Admittedly, it's a little worrying, but I doubt it will affect you in any way if you behave yourself.Crono1973 said:I am not a pirate but I am upset about Nintendo having that ability, it is another factor to keep me away from it. After all, when Sony removed OtherOS, did it only upset the pirates? I have a HP monitor, sure wouldn't like it if HP could kill it remotely even if the likelihood of that happening is low. Wouldn't want Ford to be able to remotely kill my car either, does that make me a car thief?Balobo said:But that stance is so negative and pessimistic. Being neutral seems to be the way to go.Crono1973 said:That boat is too crowded. I think the 3DS will fail, if I am wrong then I am wrong. There are also other issues like Nintendo being able to brick your 3DS remotely or something. Is that true? If it is then you know that is holding some people back too.Balobo said:People aren't running out and buying them because it was released in the middle of the year (no holiday sales), had a highish price, and, in Japan's case, was released in the midst of a natural disaster. You should probably just be on the "wait and see" boat versus being on the "oh it's obviously going to fail no matter what" boat. If it doesn't start selling by the holidays then you should switch boats.Crono1973 said:I don't know, the 3D gimmick isn't exactly making people run out and buy them and that is it's major feature. What good is a feature that some people can't even see and that gives alot of people a headache making for short gaming sessions in 3D.Balobo said:Doubt 3DS is going to fail.Crono1973 said:It's like Nintendo want us to regret purchasing the Wii. One day they will be back on the bottom and this shit will be part of the reason why. I hope the WiiU fails just like the 3DS will. I used to love Nintendo but there is only so much any fan can take.
The people who are upset about Nintendo's ability to brick your system remotely are pirates, a.k.a. undesirables. Companies usually don't give a shit about their feelings as the pirates don't give a shit about the company's.
It's worth mentioning that the Wii was released in time for the holiday rush.Crono1973 said:The Wii was a success from the get go. Remember that the stores were always sold out for the first couple of years of the Wii's life. So I guess I am wondering why you ever thought the Wii was a failure?
The 3DS, on the other hand is not flying off the shelves and Nintendo has admitted it isn't selling as well as they would like. Also, Nintendo USES it's gimmicks. Even though alot of people hated motion controls it didn't stop Nintendo from forcing them into most of their high profile games. The DS as well, the love throwing in stylus control and yelling into the mic, no matter how much gamers disliked it. No, they will not abandon the 3D part of the 3DS. Third party devs might but Nintendo won't.
Nintendo should try it again, then. See if the consumers back their mouths with their money, or if they were just screwing around. That way, if fans beg for it again in the future, Nintendo can point to the failure and say, "We tried to give you what you wanted, you obviously didn't really want it. So yeah, screw off."Aiddon said:Because gamers, despite saying they WOULD support said titles, will inevitably find excuses to chicken out of buying them hoping that someone else will pick up the slack for them, proving that gamers are little more than a bunch of whiny, hypocritical, gutless, meek crybabies who don't deserve nice things.Kopikatsu said:Why does Nintendo hate money?
Maybe they got sick of watching their consoles print it. IS THAT WHY YOU HATE MONEY, NINTENDO? BECAUSE YOU HAVE TOO MUCH OF IT?
If so, I'll gladly sacrifice myself and take some of that money off your hands. Aren't I selfless?
I'm saying this a second time, because apparently people didn't hear me the first time.itsmeyouidiot said:Yet another example of The Escapist resorting to scare journalism to gather views.
Nintendo didn't say they wouldn't localize the games. They said that they might localize the games in the future, but they don't have any plans now.
Now quit being such fucking bad journalists and actually take quotes for what they mean.
Read the quote from the Facebook page. They never said they "Might" localize games. They said they have no plans for it now and hinted that they would most likely not in the future. Given their history, that's not a big stretch (see also: Mother 3). Before you accuse good writers of using scare tactics, look at the facts and see if their conclusions make sense. When they do, stop yourself from appearing like a jerk by quoting yourself to get a message across with which no one else agrees. (Not trying to be rude, for I obviously have nothing personal against you, but it does seem odd you would feel a need to quote yourself...)itsmeyouidiot said:I'm saying this a second time, because apparently people didn't hear me the first time.itsmeyouidiot said:Yet another example of The Escapist resorting to scare journalism to gather views.
Nintendo didn't say they wouldn't localize the games. They said that they might localize the games in the future, but they don't have any plans now.
Now quit being such fucking bad journalists and actually take quotes for what they mean.
