New "Game" Encourages Secret Police-Style Spying

Labyrinth

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chris11246 said:
Why not make it so that people cant view cameras from their area, not by what they say but use their ip address to figure out they're location, and they cant choose which area they view. Also you could make it so that anyone who posts videos off the site can be banned from it so that people cant access every camera or use them to follow people or watch for people.(if someone posts a video you could tell by looking at the time and place of the video and checking who was watching that camera.)
For the same reason that IPs don't always work to trace. Proxies.
 

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I hope the Brits have enjoyed their democracy while they've had it, couse I don't think it's gonna stay there much longer...
 
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Malygris said:
Source: Daily Mail [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1218225/Internet-game-awards-points-people-spotting-crimes-CCTV-cameras-branded-snoopers-paradise.html]
That bit worries me the most.

The rest is all just hype for a game that will produce thousands of false reports before collapsing to apathy.
 

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Glefistus said:
As with all news out of Britain nowadays, lol, shithole (no offense Englanders, but that is how your nation comes off to me).
Didn't you once get in a flame-war over the same thing? Like, before this thread? Long time ago. There was talk about these people called cube-heads, you linked to some... Conspirator site... It was some kind of flame-war.
 

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Doesn't sound so bad... easy money and you're pointing out people stupid enough to commit crimes infront of a bloody camera.

Xorghul said:
I hope the Brits have enjoyed their democracy while they've had it, couse I don't think it's gonna stay there much longer...
Yes, how shall Democracy survive cameras?!
I mean, it's not like Democracy is about voting not cameras.

Malygris said:
On the other hand, maybe "appalling" isn't strong enough.
The cameras are already there, I don't see how this is so terrible.
 

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There's nothing wrong with cameras on the street, i'd be more concerned if they were in toilet stalls or something.

considering i had 3 different groups of people try to start a fight on me just trying to walk what should have been 30 minutes home, i think its a pretty decent idea, especially as it just means that cameras that are already there are now being used rather than sat there wasting money.

edit: i've just looked at the site. there is no way you could use this to stalk someone, seeing as you get shown 4 random cameras out of 4.2 million (the numbers are a good thing here)

most people who are complaining haven't even seen the site or read about how it works. its not each crime reported gets you money, its like the lottery.

seriously guys, look stuff up before you complain. most of you guys have seen the words "public" "viewing" "cameras" and gone insane over it, calling it fascist and wrong. i'd suggest you rethink your answers after you've looked at something as brief as their FAQ.
 

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Hey everybody!

Today's lesson will be on how to exploit the shit out of OCTV (not CCTV, closed circuit would not be viewable by general public) scam like this.

First, you are going to need a friend who watches the feed and few supplies:
- A large brim thin material hat stuffed in a pocket.
- A balaclava (roll it up so it looks like a took/head cap).
- A baggy jacket that is a different color if turned inside out.
- A pair of cheap pull away pants with another pair of a different color underneath.
- A pair of fingerless/thin gloves with grip with latex disposable gloves underneath.
- A pair of cheap wrap around sunglasses.
- A pair of disposable carpet saver booties drawn on with a felt marker (use spray paint and template if you are feeling fancy) to look like whatever sneakers you like - I suggest a pair of shoes/steel toed boots you are comfortable running in underneath.
- A empty disposable gym bag underneath the jacket.

Note: If you think you are going to have to toss your disguise afterwards, I highly suggest the use of body grooming, a shower with a different shampoo than you normally use, a hairnet, and a heavy cologne/perfume on the disposable clothing. Prepare the bag with a quick burn (I suggest paper match heads and common lighter fluid - don't start any big fires!) and vinegar/bleach/H202 package.

Special Note: There are even more options for changing ones appearance quickly while moving through an urban area, alternatives and extras to what I suggest are purely up to the confidence of the person disguising them self in their use of such things as makeup, dyes, and costume design. Also consider using a different kind of stride in your walk, various weight distributions with sand/water bags, impression of height with lifts and facial bone structure with hardened points in your mask from one disguise to the neck. Other useful skills for this endeavor might be climbing and parkour.

