Exactly. With what they want to do, by essentially eliminating all explanation of difference there's going to be some severe confusion come the sex education years. "did 'hen' (seriously, what's up with that?) chop off his willy? What's a vagina?'Deschamps said:Equality and tolerance should be achieved through education, not ignorance.
I might be stating the obvious but one gender has dangly bits and the other doesn't.Snowy Rainbow said:What does gender have to do with sex organ?The_root_of_all_evil said:Little boy notices little girl is different. Coz I'm assuming they either have different gendered toilets or they all go together.Snowy Rainbow said:What? I don't get it...The_root_of_all_evil said:"What happened to your pee-pee?"
That is all.
Sex =/= gender.Ickorus said:No offence but read what you just said, it's fairly self-explanatory.Snowy Rainbow said:What does gender have to do with sex organ?The_root_of_all_evil said:Little boy notices little girl is different. Coz I'm assuming they either have different gendered toilets or they all go together.Snowy Rainbow said:What? I don't get it...The_root_of_all_evil said:"What happened to your pee-pee?"
That is all.
What he's getting at as far as I can tell is that kids are going to notice they're difference pretty fast, they aren't stupid.
What they mean is that sex and gender aren't the same. Your gender can be male and your sex female, or vice-versa, or you can have no gender and have one sex, or you can be intersex, etc.Ickorus said:No offence but read what you just said, it's fairly self-explanatory.Snowy Rainbow said:What does gender have to do with sex organ?
"Egalia doesn't deny the biological differences between boys and girls ? the dolls the children play with are anatomically correct."binnsyboy said:Exactly. With what they want to do, by essentially eliminating all explanation of difference there's going to be some severe confusion come the sex education years. "did 'hen' (seriously, what's up with that?) chop off his willy? What's a vagina?'Deschamps said:Equality and tolerance should be achieved through education, not ignorance.
Seems like rather than teach that people should accept differences, people are taking the easy route by trying phase them out and thus mess with the child's basic understanding of the world.
That's not what I meant. I just mean the whole gender eliminating words thing. What's the point of that? You need description to differentiate. It's like people who are giving a description of someone and are afraid to explain that that person is of a racial minority.cobra_ky said:"Egalia doesn't deny the biological differences between boys and girls ? the dolls the children play with are anatomically correct."binnsyboy said:Exactly. With what they want to do, by essentially eliminating all explanation of difference there's going to be some severe confusion come the sex education years. "did 'hen' (seriously, what's up with that?) chop off his willy? What's a vagina?'Deschamps said:Equality and tolerance should be achieved through education, not ignorance.
Seems like rather than teach that people should accept differences, people are taking the easy route by trying phase them out and thus mess with the child's basic understanding of the world.
it's almost like some people don't read the article before they respond to it.
the thing is that in most cases, you don't need to differentiate. most of the time it doesn't really matter if someone's a racial minority or not, and gender usually doesn't matter either. These kids are going to understand the difference between willies and vaginas, and that's really the only thing that comes close to being a consistent difference between men and women. Beyond that, many adults get confused over what the differences are.binnsyboy said:That's not what I meant. I just mean the whole gender eliminating words thing. What's the point of that? You need description to differentiate. It's like people who are giving a description of someone and are afraid to explain that that person is of a racial minority.cobra_ky said:"Egalia doesn't deny the biological differences between boys and girls ? the dolls the children play with are anatomically correct."binnsyboy said:Exactly. With what they want to do, by essentially eliminating all explanation of difference there's going to be some severe confusion come the sex education years. "did 'hen' (seriously, what's up with that?) chop off his willy? What's a vagina?'Deschamps said:Equality and tolerance should be achieved through education, not ignorance.
Seems like rather than teach that people should accept differences, people are taking the easy route by trying phase them out and thus mess with the child's basic understanding of the world.
it's almost like some people don't read the article before they respond to it.
Understanding the differences is always better than ignoring them, however. The sooner they're actually taught to live with the differences rather than just ignore them, the easier the kids can cope with them when they become important. As for the race thing, if you were giving someone's description for whatever reason, their skin color would be a key fact in making them recognizable, as would gender.cobra_ky said:the thing is that in most cases, you don't need to differentiate. most of the time it doesn't really matter if someone's a racial minority or not, and gender usually doesn't matter either. These kids are going to understand the difference between willies and vaginas, and that's really the only thing that comes close to being a consistent difference between men and women. Beyond that, many adults get confused over what the differences are.binnsyboy said:That's not what I meant. I just mean the whole gender eliminating words thing. What's the point of that? You need description to differentiate. It's like people who are giving a description of someone and are afraid to explain that that person is of a racial minority.cobra_ky said:"Egalia doesn't deny the biological differences between boys and girls ? the dolls the children play with are anatomically correct."binnsyboy said:Exactly. With what they want to do, by essentially eliminating all explanation of difference there's going to be some severe confusion come the sex education years. "did 'hen' (seriously, what's up with that?) chop off his willy? What's a vagina?'Deschamps said:Equality and tolerance should be achieved through education, not ignorance.
Seems like rather than teach that people should accept differences, people are taking the easy route by trying phase them out and thus mess with the child's basic understanding of the world.
it's almost like some people don't read the article before they respond to it.
Well, imagine if instead of calling the kids "kids" they constantly said "white kids" and "black kids". There are differences, they can see them, they know them, but there is no point in using different words constantly. They probably do use different words when it's required, but otherwise they refer to them as "kids" rather than "boys" and "girls" and as a result they use gender-neutral pronouns at least some of the time.binnsyboy said:That's not what I meant. I just mean the whole gender eliminating words thing. What's the point of that? You need description to differentiate. It's like people who are giving a description of someone and are afraid to explain that that person is of a racial minority.
Kids aren't getting worse and worse, what makes you think they are? I've hear people say this frequently, but they never actually say what about kids is getting worse; they usually quote some personal experience story, but they can't support these claims.Astoria said:And they wonder why kids are acting worse and worse. They are PRESCHOOLERS! They shouldn't be taught about homesexuality and adoption or anything like that until they start asking questions about it which probably won't be for years. Let kids be kids for heavens sake!
I know of a 'gay district' in Toronto where there is a very high percentage population of homosexuals, it's certainly normal there. It just depends on the population you're sampling.plexxiss said:Being straight is normal being gay is not. Nothing wrong with being gay it just aint normal and we shouldn't pretend it is.
but the made up word describes something that does not exist. there is nothing that is completely genderless in humanity (to my knowledge). this isnt describing something both male and female, its describing something thats neither.WayOutThere said:All words are made up. If the creation of a new word will be beneficial why not create a new word? Language is flexible and should be adapted to our needs. That said the change would have to occur on a much larger scale than one school to do much more than cause confusion.Caligulust said:Things don't bode well when you try to seriously incorporate a made-up word.