US wouldn't use nukes if used in korea - - absolutely no need to. We have a very capable army and very precise weapons.
North Korea threatens the US with a Nuclear War.
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I'd say neither side will actually press the button, but the NK government are just insane enough to do it, not to mention, well prepared, with all their bunkers and such.
TBH, in the event that the excersises continue, I dare say the best thing for america to do if these threats continue would be to make the terrible decision to launch first. I honestly never thought I'd say something like that, and now I'm off to hastily join the "if fallout happens" group...
TBH, in the event that the excersises continue, I dare say the best thing for america to do if these threats continue would be to make the terrible decision to launch first. I honestly never thought I'd say something like that, and now I'm off to hastily join the "if fallout happens" group...
'Nam 2030?Radeonx said:
In all honestly, it sounds like there accusing them because of the fact they can. A investigation should be conducted before they go deploying 1st Force Recon and what not.
Oh North Korea, you so crazy. Kind of on topic, but I vaguely remember watching a documentary about a foreign aid doctor who helped cure blind North Koreans. Once they had the ability to see again, they instantly fell to their knees and praised Kim Jong-Il for curing them. Yeah.
Basically, North Korea is FUBAR.
Basically, North Korea is FUBAR.
Ha! I never knew that. Well, the more you know.snave said:
As much as the USA would love to give North Korea a black eye over the situation they can't really afford to right now as they are stretched a bit thin. Having these exercises so close to North Korea will put them on the spot. If they act the USA will call on its allies, yes UK that means you. But that also means China as they have an invested interest in the area. And an interest that things in the area stay quiet. I'd be far less worried about the USA's reaction to anything North Korea does, but worry about how China will view it.
Personally, whoever fires the nuke second. It's pretty difficult to get on the side of someone who decided to start a nuclear war, and is easier to side with whoever fires in retaliation.Subzerowings said:
But regardless, I'll start building a bunker, stock up on canned food and keep a stash of modern tech.
You say that as if there are in fact such things as good nukes.Scrumpmonkey said:No i mean who would take the time/ funds to nuke it? It's like nuking gilford. Just seems like a waste of good nukes.AwesomeFerret said:Why take the chance? He should get to the UK as fast as he can. Even if there never is a war, he would still be better off for living in the UK.Scrumpmonkey said:Who would bother to nuke Canada?Eggsnham said:
From my observations:
North Korea has been thumping its chest and barking menacingly at the world for a long time... Most likely, it's all sound and fury, signifying nothing.
The country itself is essentially a feudal prison camp. The nobody in, nobody out policy of border control has crippled their economy by itself, even without the help of international sanctions for bad behavior. When you can't afford to feed your workers, you can't afford to go to war. Up against USA and China, as superpowers, along with their allies, the best they could hope for is to strike at critical targets before being annihilated.
One of the big problems they have in achieving any successful strike is that while they might have nuclear armament, from the 60's, they most likely have not developed effective methods for delivering the payloads (long range aircraft, ICBMs or submarines)) that could not be countered by countries actively sinking money into missile, air and navy defense systems.
The people of Korea itself should be the subject of pity in this matter since North Koreans live horrible, abused, famished lives and the South Koreans just want to get along and strive to get in on the good stuff of western economies, while living in fear of a conjoined twin that wants you dead by the whim of a ruthless, loud tyrant.
North Korea has been thumping its chest and barking menacingly at the world for a long time... Most likely, it's all sound and fury, signifying nothing.
The country itself is essentially a feudal prison camp. The nobody in, nobody out policy of border control has crippled their economy by itself, even without the help of international sanctions for bad behavior. When you can't afford to feed your workers, you can't afford to go to war. Up against USA and China, as superpowers, along with their allies, the best they could hope for is to strike at critical targets before being annihilated.
One of the big problems they have in achieving any successful strike is that while they might have nuclear armament, from the 60's, they most likely have not developed effective methods for delivering the payloads (long range aircraft, ICBMs or submarines)) that could not be countered by countries actively sinking money into missile, air and navy defense systems.
The people of Korea itself should be the subject of pity in this matter since North Koreans live horrible, abused, famished lives and the South Koreans just want to get along and strive to get in on the good stuff of western economies, while living in fear of a conjoined twin that wants you dead by the whim of a ruthless, loud tyrant.
While this is not the UK's fight (yet) and I know that NK's nuclear capability is about as effective as a pigeon with a single 5.56mm DU round strapped to it, it still worries me. Here you have Kim-Il-Thingy, who is utterly potty, with his finger on the button. Any nuclear detonation anywhere is going to elicit a response. Someone mentioned that the best NK can do is land a nuke on the tip of Alaska. Sure it might not do much harm but it's still an attack on US soil and they would be well within their rights to retaliate.
Ironically I used to worry more about the US - I mean, would you feel safe knowing that GW Bush had his finger on the red button?
Anyway, the way I see it is this. The SK's are rightfully miffed that someone sank their ship and all evidence allegedly points to NK. The US have never really liked NK and so have sided with SK to stand up to the bullying NK's. I can see the logic but at the same time it's blatantly rattling the sabre. Mind you, it's the lesser of two evils in this case. Best do something than nothing.
Anyone in NK with an ounce of sense will look at the US and SK display and realise that they're on to a major loser if they carry out their threat. OK so Kim's a nutcase and might not pay attention but I wouldn't be surprised if the NK civvies and even the armed forces etc. wise up and leg it before the shit hits the fan! I wouldn't rule out an internal attempt at a coup either! Seriously - if you knew your nutter of a leader was willing to defy all warnings and launch an offensive that will only result in you and your country being blasted into atoms then you'd go to some pretty desperate measures to stop it!
Wardy
Ironically I used to worry more about the US - I mean, would you feel safe knowing that GW Bush had his finger on the red button?
Anyway, the way I see it is this. The SK's are rightfully miffed that someone sank their ship and all evidence allegedly points to NK. The US have never really liked NK and so have sided with SK to stand up to the bullying NK's. I can see the logic but at the same time it's blatantly rattling the sabre. Mind you, it's the lesser of two evils in this case. Best do something than nothing.
Anyone in NK with an ounce of sense will look at the US and SK display and realise that they're on to a major loser if they carry out their threat. OK so Kim's a nutcase and might not pay attention but I wouldn't be surprised if the NK civvies and even the armed forces etc. wise up and leg it before the shit hits the fan! I wouldn't rule out an internal attempt at a coup either! Seriously - if you knew your nutter of a leader was willing to defy all warnings and launch an offensive that will only result in you and your country being blasted into atoms then you'd go to some pretty desperate measures to stop it!
Wardy
Well, I'm a bit surprised that anyone wants to wage war on America. I know I've probably been Ninja'd, but considering what happened to the Japanese in WWII, I don't think either of us wants to go through that again. Of course, Kim Jong Ill is pretty loony. I'm not a big fan of President Obama, but I hope that when war is at stake he'll make the right decision.
It's Kim Jong Ill, he's insane. If you accidentally overcook his steak he'll shoot bombs at your house.
Also, are there any household items that are effective against radscorpions?
Also, are there any household items that are effective against radscorpions?
Personally can't wait till that tired tacky little regime gets done like Ceausescu.
(I'm talking about North Korea).
(I'm talking about North Korea).