wait seriously where do i get one of those?lvl9000_woot said:Damnit.veloper said:Also this.WrongSprite said:People can spend less than 2 hours in front of a computer a day?
Christ on a bike.
The good thing is: if you got a desk job, whatever else you don't do, won't matter anymore apparently.
I work a desk job. 8 hours in front of a computer.
Guess I better buy one of these:
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Lol. My captcha was Toyota Care and I drive one and had a flat tire today. IRONY!
I wasn't debating that. I didn't say statistics can't be misleading or misused. If even a pure mathematical proof can be misused and misinterpreted, what to say about statistics, which is founded on inductive (and hence intrinsically risky) reasoning?geldonyetich said:True, statistic findings are quite popular in this day and age, but there's actually a whole lot that can go wrong with it [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_of_statistics#Types_of_misuse]. Though it only takes one of those things to make the way this news story is being presented to be an exaggeration: correlation does not imply causation [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation]. Because all statistics are is correlations, no true scientist would attempt to use statistics to imply there is an underlying cause at work. To say, "sitting around on your butt causes you to die young," is scientifically unsound. At most, they may use statistics as a basis to spin hypotheses, "sitting around on your butt has a statistical correlation that suggests a likelihood it may cause you to die young, so lets run some experiments and see if we can establish if that's true." The news agencies don't see the difference, however, and neither do the majority of their viewers, so hey, big scoop!tautologico said:Really? Then I guess you should get out of the Internet, stop using phones and basically almost any piece of modern technology. Almost anything you use nowadays has had statistical techniques applied into their making at some point.
This is our expectation. It doesn't need to be true. I'm not saying this study is true, either. I'm just saying maybe the finding has merit. Many scientific discoveries run contrary to what people expected at the time.geldonyetich said:Personally, I think any study that claims, "it doesn't matter if you exercise, you're 50% likelier to die if you use a computer x hours a day" is massively poorly conducted. Of course regular exercise helps, any amount of exercise, no matter what your lifestyle - it's stupid to suggest otherwise, and it's pretty likely that your exercising or not is going to be a factor on which side of the 50% you land on.
There are statistical techniques to isolate factors like that. I didn't see the data for the study, but it's not hard to do. So you can't say they didn't consider that. Maybe they did not, but maybe they did (and a serious study wouldn't be accepted if they didn't).geldonyetich said:Further, they completely cut out vital factors of what kind of exercise, diet, ect.
I was thinking this too o.o Bit vague. It's not like 150% of eventual death is worse than 100% of eventual death. If it can't get any better than 100% chance of death then there's no real concern, right? n.nPararaptor said:150% probability of death? Urk!Greg Tito said:And those that spent 4 or more hours were 50 percent more likely to die of any cause.
Wait... does that include old age?Greg Tito said:And those that spent 4 or more hours were 50 percent more likely to die of any cause.