The sad thing is that we went into more detailed criticism of Attack on Titan in the footage we had to cut for time where I also mention how i liked what they did with the first half of the anime, specifically regarding Mikasa and Eren. I think the total runtime for the original cut was closer to 14 minutes, so Dan had to shave some stuff down. That happens a lot when we get into a topic that we're passionate about.Caramel Frappe said:
No Right Answer: Attack on Attack on Titan
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He didn't say it had to be fast, just that every episode has a purpose. And almost every episode of Monster serves a purpose. It takes a long time but none of that time is wasted.adzman said:
And you shut your mouth, Gankutsuou is probably the best adaptation of the original novel that's ever been produced.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, I can't believe I missed that one. Full Metal Panic is a solid series through and through. Once you are done with that (and Full Metal Panic: The Second Raid), you absolutely need to give Full Metal Panic: Fumoffu? a watch. Takes the premise of the entire series and turns it into a wacky high school comedy and it's one of the funniest things of all time.Cerebrawl said:
Did you listen to the other problem - incredibly slow story. Brotherhood is terrible for that once the endgame is in play.chetoos said:
FMA is way better listening in Japanese and watching the translation.Mcoffey said:
Also Cowboy Bepop is boring. I have watch them all. I only found 1 episode interesting.
Oh, come on. If you're going to point out that a company that produces manga/anime can't just take someone's localization work can you at least drop a hint that people doing unauthorized translations shouldn't be taking the anime company's work? I mean, how does that not ring hypocrisy alarms when you say one but don't follow up with the other?
Wait, isn't all these repetitive as hell. I mean Ninja Scrolls is just a guy fighting a new thing each time. I saw it as a Ninja Neon Genesis, except with even less story. That's not what they movie just was.Makabriel said:
As much as I liked it as a little kid... no, just no. The real series is called Superdimensional Fortress Macross, and that recut shit called Robotech is one of the worst examples of localisation ever. See the real show, not the butchered hack version.Makabriel said:
i'm just gonna say this about attack on titan
for a manga that gives you the idea that humanity is under constant attack by titans you sure would love to see titan action wouldn't you?
WELL TOO BAD FOR YOU! 50 chapters of talking 10 of titan action
for a manga that gives you the idea that humanity is under constant attack by titans you sure would love to see titan action wouldn't you?
WELL TOO BAD FOR YOU! 50 chapters of talking 10 of titan action
Ok. You want an anime that's good? Where things happen and every episode is important? Try monster.
It's 74 episodes, not a single one of which is filler. The pacing is perfect and every single episode has its purpose in telling one of the greatest stories you'll ever witness.
It's 74 episodes, not a single one of which is filler. The pacing is perfect and every single episode has its purpose in telling one of the greatest stories you'll ever witness.
Yikes! Definitely not what we want taken away from the episode! I'm hugely against fan service for the sole purpose of titillating the lowest-common denominator since I think that can easily be a disservice to the characters and the story. Fan service is something I think should be handled veeeeeeeery carefully.medv4380 said:
As for Attack on Titan, you're right, the uniforms look excellent. They didn't stand out as much to me because I kept thinking, "Do Attack on Titan and Shin Megami Tensei IV take place in the same universe?" But the overall character designs, including the Titans, are something I should put in the "done very well" category.
Finally someone said it. I gave Attack on Titan a shot after it was suggested to me by multiple people and I just had to give up. It's so anime-esque. And by that I mean everyone stands around making exaggerated shocked faces and yelling or spending entire episodes repeating themselves over and over. The show was fine when people were getting eaten by Titans, but then it slows to a crawl and I just couldn't take it.
Reccomendations? Simple.
Berserk: I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If you watch/read one anime/manga in your life, then this is it. The show starts off slow, but when it gets started, it doesn't stop. It's like reading a novel, where every chapter contributes to the plot. It knows how to be deep, philosophical, and symbolic without becoming weighed down by its own themes or becoming pretentious. It's basically the thinking mans Game of Thrones, except with better characters. It's rare to see a story that has tons of action while still remaining intellectually engaging. The Manga is more thoughtful, but the anime may be easier to get into since it skips to the best part of the story after the first episode.
