Second both parts of that.San Martin said:
(Well, I've got some ideas where it comes from, but the phrase "Man Suffragette Feminism" should only be used in a bad absurdist comedy sketch)
Old social values you could get behind
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(Well, I've got some ideas where it comes from, but the phrase "Man Suffragette Feminism" should only be used in a bad absurdist comedy sketch)
like being sure who the father isAlek_the_Great said:
[quote/]It even comes down to how the tow genders actually have sex since male anatomy functions to penetrate while female anatomy is designed to be penetrated, which makes it more prone change in reaction to intercourse or any other insertions.[/quote]
I'm not sure if you mean the "vaginas getting looser" but aside from childbirth I'm fairly sure thats not actually a thing
I wish the Greek concept of a forum was more prevalent in society, rather than the modern "forum." Openly discussing everything from religion to politics without vitriol, mentoring people willing to learn how you think, etc. Having studied much of Greek philosophy, I have to say I think it would do the world a lot of good. Of course, Socrates was made to drink poison by the government, so...
Before that, the Athenians made it a law to stone to death anyone that suggested spending Pericle's emergency fund when it wasn't an emergency.Nieroshai said:
I'm too young to remember any values worth returning first hand. I often wish globalization wasn't a thing. You know, when you couldn't move the bulk of a business to another continent in the name of being cost-effective. Then shrug off all blame by pointing out if you don't do it others will. Surely there was a time in history where the economy wasn't based on eating cake you realistically shouldn't have.
I'd say the latter of the 10 commandments are things it'd be really nice if people started following again, specifically (Minus funky bible speech):
Don't steal.
Don't cheat on your Significant Other.
Don't lie.
Don't kill. (Ok, most people follow this one..)
And most importantly, treat your Mother right [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_rBidCkJxo].
I'm not a religious guy but those seem like fairly good moral guidelines to me.
Don't steal.
Don't cheat on your Significant Other.
Don't lie.
Don't kill. (Ok, most people follow this one..)
And most importantly, treat your Mother right [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_rBidCkJxo].
I'm not a religious guy but those seem like fairly good moral guidelines to me.
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I'm not Westaway but it's certainly arguable that multiculturalism can lead to tensions in a society if two different groups have wildly differing values. To be clear I'm not talking about irrelevant fluff like clothing or celebrating different holidays, but differing social attitudes towards women or LGBT people for example. You see it here in parts of northern Europe where tensions between on average a socially liberal indigenous population and more religious conservative immigrants exist.San Martin said:
I personally like the idea of the traditional, nuclear family, especially as a model for raising children in a secure environment. Whilst this appeals to me personally, I wouldn't seriously advocate it as a sort of social imperative for everyone because heterosexual monogamy and life-long commitment doesn't suit everyone. And indeed, I think imposing this life aspiration on society as a whole leads to problems for people who don't naturally cohere to that of lifestyle.
I'm not really sure of the extent to which this social value existed in the first place, but it would be nice if society valued "the trades" as much as it did a university education. I think there's been a trend to emphasise the importance of university education in schools over learning a trade which has led to an over-supply of university graduates and an under supply of skilled trades people.
Electricians, mechanics, plumbers and welders are just as useful to society as lawyers, doctors, professional managers, civil servants and teachers and should be equally valued. In school, pupils shouldn't be necessarily be encouraged to go to university, and learning a trade instead of entering higher education should be presented as an equally viable and respectable option.
I'm not really sure of the extent to which this social value existed in the first place, but it would be nice if society valued "the trades" as much as it did a university education. I think there's been a trend to emphasise the importance of university education in schools over learning a trade which has led to an over-supply of university graduates and an under supply of skilled trades people.
Electricians, mechanics, plumbers and welders are just as useful to society as lawyers, doctors, professional managers, civil servants and teachers and should be equally valued. In school, pupils shouldn't be necessarily be encouraged to go to university, and learning a trade instead of entering higher education should be presented as an equally viable and respectable option.
Multiculturalism acts in direct conflict with a national identity. That is why even in settler nations, a melting pot social structure is preferable to multiculturalism. It also creates an environment of mistrust within communities, as proven by a recent Harvard study.San Martin said:
Places like Europe or where ever else do not need multiculturalism because they already have a culture. Canada has no culture, therefor multiculturalism in a [flawed] way fills that void. But Germany has German culture, and it's the only place in the world where German culture exists. You only dilute that culture when you import thousands of immigrants and tell them it's okay to retain their previous culture instead of assimilating. There is nothing inherently positive about multiculturalism or diversity, and I say that as a student of the University of British Columbia- one of the most diverse communities on Earth. I have friends from very literally all around the world, but I do not value them because of that. I value them because they're good friends. Diversity means nothing to me. A diverse community is not better off than a homogenous community in anyway.
