow up the only thing stopping them from getting it yet they completely ignore it to try to wipe out the aliens for no better reason than assholeism.

Actually, it was Jake rallying the tribes to a single spot nearby that got the military all riled up - the corporation decided it had to do a first-strike to avoid being over-run. Yes, Jake sucks at diplomacy.

 

[Amyler]

Oh my god, in before FF7 Areis' dieing. =o

 

[TP Potatosalad]

Mass Effect 2 (Spoliers):

I thought that the Reapers removed all evidence before they went back into dark space to make sure no one discovered their existence. Yet in Mass Effect 2 you visit a derelict Reaper just floating next to a planet that the other Reapers apparantly decided to leave there, that seems like a pretty big clue. Maybe the Reapers just don't to roll call before they go back through the relay.

 

[RYjet911]

LOTR..the Giant Eagle Race could just fly someone with the ring right into Mordor, into mount doom and drop off the ring. completely bypassing hours of unnecessary bother.

Yes, because the giant floating all seeing eye in the sky wouldn't see a group of people and army of birds flying right at his country...

and not have time to prepare a completely devastating aerial assault.


The point of the entire books (which they screwed up royally) was that they were supposed to be discreet.

Why doesn't it just see the group then? One extra bird to fly them there is hardly any less discreet. In fact, the lack of commotion caused by them bypassing all sorts of ground-based obstacles would make them LESS discreet...

Three movies of walking reduced to one movie of flight.