Kino's Journey: A well written female protagonist in an anime? A show that's philosophical but entertaining? If you like the twilight zone then you'll love Kino's Journey. There's no overarching plot, but each episode is well thought out, and while it's no comedy there's a certain sweet dry humor to it. Basically a young woman travels from town to town, and spends 3 days learning about each place.
Berserk: What an emotional roller coaster. Drawing from philosophy, religion, classic literture, and greek tragedy, Berserk is a true masterpiece. Meticulously plotted, it is one of the best combinations of character study and epic plot I've ever seen.
Satoshi Kon: A film director I've heard nothing but good things about, if you want something more serious and psychological. If you want to find great anime you have to venture out there a little more. If all you watch is Naruto, DBZ, and Fullmetal Alchemist then you'll end up with a skewed view of anime.
Berserk: I'm an avid reader and fantasy fan, but I don't exagerate when I claim that Berserk is probably the best fantasy epic I've ever read. And I'm quite well read. The epic scale of Lord of the Rings, the character depth and moral ambiguity of Game of Thrones, and the themes of classic Greek mythology and tragedy come together to create a horror fantasy series that is so much more than the sum of its parts. It's what Game of Thrones should have been. It's what inspired Dark Souls. It's a masterpiece.
Berserk: I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If you watch/read one anime/manga in your life, then this is it. The show starts off slow, but when it gets started, it doesn't stop. It's like reading a novel, where every chapter contributes to the plot. It knows how to be deep, philosophical, and symbolic without becoming weighed down by its own themes or becoming pretentious. It's basically the thinking mans Game of Thrones, except with better characters. It's rare to see a story that has tons of action while still remaining intellectually engaging. The Manga is more thoughtful, but the anime may be easier to get into since it skips to the best part of the story after the first episode.
Kino's Journey: A well written female protagonist in an anime? A show that's philosophical but entertaining? If you like the twilight zone then you'll love Kino's Journey. There's no overarching plot, but each episode is well thought out, and while it's no comedy there's a certain sweet dry humor to it. Basically a young woman travels from town to town, and spends 3 days learning about each place.
Berserk: What an emotional roller coaster. Drawing from philosophy, religion, classic literture, and greek tragedy, Berserk is a true masterpiece. Meticulously plotted, it is one of the best combinations of character study and epic plot I've ever seen.
Satoshi Kon: A film director I've heard nothing but good things about, if you want something more serious and psychological. If you want to find great anime you have to venture out there a little more. If all you watch is Naruto, DBZ, and Fullmetal Alchemist then you'll end up with a skewed view of anime.
Berserk: I'm an avid reader and fantasy fan, but I don't exagerate when I claim that Berserk is probably the best fantasy epic I've ever read. And I'm quite well read. The epic scale of Lord of the Rings, the character depth and moral ambiguity of Game of Thrones, and the themes of classic Greek mythology and tragedy come together to create a horror fantasy series that is so much more than the sum of its parts. It's what Game of Thrones should have been. It's what inspired Dark Souls. It's a masterpiece.
I'm just going to copy & paste my reason to why Cowboy Bebop doesn't count from a different forum....
I have to say the biggest waste of my time is one of my favorites, Cowboy Bebop: The Series. Because if the main plot of the series was Spike versus Vicious then the only episodes that needed to be watched were
05 - Ballad Of Fallen Angels
12 - Jupiter Jazz Part 1
13 - Jupiter Jazz Part 2
25 - The Real Folk Blues Part 1
26 - The Real Folk Blues Part 2
And even then its never explained how Julia fits into why Vicious hates Spike. Though if her story were excluded it becomes more about Vicious being mad that Spike left. With Julia included however certain fans have assumed Julia was originally with Vicious before leaving him for Spike. That assumption however excludes the fact that in 05 Vicious is happy to see a similarity between him & Spike. Only for Spike to deny it angering Vicious who then throws Spike out that window. Or in 26 Spike tells Vicious that Julia is dead & Vicious feels no guilt.
