Obsidian Unveils Project Eternity

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Saviordd1

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INeedAName said:
Saviordd1 said:
Yeah do not want.

Fallout New Vegas was a buggy mess, KOTOR was a buggy and unfinished mess, Alpha Protocol was just a mess, and Dungeon Siege 3 *Shudders*

What rep Obsidian has with Planescape and Icewind Dale evaporates when I look at what they've recently released; and I'm sure as hell not going to fund something so cliche as to have the damn dragon eating itself as a symbol (How many times have we had that recently? Only a few dozen)

Ff any other well established developer pulled this the Escapist would crucify them.

Fuck this game, and fuck Obsidian.


Captcha: Picture Perfect
far from it captcha, far from it.
I never had any major bug problems with New Vegas either, although I know some did. If anything, I had way more problems with Fallout 3.

I can't remember any buggy parts from Kotor II either, although admittedly, it was unfinished, but that's more LucasArt's fault than Obsidian's. The parts that worked were great.

In my humble opinion, they are both great games with some crippling flaws (especially in the case of Kotor II).

(I have never played Alpha Protocol or Dungeon Siege 3 so I can't comment)

Did you play all, or any, of these games? If you played all of them, it seems strange that you would suddenly turn your back on Obsidian after slavishly buying pretty much every game they've ever made. If you didn't, why do you react so strongly to them?
I've played basically all of them, mostly because I WANTED them to be good; but Obsidian burned its last bridge when I couldn't get through one New Vegas playthrough without regular crashes and bugs; and then when I got through I was severely disappointed.
 

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An Obsidian game with no Publisher pressure and permission to allow them to work on any IP or universe they so desire with no time limits and over a million dollars to work with?

My god. This will be the best game ever.
 

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"Isometric and party-based"

Stopped reading there. After playing Diablo 3, I don't think I can ever play an isometric game ever again without throwing up. Sorry Obsidian.
 

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Whelp... I did ask at some point for someone to point me in the direction of where I could send my money to help fund a Chris Avellone game. Guess that answers that.

*Wanders off to Kickstarter*
 

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Saviordd1 said:
I've played basically all of them, mostly because I WANTED them to be good; but Obsidian burned its last bridge when I couldn't get through one New Vegas playthrough without regular crashes and bugs; and then when I got through I was severely disappointed.
I'm surprised nobody brought this up yet, but Obsidian was not in charge of QA. As for that last statement, I loved what they did with NV. Don't know what you were expecting that you were disappointed by the content.
 

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As I suspected, it's another fantasy RPG. Too bad they won't take this opportunity to make an RPG in a different setting.
 

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Doom972 said:
As I suspected, it's another fantasy RPG. Too bad they won't take this opportunity to make an RPG in a different setting.
With you there brother. Would love to see more Sci FI RPG's of this type, especially after Mass Effect whet my appetite then promptly (from #2 onwards) turned into a FPS with tacked on rpg elements.

However, this is Obsidian so i'm not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth
 
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FelixG said:
Its PC only, nothing to do with consoles.
You convinced me with this single line. Signed up and donated to my first Kickstarter project :)

FelixG said:
Though... isometric fantasy RPG that harks back to Planescape and Baulders Gate in a fresh new world? Anyone want to take bets that they will go the Bioware route and make an absolutely awesome game and then murder the series with the second game? :p
I'll take that action.
 

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bluepotatosack said:
I'm surprised nobody brought this up yet, but Obsidian was not in charge of QA. As for that last statement, I loved what they did with NV. Don't know what you were expecting that you were disappointed by the content.
Them not being in charge of QA with New Vegas is probably the only reason New Vegas was as playable as it was.

As shown by
-NWN2
-KOTOR2
-Alpha Protocol
When left to QA their own games, they do just as bad, if not worse.
 

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So, they got their 1.1 mil in 24 hours (well, 27 technically).

They have 30 left. Are they going to make another 30 million?

I kinda hope so. Go Obsidian! I'll be happily awaiting my digital copy of your game.

Captcha: make haste; my heart says this, but my brain says "no, Obsidian, take your time - make the best game you can make. No rush, no pressure."
 

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I'm looking forward to this, and will probably pledge. Obsidian has always had such fantastic writing and quests.

On another note: I'm a bit concerned about the quality of news reports on this site recently. It seems that the reporters like to add in their own opinions very often. In my impression of the methods of the news media, it is their job to only report the objective state of affairs, not their own interpretations. Leave that to the readers or add it in the comments section in the forum of the article. It feels unprofessional to me is all.
 

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Diana Kingston-Gabai said:


Not the Obsidian project we expected, but most definitely the Obsidian project we need.
Is this like a reverse batman then? Or not really, since one could argue that this is the game we need and deserve.
 