Hopefully you are catching on at this point. Now, after practicing changing your appearance rapidly and recognizing how to spot places that a quick change can be accomplished, establish communications with your Internet Eyes pal - don't use a cell phone or use a disposable. He should use something like google earth to identify the position of his camera and relay this info to you. Then proceed to your target and pause a moment to figure out with your friend what blind spots exist for all cameras and people in the area. Leave the area and change your appearance, return, perform your "crime" to be reported, the severity of the crime is up to you but I suggest a misdemeanor of some sort just in case you get caught when Mr. Murphy shows up. Though if you feel up to the task, make it something for cash that you can pay the Internet Eyes service with to insure you "win". So, leave the area and once in an area you are confident does not have any eyes on it, change disguises and go on your merry way to await your "gift" from your Internet Eyes friend.

And if Internet Eyes requires that the person being reported actually get caught and convicted for the crime, setup a patsy to do the petty crimes, preferably some schmuck you can't stand but don't know personally. A few appropriately untraceable anonymous notes (disposable cell phone text messages some distance from your home base perhaps) with proper motivation on them should do the trick.

Hey, why leave things up to chance, right?

- This post brought to from the mind of a Shadowrun 4A fan. Don't just embrace Big Brother (gawd, I hate that tv show), fuck with him and cost him valuable time and resources. And start a public relations campaign against him too.
 

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Labyrinth said:
chris11246 said:
Why not make it so that people cant view cameras from their area, not by what they say but use their ip address to figure out they're location, and they cant choose which area they view. Also you could make it so that anyone who posts videos off the site can be banned from it so that people cant access every camera or use them to follow people or watch for people.(if someone posts a video you could tell by looking at the time and place of the video and checking who was watching that camera.)
For the same reason that IPs don't always work to trace. Proxies.
isnt there a way to detect if someone is using a proxy and then just not allow them.
 

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Oh no!
Now I'll have to pick my nose, scratch my balls, strip down naked, masturbate, cheat on my wife and commit illegal acts in non public areas... Otherwise I may be seen by someone watching a camera, which as we all know is much worse than being seen by a real person.

Invasion of privacy doesn't apply when you are in a public place... public being the opposite of private.
 

Labyrinth

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chris11246 said:
isnt there a way to detect if someone is using a proxy and then just not allow them.
Even if you do, they can change. It's a right pain in the arse to try and manage.
 

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Well, this would be very illegal in my country. I also don't really see the appeal of simulating what's basically the least exciting part about being a security guard: having to look at monitors while nothing's happening there.
 

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Malygris said:
"I wanted to combine the serious business of stopping crime with the incentive of winning money." Morgan said.
Like bounty hunters?

"This could turn out to be the best crime prevention weapon there's ever been," Morgan said.
Like bounty hunters!!!!
 

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Am I the only one who thinks this is going to be pretty damn handy? I mean, if you're not doing anything wrong, you're not going to get done over or anything are you?

Glefistus said:
As with all news out of Britain nowadays, lol, shithole (no offense Englanders, but that is how your nation comes off to me).
Do you live in England? No? Then be quiet. You don't see me mouthing off Canada.
 

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CaptainCrunch said:
Was there a government-engineered plague I haven't heard about yet, to necessitate such monitoring? Countdown to Fingermen and a chancellor starts now.

Also, if they are successful I can see this type of "game" being implemented in the US - patrolling the Mexican border. Countdown to poopsocking racists begins now.
Since I'm sure googling will haunt my dreams...what...is...poopsocking?

Sonicron said:
Jesus Christ on a crutch! What the fuck is the world coming to?!
The Holiday Shopping season...well ok...not the whole world...but the part I'm in ;).
 

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Apparently very few people have actually gone to the website and read up on it, even those of you fellow Escapists who have signed up have apparently not read the website before signing up.

It is NOT a game. The website doesn't even advertise itself as a game. I don't know where the author of this Escapist article saw that it was a game, but IT'S NOT!! It says it's merely a contest.

You do NOT get paid to sit and watch video footage! It's a monthly contest and only one person can win any money each month.

It's not even a form of lottery, because at least in a lottery a ticket holder has a small chance of winning....buy more tickets and you increase your chance. Instead, free viewers only get 3, count them, 1...2...3... reports they can use each month. The person with the most reports wins. In order to be able to report more than 3 crimes, a viewer has to pay this company money for more report chances.

In other words, you have to pay this company money to even have a chance at winning the contest. A FREE VIEWER WILL NEVER WIN IF THERE ARE OTHER VIEWERS PAYING!

So I laugh at you people who have already signed up and intend on "playing" this "game". You will be wasting your time unless you pay Internet Eyes some money, in which case YOU are paying THEM to do THEIR JOB!

Sheesh, does no one even bother looking into stuff anymore these days?