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Moonlight Butterfly

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For some reason reading this while having Jamestown menu music playing in a tabbed out window, makes the internet backlash so much more epic.
 

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Makon said:
panzertank83 said:
UPDATE!

Paul from Ocean Marketting dishes half-hearted, excuse-ridden, apology:

source: gamerfront.net/2011/12/ocean-marketing-a-study-on-how-to-destroy-your-reputation-with-just-a-few-emails/15199
What I read: "Holy crap, NERD-RAGE!? Time to lie, misdirect and deceive my way out of the bad rep I have managed to build within 12 hours with some terribly punctuated and grammatically formed emails."
I got about the same thing from it. I read: "Crap, the fact that I've repeatedly been a massive **** to my customers is now spreading across the internet like wildfire. Guess stroking my ego by claiming to know everyone in a position of power in the industry doesn't work when they all call me a tosser. I should start making excuses now."
 

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He did know he could write one email explaining the situation as he does in that apology and then forward it to all his customers...he didn't have to write every single one by hand. >_>
 

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Another case of Christoforo's assholery:

http://www.notgoodenough.org/viewtopic.php?p=329158
Holy Balls!

If this is an accurate description of the conversation that happened, he replies to a customer with condescending remarks about the customer and everyone from his country. To brag about doing business with 8 countries and then insult one of them might be the stupidest thing he's done yet.

I hope this link gets passed around with all the others.
 

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xXxJessicaxXx said:
He did know he could write one email explaining the situation as he does in that apology and then forward it to all his customers...he didn't have to write every single one by hand. >_>
I was thinking that the whole time he mentioned having to do everything himself.
 

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And the douchebaggery continues as the guy from Ocean still doesn't realize that he's a tiny fish in a big pond:

That behavior didn't stop with the e-mail chain either. Rather than taking a lesson from the exchange after it was posted, Christoforo, against all odds, stuck to his guns.

He was called out publicly on Twitter by IGN's Scott Lowe -- name-dropped in the e-mails, you might remember -- who said "Paul Christoforo's claims that he has my and @IGN's support are UNFOUNDED. I worked with him briefly and he was completely unprofessional." Lowe then directed Christoforo to refrain from bragging about having IGN's support. "You do not have it," Scott wrote.

The reply? Christoforo, writing from his @oceanmarketting Twitter account (yes, we can all note the misspelled company name --proceeded to somehow call Scott a "douchebag" AND "the unprofessional one" in the same breath. He's apparently forgotten that denigrating someone's character in a public forum actually DOES qualify as unprofessional.
Quoted from the G4 website (another publication he happened to namedrop a couple of times).
 

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whiffleball said:
xXxJessicaxXx said:
He did know he could write one email explaining the situation as he does in that apology and then forward it to all his customers...he didn't have to write every single one by hand. >_>
I was thinking that the whole time he mentioned having to do everything himself.
Funny that he maintains that he's so overwhelmed by having to do everything himself when he claims to have "125 dedicated people to run PR , Blogs , Articles , Videos".
 
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ChildofGallifrey said:
whiffleball said:
xXxJessicaxXx said:
He did know he could write one email explaining the situation as he does in that apology and then forward it to all his customers...he didn't have to write every single one by hand. >_>
I was thinking that the whole time he mentioned having to do everything himself.
Funny that he maintains that he's so overwhelmed by having to do everything himself when he claims to have "125 dedicated people to run PR , Blogs , Articles , Videos".
That's a good point. I might have missed it, but it seems like he says he's the President. In the link that Orange was so good to share with us, a guy named David Kotkin created this. Am I misreading? What is this guy Paul doing 'lowering himself to converse with us Nerds'?
 

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How old is that guy?

I have spoken with people online who sounded like that and I always assumed they were kids or teenagers. I find it hard to believe he is 38.
 

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UPDATE

Paul has changed the twitter handle to @OceanStratagy ... Yes he got another spelling mistake in the new handle. Someone else has taken the old name and is promoting indie games and penny-arcade through it and it is appearing on the ocean marketing website XD
 

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I studied marketing back in the day. Either the definition of "marketing" has changed quite a bit since then, or I slept through those customer insulting classes.
 

