Double Fine doesn't count? I haven't noticed anything(beyond a couple of vocal dissenters) but good will towards developers going the Kickstarter route to fund what traditional publishers won't.Saviordd1 said:
Obsidian Unveils Project Eternity
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Alright, I'll admit I'm desperate. I'm aching for an old school RPG so much that I'm willing to completely disregard my rule about pre-ordering games, especially those made by Obsidian; company I don't really have good experience with. So I'll pledge.
This, coupled with the recent "revival" of Black Isle Studios really gives me hope for the future. At least until, you know, that end of the world crap.
This, coupled with the recent "revival" of Black Isle Studios really gives me hope for the future. At least until, you know, that end of the world crap.
I never had any major bug problems with New Vegas either, although I know some did. If anything, I had way more problems with Fallout 3.Saviordd1 said:
I can't remember any buggy parts from Kotor II either, although admittedly, it was unfinished, but that's more LucasArt's fault than Obsidian's. The parts that worked were great.
In my humble opinion, they are both great games with some crippling flaws (especially in the case of Kotor II).
(I have never played Alpha Protocol or Dungeon Siege 3 so I can't comment)
Did you play all, or any, of these games? If you played all of them, it seems strange that you would suddenly turn your back on Obsidian after slavishly buying pretty much every game they've ever made. If you didn't, why do you react so strongly to them?
Isometric tactical combat - the magic words! I loved the Icewind Dale games, I loved Temple of Elemental Evil, I don't think that CRPG combat has ever been so deep and interesting. They took what BioWare did and made it amazing. I'm in!
As I understand, it's set in a world created from scratch. Not too thrilled about that, that's a really tall order nowadays if you want to create a game with a great story and personality. I also hope it's polished, for the first time. Backed it of course, but it's gonna be tough.
There are people on this earth for whom 10000 dollars would be equal to what 10 dollars is to you and me. Some of those people are into video games.Chairman Miaow said:
This is a good thing. More money to game industry.
Heck, remember a while back when that one guy made a video asking someone to give him 1 million dollars, and he got it?
Although this game looks and sounds awesome, I'm surprised they didn't come up with the more obvious and potentially risky idea, but also the potentially more awesome idea:
At the bottom of the Kickstarter page, there's a bunch of images of box art from all the games these guys have worked on. Now think about this next line for a second:
What if, for a game idea, they just made a crossover of ALL of those games?
Think about it.
At the very least, there shold be references to those games as easter eggs in Eternity, or at least have the protagonists from the games as secret NPC's
At the bottom of the Kickstarter page, there's a bunch of images of box art from all the games these guys have worked on. Now think about this next line for a second:
What if, for a game idea, they just made a crossover of ALL of those games?
Think about it.
At the very least, there shold be references to those games as easter eggs in Eternity, or at least have the protagonists from the games as secret NPC's
It's also probably worth looking at the comments that Brian Fargo made during his Wasteland 2 Kickstarter. Particularly how publishers balloon production expenses on a fairly regular basis.Fappy said:
The example I remember him giving was talking about how a publisher had handled voice work for a game, where the game devs were actually flat out prevented from interacting with the talent, and the final material was almost unusable as a result.
A non-Fargo example that comes to mind was with Spec Ops where the budget was forced to include multiplayer deathmatch by the publisher. Resources that, quite frankly, the developer didn't want to spend, were spent on a feature that (according to them) actually undercut the game itself.
EDIT: We're also at 877k already... o.o
I'm not going to fund this Kickstarter on account of the fact that I'm going to be pretty much broke for the next few months, but there was something rather depressing in this article.
Would this have gotten funding if you controlled the main character like a tank, the concept of the art gave him a neck thicker than most torsos, and he was brandishing a burly sci-fi gun of some sort?
Wait. It's almost impossible for a noted developer of excellent RPGs (oftimes buggy, but generally very good) to get funding for a classic, old school Baldur's Gate-style RPG.... a game that merely invoking the name of will inspire nerds everywhere to sprout enormous, throbbing erections?
Would this have gotten funding if you controlled the main character like a tank, the concept of the art gave him a neck thicker than most torsos, and he was brandishing a burly sci-fi gun of some sort?
Hmmm is there tiers of features they'll add if they get more funding?
Like with Wasteland 2, if it got 2.1 million in funding they'd be able to get the support of Obsidian, and if it got 3 million they'd be able to make the game world much larger?
Like with Wasteland 2, if it got 2.1 million in funding they'd be able to get the support of Obsidian, and if it got 3 million they'd be able to make the game world much larger?
Yeah, yeah...Kickstarter beware, you don't know if you can trust them, take it all with a grain of salt...FUCK THAT. These are the GODS, the guys who took the high road when Bioware bent over in front of EA all innocent-faced. If they're messing around with us, and using Planescape and Icewind to do it, that would be like musically getting screwed by Bob Dylan. If I can't trust Tim Cain in this industry, then you can't trust anyone anymore.
On that note, I'm attempting to give them as much money as possible before my wife starts yelling, then more when it's justified to her. This is gonna go skyrocketing over 1.1 mil and could be one of the absolute great isometrics. I don't feel at all like it's dangerous to assume that.
On that note, I'm attempting to give them as much money as possible before my wife starts yelling, then more when it's justified to her. This is gonna go skyrocketing over 1.1 mil and could be one of the absolute great isometrics. I don't feel at all like it's dangerous to assume that.
Affirmative. They did mention that they would add more levels and stuff if they go over their goal. Give me a sec... Ah, there. Right on the project page *hidden snarkometer alarm*SaintlyTurkey said:
"We?ve also designed the game to have a flexible budget and scope, so if we reach our target budget goal, we have a list great stuff we can add into the mix through stretch goals. And, additional money we raise will go straight into the game to add new levels, companions, NPCs, features, and even entirely new parts of the world which will add hours and hours to the adventure."
Backed! This is Obsidian's chance to prove that they can make perfect games without publisher interference, rather than just great games with deep, potentially crippling flaws.
24 hours later...it's 99% funded.
...Man. Now I really want to play New Vegas again. Let's do this!
I've played it six times with minimal bugs, most of which happened around release. Besides, Bethesda did the QA anyway. If people had a problem, that's where they should direct their complaints.Moonlight Butterfly said:
...Man. Now I really want to play New Vegas again. Let's do this!