Even worse Faye & Jet never get their own proper sendoffs. They instead have to deal with trying to prevent Spike from going on his suicide mission against Vicious. The series just ends there after that as neither Faye nor Jet were the main focus of the series even though the series didn't have a main focus to begin with.
I have to say the biggest waste of my time is one of my favorites, Cowboy Bebop: The Series. Because if the main plot of the series was Spike versus Vicious then the only episodes that needed to be watched were
05 - Ballad Of Fallen Angels
12 - Jupiter Jazz Part 1
13 - Jupiter Jazz Part 2
25 - The Real Folk Blues Part 1
26 - The Real Folk Blues Part 2
And even then its never explained how Julia fits into why Vicious hates Spike. Though if her story were excluded it becomes more about Vicious being mad that Spike left. With Julia included however certain fans have assumed Julia was originally with Vicious before leaving him for Spike. That assumption however excludes the fact that in 05 Vicious is happy to see a similarity between him & Spike. Only for Spike to deny it angering Vicious who then throws Spike out that window. Or in 26 Spike tells Vicious that Julia is dead & Vicious feels no guilt.
Even worse Faye & Jet never get their own proper sendoffs. They instead have to deal with trying to prevent Spike from going on his suicide mission against Vicious. The series just ends there after that as neither Faye nor Jet were the main focus of the series even though the series didn't have a main focus to begin with.
Maybe if filler bothers you then try anime movies? Like "Ghost in the Shell" is really good. Was a series, compiled into a few movies. Very good
The last episode was clickbait.
I'll just leave that in the room.
As for anime with great dub:
Princess Mononoke
Seriously, Neil Gaiman (The Sandman, American Gods) was the director for the translation.
Baccano! has been mentioned already.
There's also Ghost in the Shell the movie and the Stand Alone Complex. Both have pretty great dub.
I'll just leave that in the room.
As for anime with great dub:
Princess Mononoke
Seriously, Neil Gaiman (The Sandman, American Gods) was the director for the translation.
Baccano! has been mentioned already.
There's also Ghost in the Shell the movie and the Stand Alone Complex. Both have pretty great dub.
I agree. While I have my own reasons for not watching Attack on Titan, I didn't even understand yours.MikeTheMonk said:
But since you specifically asked, here's my recommendations for anime:
Gundam 00 -- Be warned, Season 2 is kinda a different beast than the first.
Log Horizon (Subtitles)
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Space Battleship Yamato (Star Blazers) 2199
Mazinkaiser
Angel Beats
Kenichi
Elemental Gelade
Redline (anime movie)
Fairy Tail
Chrome Shelled Regios
Tower of Druaga
The Sacred Blacksmith (though it never really finished but just kinda stopped)
Familiar of Zero
.hack
thats all i can think of at the moment for anime i've watched and enjoyed all the way through
Kenichi
Elemental Gelade
Redline (anime movie)
Fairy Tail
Chrome Shelled Regios
Tower of Druaga
The Sacred Blacksmith (though it never really finished but just kinda stopped)
Familiar of Zero
.hack
thats all i can think of at the moment for anime i've watched and enjoyed all the way through
So I take it you don't like standalone episodes?RatGouf said:
Which is kinda strange, because CB really isn't about any overall plot. I don't wanna call it Sienfeldian, but yeah, it's more about the characters than any one particular plot.
He hated Julia for being the reason Spike left.
Even worse Faye & Jet never get their own proper sendoffs. They instead have to deal with trying to prevent Spike from going on his suicide mission against Vicious. The series just ends there after that as neither Faye nor Jet were the main focus of the series even though the series didn't have a main focus to begin with.[/quote]
Because the series was about the Gang, and with Spike dead and Ed and Ein back on Earth, the Gang was irrevocably broken.