No 'Him' or 'Her' in Preschool. Wait, what?
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I think girls had nothing else to go on. Just the fact that Cinderella was able to do ANYTHING was amazing back then, lol. A girl thats IMPORTANT, somewhat? Holy shit!cobra_ky said:
Perhaps they would do better with the story of Natasha and Baba Yaga. She tricks the shit out of that witch and kicks her ass (fairytale-wise). Im going to tell that story to my kid.
Looking forward to the all of the generations that will not only be saving for college tuition, but also psychiatry bills.
I understand wanting one's children to be educated and good people, but if they're not allowed to be kids, it's going to be for naught when they become stressed-out paranoid lemmings.
I understand wanting one's children to be educated and good people, but if they're not allowed to be kids, it's going to be for naught when they become stressed-out paranoid lemmings.
I think OP is enforcing gender stereotypes. I don't see the harm in what the school is doing. A kid doesn't need gender shoved down their throat before they turn 7. Let the parents buy the girls a shitload of ugly pink clothes and adorn the boys' walls with gaudy sports-related crap after they turn 7.Oathy said:
(1) "Evil stepmother." "Evil Stepsister." "Glass slipper."
(2) You've taken an arbitrary term and determined it to be real, and decided that another is not. It is not so because you say it isn't.
Do you really think kids should be so concerned with defining themselves by their genitals when they aren't even 1/3 of the way to understanding sexuality?
A lot of good ideas here, and a lot of misplaced good intentions.
To be honest, I think it'd be interesting if all of society stopped using he/she. Get across the idea of one single species better. I mean, speaking objectively, how would it seem if there were four pronouns, a different one for black males and a different one for black females. It would just seem strange and unnatural, no?
So it's interesting. I don't think convincing preschoolers that that's how it works is the way to go about it, but meh.
We definitely could do with more modern fairy tales.
Something to do with a princess obsessed with superficial beauty who ends up being satisfied with how she looks would go down very well in a society than can have dangerous expectations of women.
To be honest, I think it'd be interesting if all of society stopped using he/she. Get across the idea of one single species better. I mean, speaking objectively, how would it seem if there were four pronouns, a different one for black males and a different one for black females. It would just seem strange and unnatural, no?
So it's interesting. I don't think convincing preschoolers that that's how it works is the way to go about it, but meh.
We definitely could do with more modern fairy tales.
Something to do with a princess obsessed with superficial beauty who ends up being satisfied with how she looks would go down very well in a society than can have dangerous expectations of women.
it seems that this will be a reality soon
yes it's getting this bad
i saw on the 7pm project that the kids called each other 'Friend' instead i would hate to see someone explained getting bullied
'My Friend just Punched me in the face'
what would a teacher say back to that
'it was a Friendly Punch!!!'
yes it's getting this bad
i saw on the 7pm project that the kids called each other 'Friend' instead i would hate to see someone explained getting bullied
'My Friend just Punched me in the face'
what would a teacher say back to that
'it was a Friendly Punch!!!'
Little boy notices little girl is different. Coz I'm assuming they either have different gendered toilets or they all go together.Snowy Rainbow said:
I think Rush said it well when they said "I think its time for us to recognise the differences we sometimes feared to show" (Entre nous from the Permanent Waves album). This appears to be trying to make everyone think that there is no difference from one person to the next, but it is these differences that make people interesting, unique, and makes the world a good place to live in.
I most certainly applaud this preschool for actually making a concerted effort to do what they're doing. I'm not entirely sure it's such a good thing that "Nearly all the children's books deal with homosexual couples, single parents or adopted children," but to me that's far better than none of them being about those things. Also, screw traditional fairy tales. Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty are quite possibly the worst role models you could give a child and do almost nothing but reinforce gender stereotypes.
Can't say I'm too fond of the whole abolition of him/her. That seems like it's ignoring a pretty prominent part of what it means to be a person.
Can't say I'm too fond of the whole abolition of him/her. That seems like it's ignoring a pretty prominent part of what it means to be a person.
Great... escapist delivers again. Read that article this morning and was hoping for a some place whit atleast semi intelligent discussion about it so I could throw in my 2 cents <3 So here it goes:
While I think its great to teach kids to be tolerant of gays etc. I think totally ignoring gender roles in preschool is pretty stupid as gender roles still play a big part in the society as they always have and most likely will as long as humanity exists. Meh I had something clever to say but forgot the moment i started writing... always happens to me :S
While I think its great to teach kids to be tolerant of gays etc. I think totally ignoring gender roles in preschool is pretty stupid as gender roles still play a big part in the society as they always have and most likely will as long as humanity exists. Meh I had something clever to say but forgot the moment i started writing... always happens to me :S
I really don't understand why people think equality should mean "We're all the same." In my opinion, equality should be the promotion of the idea that we're all different, but are to be treated equally.
Acknowledging and embracing our differences, as man from woman or gay from straight etc., seems like a much better way of dealing with the problems that can come from them instead of insisting that everyone is the same, which clearly isn't true.
Acknowledging and embracing our differences, as man from woman or gay from straight etc., seems like a much better way of dealing with the problems that can come from them instead of insisting that everyone is the same, which clearly isn't true.
This is ridiculous, they aren't trying to get rid of stereotypes, it sounds more like they are trying to get rid of the concept of gender entirely. They aren't just trying to not build up traditional gender roles, they are trying to remove even the idea of them. They are trying to ignore the fact that the minds of girls and boys are typically just different. I can understand where their intentions are, but this is just madness. Men and Women can and should be equal, but its kind of fucked up trying to make them one and the same.
it's making a choice for the child. No matter how you raise a child, you're constantly making dozens, if not hundreds of decisions for them.WoodenPlanck said:
Oh sure, Cinderella may have been incredibly progressive for its time, but that time has long since passed.Flauros said:
I'm not familiar with that particular Baba Yaga story.
I agree my mom babysits so I have children around all the time and alot of these role type mind sets do start at a very young age however I do think that encouraging a child to see no bariers between genders is a important thing. It is not a good thing if a children see things that girls do and things boys doSneaky Paladin said:
If something looks this stupid, chances are its down to the slant the organisation reporting on it have decided to take. I can't say I support everything that's mentioned there, but if you actually went on a visit to that school the impression you came away with would probably be completely different to the one the article is trying to give you.
We're all different. There are gender differences, though they don't always apply to EVERY SINGLE PERSON out there. As such that should be explained. If this is equality...Eeeh. I mean I'm all for equal rights and such, but this is taking it a tad too far.
As to the fairy tales thing...Have we all at least considered that maybe, just maybe, a preschooler won't actually look at any sexist theme that is inherent in the story? Maybe they'd just enjoy the story as what it is? You know, a fairy tale? Think we should have a bit more faith in kids.
As to the fairy tales thing...Have we all at least considered that maybe, just maybe, a preschooler won't actually look at any sexist theme that is inherent in the story? Maybe they'd just enjoy the story as what it is? You know, a fairy tale? Think we should have a bit more faith in kids.
