How about everybody reads Catcher in the Rye? Might be good for the whole media induced violence discussion, right?
I don't know if you realize this but entertainment is all about wasting time.wikiman said:Well, not. Games are a form of entertainment. You are playing a game because you want to have fun, get a quick stress relive, or imerse yourself in a great interactive story. Books are also a form of entertainment. Sure you can read boring stuff because you have to, but in your free time, when you take a book to read, it is usualy something you want to read. Because it is interesting, entertaining, etc. So what im trying to say is this. Anything that enriches your life in some way, no matter if it is a comic book, game, a movie or a tv show, is good for you. If you had a positive experience that somehow makes your life better in any way, then time spend doing this is not wasted.HardkorSB said:What he's trying to say is "Stop wasting time and do something productive".
He's talking about video games since that is what most kids are doing. That's what I was doing when I was a kid and I can say that it is one of the most time wasting and unproductive hobbies out there. No matter how sophisticated, story driven or complex your games are, you're just playing them to waste time (don't lie to yourself).
He's not dumb, he's not just going with the "Games are Satan" crowd, he knows that if you'll spend your whole youth just sitting in your room, staring into the TV screen and moving 6 fingers, you'll have a hard time keeping up with reality when it's time to take responsibility for your own life.
I think he's also saying "Don't let video games be the substitute for a family".
That's what I think, at least.
...what?!?
I just can't get over this notion, that here on a gaming website some people still consider gaming as time wasting activity. Suere there are extreme cases, like grinding for the sake of grinding in WOW, but people who do that are sick. They need help. And on the other hand we have other games, that are a great experience, and can teach truths about life better than any book. People need to point at positive things that come from gaming, not only negative stuff.
Wow. I am impressed with how much you misunderstood what I wrote. This has nothing to do with the argument, but because of the smugly superior tone in your response I see no other way than to give you a response in turn.funguy2121 said:The Renaissance. Also known as the Enlightenment. It wasn't the first, either; about two millennia before the time of Leonardo, there were people like Socrates and Aristotle. Though some of the more famous ones (Plato) never actually wrote anything, like the Renaissance, these developments had a pretty decent impact on society. Like the computer, the cell phone, the video games, mathematics, property rights, the concept of freedom, and all sciences. And how did this knowledge spread? Look, if it makes you feel hip and modern, you can read Dostoyevski on a Kindle. As long as you read Dostoyevski. Until you do, you won't make my Christmas listFelix said:We hear this all the fucking time...
Middle ages: Put away the ball and go work!
Renaissance: Put away the book and go outside!
1930: Turn off the radio and pick up a book!
1950: Turn off the tv and pick up a book!
1970: Put away those comics and pick up a book!
1990: Hang up the phone and pick up a book!
2000: Turn off that computer and pick up a book!
2011: Turn off the video games and pick up a book!
I don't understand why people are so obsessed with books. Sure, there are shitloads of really good books out there and God knows I love reading good books. But there are an equal amount if not more of really shitty books. It's like people think that books have a monopoly on intriguing and fascinating narrative and story. Besides, doing one single thing too much is never good no matter what it is.
Also, I take issue with your interpretation of those eras/decades. I don't think those are very accurate.
Yeah you are right! I didn't mean one should simply indulge in games or books! Both have lots to offer! But games can act as a very good medium for teaching and encouraging learning because, I feel, that it is a more compelling medium for children. But that's not to say that going out and experiencing "the world outside" is any less educating. A good example of this is when I was 10 (I think) I remember playing Age Of Empires 2 and wanting to learn more so I went and read some books about Joan of Arc. Then when we went to France on a family holiday my mother took me to see the church of saint Catherine de Fierbois where Joan found her famous sword. Games that encouraged learning through books that subsequently took me outside the house to learn even more!Dexiro said:Sorry what? Games tell stories differently than books and yes certain stories are better communicated through games. Books and games are completely different experiences, people need to experience both worlds and see the stories that both have to offer. (this message goes out to a lot of people on this thread)CazGirl said:Games educate and tell stories sometimes better than books. So better advice would be to turn off the video games and go outside or spend sometime with Dad.
One benefit that reading has is increasing your creativity, due to the imagination needed to bring the text to life, and of course it can also increase your comprehension and vocabulary.
To conclude my advice is to experience all aspects of media. Play games, watch movies, read books, they all hold different experiences.
Yes he did say one damn thing about art. He mentioned books and games, quite clearly both are artforms. And saying that one is more worthy than another is stupid.Tdc2182 said:Oh quit with melodramatics. He never said one damn thing about art, and if it's gotten to the point where you are defending gaming because you need your daily dose of "art", then you really do need to read a book.
This is where I will draw the line. Don't you people fool yourselves that it is in any way healthy for you.
It may help you with social skills and calm some people down, but quit telling yourself that it's actually healthy for you.
Fine. I'll read it again.666Chaos said:See above about spouting nonsense because you have not taked the thirty seconds to actually read the article and so have no clue what obama was talking about.