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Dirty Hipsters said:
And the douchebaggery continues as the guy from Ocean still doesn't realize that he's a tiny fish in a big pond:

That behavior didn't stop with the e-mail chain either. Rather than taking a lesson from the exchange after it was posted, Christoforo, against all odds, stuck to his guns.

He was called out publicly on Twitter by IGN's Scott Lowe -- name-dropped in the e-mails, you might remember -- who said "Paul Christoforo's claims that he has my and @IGN's support are UNFOUNDED. I worked with him briefly and he was completely unprofessional." Lowe then directed Christoforo to refrain from bragging about having IGN's support. "You do not have it," Scott wrote.

The reply? Christoforo, writing from his @oceanmarketting Twitter account (yes, we can all note the misspelled company name --proceeded to somehow call Scott a "douchebag" AND "the unprofessional one" in the same breath. He's apparently forgotten that denigrating someone's character in a public forum actually DOES qualify as unprofessional.
Quoted from the G4 website (another publication he happened to namedrop a couple of times).
I read that too on G4, and all I kept thinking was this guy must really hate money and establishing connections.

I had a grand ol time reading the exchange, and I wouldn't be surprised if his marketing shindig fails.
 

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tgr said:
I studied marketing back in the day. Either the definition of "marketing" has changed quite a bit since then, or I slept through those customer insulting classes.
He's doing marketting/stratagy though. Totally different thing :p

another small update: Internet detectives have found that paul uses roids and is prone to fits of roidrage.
 

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TheGuy(wantstobe) said:
He's doing marketting/stratagy though. Totally different thing :p
Omg I nearly splurted my cola everywhere...
hahahaha.

My friend pointed out that the correct spelling is taken but he could have at least taken OcStrategy or something to make it look a little more professional...
 

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This seriously made my day, haven't laughed out loud at something in such a long time.
I think after the massive rant that Paul had about his industry friends Mike's comment of "I do run PAX, I also have a website called Penny Arcade... It's kinda of a big thing" just sent me right over the edge.
 

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xXxJessicaxXx said:
TheGuy(wantstobe) said:
He's doing marketting/stratagy though. Totally different thing :p
Omg I nearly splurted my cola everywhere...
hahahaha.

My friend pointed out that the correct spelling is taken but he could have at least taken OcStrategy or something to make it look a little more professional...
The correct spelling was taken after he took the incorrect one though which makes it even better/worse/hilarious.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
And that, my friends, is how you commit corporate suicide.

It's so very delicious.
The copyright lawsuits that will be going off against this guy for his website are going to be the icing on the cake.

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The Soical networking [http://oceanmarketinginc.com/Socialnetworking.php] page from here [http://www.virtualsocialmedia.com/social-media-a-la-carte-services/social-networking-management-services/]
The search engine optimisation page [http://oceanmarketinginc.com/Search-Engine-Optimization.php] from here [http://www.whiteinkstudio.com/orange_county_seo.shtml]
 

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TheGuy(wantstobe) said:
Daystar Clarion said:
And that, my friends, is how you commit corporate suicide.

It's so very delicious.
The copyright lawsuits that will be going off against this guy for his website are going to be the icing on the cake.

The about us [http://www.oceanmarketinginc.com/Aboutus.php] page came from here [http://www.seop.com/about-seop/]
The services [http://oceanmarketinginc.com/services.php] page from here [http://www.virtualsocialmedia.com/social-media-marketing-optimization-services/]
The Soical networking [http://oceanmarketinginc.com/Socialnetworking.php] page from here [http://www.virtualsocialmedia.com/social-media-a-la-carte-services/social-networking-management-services/]
The search engine optimisation page [http://oceanmarketinginc.com/Search-Engine-Optimization.php] from here [http://www.whiteinkstudio.com/orange_county_seo.shtml]
It's becoming more apparent that this guy's nothing but a scam artist. He has no employees. It's just him.