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SajuukKhar said:
bluepotatosack said:
I'm surprised nobody brought this up yet, but Obsidian was not in charge of QA. As for that last statement, I loved what they did with NV. Don't know what you were expecting that you were disappointed by the content.
Them not being in charge of QA with New Vegas is probably the only reason New Vegas was as playable as it was.

As shown by
-NWN2
-KOTOR2
-Alpha Protocol
When left to QA their own games, they do just as bad, if not worse.
I may be wrong, but isn't QA usually on the shoulders of the publishers? If that's the case, then it would be:

NWN 2: Atari
KOTOR 2: LucasArts
Alpha Protocol: Sega
 

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bluepotatosack said:
Saviordd1 said:
I've played basically all of them, mostly because I WANTED them to be good; but Obsidian burned its last bridge when I couldn't get through one New Vegas playthrough without regular crashes and bugs; and then when I got through I was severely disappointed.
I'm surprised nobody brought this up yet, but Obsidian was not in charge of QA. As for that last statement, I loved what they did with NV. Don't know what you were expecting that you were disappointed by the content.
How about some actual moral greyness that Obsidian was so famous for?

In KOTOR they turned the entire story into a greyfest (Which they shouldn't have because that's not Star Wars) but when they got their hands on an IP that could could use moral greyness (Fallout) they didn't. They tried to present Caesars Legion vs NCR as morally grey but it was so ridiculously black vs white it was scary.
 

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From the looks of it, Eternity is very similar to Dragon Age: Origins in all aspects. We can hope for a better DA:O, but don't go in expecting a new BG2.
 

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Saviordd1 said:
bluepotatosack said:
Saviordd1 said:
I've played basically all of them, mostly because I WANTED them to be good; but Obsidian burned its last bridge when I couldn't get through one New Vegas playthrough without regular crashes and bugs; and then when I got through I was severely disappointed.
I'm surprised nobody brought this up yet, but Obsidian was not in charge of QA. As for that last statement, I loved what they did with NV. Don't know what you were expecting that you were disappointed by the content.
How about some actual moral greyness that Obsidian was so famous for?

In KOTOR they turned the entire story into a greyfest (Which they shouldn't have because that's not Star Wars) but when they got their hands on an IP that could could use moral greyness (Fallout) they didn't. They tried to present Caesars Legion vs NCR as morally grey but it was so ridiculously black vs white it was scary.
Eh. Personally, I sort of liked that. It (ironically) added to the realism. Sure, there's not a lot of grey between a mostly well-meaning albeit corrupt republic and an autocratic slaver society of murderous a-holes. But then again, that's life. If someone had played a game about WW2, believing the conflict to be a work of fiction, he would have sighed about how unrealistic the setting is and how the writers are just trying to pull emotional strings. Like, why would the stupidly obvious bad guys, the Nazis, put precious recources and manpower to genociding (genocide, why aren't you a verb!) these poor people that's not a threat to them. The answer is the same in real life as in FNV, that to them it made sense. If you take the time to listen to them you learn that there's a reason they do what they do. It's a twisted reason based on flawed logic, but it's there.

What I'm saying is that it made sense for such a group to form out of the wasteland. Maybe not that they're prancing around in roman outfits, but that the warring tribes would fall under a single charismatic leader and form an imperialistic and autocratic society that threatens everone around them.

Plus, they needed a faction of a-holes for the people who like to play a-holes in their games.
 

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INeedAName said:
I may be wrong, but isn't QA usually on the shoulders of the publishers? If that's the case, then it would be:

NWN 2: Atari
KOTOR 2: LucasArts
Alpha Protocol: Sega
When the facts are
-Obsidian has had every one of their games be buggy train-wrecks
-Said developer has had different publishers for every one of their games, and each of those publishers have published tons of games that weren't buggy, or were at least significantly less buggy.

The root cause of the bugs is easy to determine.

Occam's razor dictates that one developer having terrible programers is the more correct answer then one developer getting a string of publishers that magically can't QA for said developers games, and their games only.

Obsidian is the only company I can think of that gets more fan deflection then Valve when it comes to the very obvious problems they have.

Obsidian can write stories, they just can't make an even half-decent game to tell their story in.
 

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Mechanix said:
"Isometric and party-based"

Stopped reading there. After playing Diablo 3, I don't think I can ever play an isometric game ever again without throwing up. Sorry Obsidian.
Diablo 3 and the 90s Infinity Engine games are hardly similar games. About the only similarity they have is loot and perspective.

OT: YES, YES YEESSSS!! Looking forward to this, given it's pretty much a dream team of folks developing it when it comes to a fantastic RPG.

Although I have realised the amount of games I've kickstarted that have a late 2013/2014 release date. By the time it comes out i'll have forgotten about the fact I payed for it, suddenly I'll get an email through saying "your game is ready for download!" What game? Oh riiight!