As for religion, it is a platform for self improvement which bonds communities and offers a solid moral backbone. The modern zeitgeist is confusion and nihilism.
This. I wear suits everywhere and people who don't know me always ask "why are you so dressed up?" and sometimes makes them uncomfortable.thaluikhain said:
Oh, and the OP's idea too. I always like to sleep when I take a flight, because it's the closest thing I have to teleporting somewhere, and always, freaking always, theres a noisy kid/baby there. I resorted to knocking myself out with a couple strong pills and a drink, so I guess I hate children so much that I'd rather die in the event of a plane crash than hear them.
Propriety! I swear, like, obviously I don't want the associated misogyny and rigid social classes, but I would not mind having to wear specific garb and refer to everyone as "my lord/lady" or by really long obnoxious names like "His Efficacy, Bill Nye of Washington, Purveyor of Science". That and bowing and curtseying is just plain fun imo.
Plus a whole lot of concepts from the ancient Arab world that were forcibly destroyed by European conquerors. Reading up on some of them, it really makes me wonder how humanity got so off track, when they clearly had a lot of things figured out from the start.
Plus a whole lot of concepts from the ancient Arab world that were forcibly destroyed by European conquerors. Reading up on some of them, it really makes me wonder how humanity got so off track, when they clearly had a lot of things figured out from the start.
Most "old" values are stuff I look at with scorn. Compleate and utter scorn. The idea that a nucelar family would be better than a divorced family is laughable to me (my grandpa always says his parents stayed together to show their kids what a unhappy marriage looked like) and the notion that purity or chasity was good makes me want to have an orgy.
That being said, there is one thing I'd like to see again. Old fashioned apprenticeship. No education? No problem! Dumb as a bag of nails? Learn what you need and little else! Are you ready to be a proffesional? Create your masterpiece to prove it!
Sure, you might spend 10 years learning how to treat a hammer, but you'll be darned good with that hammer in the end!
That being said, there is one thing I'd like to see again. Old fashioned apprenticeship. No education? No problem! Dumb as a bag of nails? Learn what you need and little else! Are you ready to be a proffesional? Create your masterpiece to prove it!
Sure, you might spend 10 years learning how to treat a hammer, but you'll be darned good with that hammer in the end!
Sorry for the slow reply.Wandering_Hero said:
To clarify, I'm not accusing you of being sexist. We both want equal treatment for everyone. What I'm saying is that feminists do too, with only a handful of exceptions, and I see no good reason to think otherwise.
Though it's not central to your argument, I would strongly disagree that American countries (such as Canada) lack their own culture by now!Westaway said:
However, overall I see your point, though I think a little diversity is a good thing to help make sure a society doesn't stagnate. But I agree that problems arise when people of distinct nations and entirely differing moral codes end up living in close proximity.
That's exactly why the hippies did the thing and those are a group I rather not see make a come back. War losin' little pot smokin.... *mutters incoherently*Entitled said:
I would like to see the LAbor Movement make a come back.
I'm rather fond of the feminism of Mary Wollstonecraft:
Equality for one half of the human race, without dragging down the other half.
Such a simple idea, and so fair. Just raise everybody up to the same level. Everybody gets to start from the same place, and meritocracy takes over from there.
And that idea comes to us from the year 1792.
Equality for one half of the human race, without dragging down the other half.
Such a simple idea, and so fair. Just raise everybody up to the same level. Everybody gets to start from the same place, and meritocracy takes over from there.
And that idea comes to us from the year 1792.
I disagree with this. I use bringing the appropriate clothing as a gauge of someones common sense, a large dedermining factor in whether I can get on with them. If the circumstances went something like "Blimey, the weather changed quickly, I don't have anything to handle this sudden torrential rain", I might respond by offering aid. Otherwise I expect that at some point in the future I will be this person:Witty Name Here said:
OT: I am a man of my word and I expect everyone I encounter to be the same.
I didn't say all American countries had no culture. I said Canada had no culture. It doesn't. I've lived here my whole life in three different cities and have traveled it extensively. There is no Canadian culture. Other American countries have created their own countries, but in most cases they've eliminated/subjugated the original population/culture. I care a lot more about cultures with long histories. England, Tibet, etc, which are at risk.San Martin said:
I don't think there's any reason to think diversity prevents stagnation.