It's apparently already translated to English for release in the UK, which makes it even worse.Falcon123 said:So let me get this straight: Nintendo has gotten beaten up by hardcore gamers for several years now for below average games and gimmicky controls that did little to advance the gaming world. Nintendo has made games such as Xenoblade and Last Story that are known as being great games that would increase Nintendo's reputation with gamers in other parts of the world. North America, which has to be at least the second largest, if not the largest market Nintendo has, wants these games, to the point that they launched a campaign to make one of them the most preordered game on Amazon. All Nintendo would have to do is translate the already completed and critically acclaimed games into English and North American gamers would be ecstatic and Nintendo would make more money on a property they already know will do well. And Nintendo looks at all of this...and decides to give North American gamers the middle finger.
This makes no sense to me from a PR perspective or a business perspective. It was handled without grace or class, and phrased in a way to get people excited only to have them get let down. And they would definitively make money from the deal. What am I missing here?
In all seriousness, stuff like this makes me want to break my Wii with a Sledgehammer (well, that, and the failure that is the Conduit that my friend recently lent to me. Last time I trust him on a game EVER)
...and didn't slow down after the holiday season.Balobo said:Admittedly, it's a little worrying, but I doubt it will affect you in any way if you behave yourself.Crono1973 said:I am not a pirate but I am upset about Nintendo having that ability, it is another factor to keep me away from it. After all, when Sony removed OtherOS, did it only upset the pirates? I have a HP monitor, sure wouldn't like it if HP could kill it remotely even if the likelihood of that happening is low. Wouldn't want Ford to be able to remotely kill my car either, does that make me a car thief?Balobo said:But that stance is so negative and pessimistic. Being neutral seems to be the way to go.Crono1973 said:That boat is too crowded. I think the 3DS will fail, if I am wrong then I am wrong. There are also other issues like Nintendo being able to brick your 3DS remotely or something. Is that true? If it is then you know that is holding some people back too.Balobo said:People aren't running out and buying them because it was released in the middle of the year (no holiday sales), had a highish price, and, in Japan's case, was released in the midst of a natural disaster. You should probably just be on the "wait and see" boat versus being on the "oh it's obviously going to fail no matter what" boat. If it doesn't start selling by the holidays then you should switch boats.Crono1973 said:I don't know, the 3D gimmick isn't exactly making people run out and buy them and that is it's major feature. What good is a feature that some people can't even see and that gives alot of people a headache making for short gaming sessions in 3D.Balobo said:Doubt 3DS is going to fail.Crono1973 said:It's like Nintendo want us to regret purchasing the Wii. One day they will be back on the bottom and this shit will be part of the reason why. I hope the WiiU fails just like the 3DS will. I used to love Nintendo but there is only so much any fan can take.
The people who are upset about Nintendo's ability to brick your system remotely are pirates, a.k.a. undesirables. Companies usually don't give a shit about their feelings as the pirates don't give a shit about the company's.
It's worth mentioning that the Wii was released in time for the holiday rush.Crono1973 said:The Wii was a success from the get go. Remember that the stores were always sold out for the first couple of years of the Wii's life. So I guess I am wondering why you ever thought the Wii was a failure?
The 3DS, on the other hand is not flying off the shelves and Nintendo has admitted it isn't selling as well as they would like. Also, Nintendo USES it's gimmicks. Even though alot of people hated motion controls it didn't stop Nintendo from forcing them into most of their high profile games. The DS as well, the love throwing in stylus control and yelling into the mic, no matter how much gamers disliked it. No, they will not abandon the 3D part of the 3DS. Third party devs might but Nintendo won't.
Not true with Nintendo, not true at all. We see this kind of thing said a lot and that gamers wouldn't buy the games even if they WERE released anyway and neither is strictly true at all. In this case the cost of localisation is already done for the EU(UK)so just what risk would there be for Ninty of America? Another thing to remember is the list of other games we saw in the UK from them that the US hasn't-the obvious one being DisasteroC which only failed to appear in the US because Reggie didn't like it or it's audio! It came out in English for the UK even without advertising or being stocked everywhere so why are Ninty EU happy to do this while the US isn't>? The EU has a t5on of languages to cope with and includes both languages the US would need most AND the two for Canada! What's the issue here unless, like before, it's someone at Ninty US that simply doesn't think these games will appeal to ANY US gamer as they don't fancy them themselves.GrungyMunchy said:Yeah, they really must hate money. They're not even a company or anything.
If they're not releasing the game in America they must have a REALLY good reason for it, i.e. market studies showing the games won't sell shit. Especially given that they already have the English version made.
So yeah, the only reason you won't see the games released in the US is because you won't buy them.