Why do you think hospitals and healthcare staff were overwhelmed on an unprecedented during the pandemic, then, if its nothing to do with said pandemic?
"NAME ONE SINGLE TIME HE'S BEEN WRONG"
Two posts later:
"THAT DOESN'T COUNT OTHER PEOPLE WERE ALSO WRONG"
So much blah.
So you're just... insisting he didn't say those things that directly contradict your positions, because you've not... heard him say them in the podcasts?
No, dude. Paul Offit heartily encouraged kids to get vaccinated, and for masks and social distancing to continue after people vaccinate. I'm sorry that the guy you're lauding doesn't actually agree with your careless, who-gives-a-shit approach to public health.
The departments that care for covid patients could have been overwhelmed at times in certain places but saying the entire hospital was overwhelmed with a 40% drop in admissions... how? Many medical personnel were not working and sitting on their butts. Also, patients were funneled to the hospital by their own policies. It was poor allocation of medical resources that caused a hospital to be overwhelmed with admission drops so high.
An early prediction is Paul Offit being wrong on actual SCIENCE? What vaccine and immunological science has he ever been wrong on? And his prediction was the scientific consensus at the time, the thing you place so much value on, you know it changes over time because that's how science works, it changes as we learn more and more about something.
I'm not saying he didn't say those things (you have no source saying he did though), but people's stances change over time. When I started listening to podcasts with him was past the time of masks and social distancing so it was never a talking point is all, and he's the vaccine expert so vaccine questions would obviously get asked vs more general covid things. I very much doubt you'll find anything within the past year of Offit recommending masks or social distancing. Look at how Dr. Leana Wen's stances have changed and she's even gotten turned on by the public health mob when she was perhaps the staunchest of covid safety preachers.
I do very much care about public health, but I stay focused on the forest and not just the covid tree. Look at the
excess death Europe is showing that have virtually nothing to do with covid, and in several countries excess deaths are higher now than at peak covid. You think focusing on a singular public health issue that is rather harmless to the majority of the population is a good thing? 1) you then will ignore other public health issues that are more serious and 2) the very measures you put in place to slow covid are contributing to those more serious and ignored public health issues. It's only been 2 years and we are already seeing the effects. Childhood type 2 diabetes climbed up 77% during the pandemic in the US. You think keeping kids out of school and out of activities during the pandemic actually positively affected their health? Whatever minor covid health benefit they may have gotten from that is far outweighed by all the costs suffered from those covid policies. We probably couldn't have done worse for the kids if we tried.
Is there something that you skip in this quote?
Becuase (assuming that you got this from Offit) you've just turned him into an idiot who clearly overclaims what the consensus says who can be disproven by just reciting what you said above
The consensus isn't for boosters, why do you think the top FDA officials Marion Gruber and Philip Krause resigned over covid boosters? Because the White House was politically pushing for them when the data wasn't there and still isn't there to this day. Don't you find it funny the CDC won't release booster data for those under 50? Just maybe, it's because the data shows it does nothing because if it showed benefit, they'd be screaming it from the rooftops.
As someone who doesn't have any (known) immunity issues, nah. The general consensus is that Omicron is far less deadly than Alpha or Delta and as almost everyone has either been vaccinated or infected in the past I consider it as just another flu (now). I'll probably get my anti-omicron booster though. Only habit I have adopted since Covid is to work at home when I am sick and also wearing a mask when going to stores in that case, even if it's just a cold.
It's hardly a good booster for omicron though because it's bivalent and a low dose.
No, the other thing that was a little concerning is, there were really pretty good animal model studies done by Bob Sedar at his lab at NIH using non-human primates, rhesus macaques. And what he did was he sort of gave those animals two doses of the ancestral strain. And then either the third dose was, again, another dose of the ancestral strain or the Omicron only, and then challenged the animals with Omicron. But again, and what he found was no difference. There was no difference in protection of those animals against moderate or severe illness. So therefore, the animal model studies also didn’t make a case for what we’re trying to do here.
Is there any effect of the sort of the… What do you call it? Original antigenic sin, where it was already exposed to the original?
– There’s always that. I think that’s always the hill we’re trying to climb here because I think if you took, say a 20-year-old who had never been naturally infected, never had been vaccinated and gave them just say BA.4/BA.5, you’d see a dramatically greater neutralizing antibody response than these folks, like me, who’s been sort of given three doses of vaccine, naturally infected you sort of lock in to that original response. And that’s right. So when you then go to the germinal center, the B-cells that have already seen sort of the epitopes on Wuhan-1 that are also contained on say, BA.4/BA.5, those will be expanded much more readily than will the new regions that you’re trying to promote, which is why you just don’t see that good of an immune response.
And why do you want to get the flu? I haven't been sick at all since Covid started and I don't miss it in the slightest.
Because I miss out on more life if I try avoid getting colds/flus/covid than the life I miss out on from being sick.
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