Pachter: "Nintendo Is Doomed"

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Haaaa, what an idiot.
They've sold 5 times as many DS's than there are Canadians.
Doomed my ass.

Not if he's right in 2015. Just because the DS(etc.) is the shit now doesn't mean nintendo are fuckwit proof, plenty of companies have ruined themselves before with willful stupidity.

Nintendo almost bit the big one with the Gamecube, and the Virtual Boy before it (thanks to Lisa Foiles for sharing that). Nintendo aren't immune to big mistakes, but if history is any indicator then the product that follows any disappointment will immediately put Nintendo at the top of the hill again.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

On an unrelated note, the ReCaptcha gave me this:

Do not question Inglip. INVOR MONTPELLIER!

 

[jamesworkshop]

"Long-term, Nintendo is doomed," he said of the company's fight for the handheld market against iOS devices

Pachter didn't say nintendo was going die only lose grip on the handheld market to Apple

Sometimes I really do believe that nobody reads anything below the title

Other than that Iwata is puzzling it was casual internet flash/java games that inspired the Wii's direction in the first place, you people have a strange idea of history if you think Nintendo Wii predates PopCap Games

 

[Flamezdudes]

Man, that would be a great dream wouldn't it... Nintendo dying... sweet. I hope they get killed off atleast!

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Besides, if that statement about success right after a disappointment were true then the Gamecube would have put them on top because the N64 was also a disappointment.

I thought the Gameboy Advanced was released between those two consoles.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

Nintendo is always doomed according to some people, including that clown Pachter. With the 3DS releasing this year they have no worries

 

[GeorgW]

I agree with Nintendo, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a bad buissness move. Like it or not, apple is winning.

 

[BlindMessiah94]

So if he made the comments at GDC "this week", why does the link to those comments lead to an article written in May 2010? I'm confused.

 

[HellspawnCandy]

Trust me, Apple can barely do anything against them. Their games are so terrible and try to suck as much money from people as possible. The reason why it's so popular is because of casual gamers, who need a phone and probably won't buy a DS.

 

[SuperTrainStationH]

The only Wii game that Nintendo's put out that's genuinely lacking in quality or could be considered "bad", (besides Other M, but at least Team Ninja TRIED, it wasn't like they just didn't care) was Wii Music.

All the shovelware on the Wii pretty much amounts to third parties looking at Wii Sports and Wii Fit, assuming that Nintendo put minimal effort into it just because its not a graphically intense, in depth adventure, and then assign their third string teams to cobble together a "Wii (noun/verb)" series wannabe. Then they start complaining when their game sells poorly and blame Nintendo for "dominating the market" with their own games.

I think Miyamoto actually said something to the effect of "Don't assume our Mii based games are just rubbish we slapped together. We put our top teams into those games, third parties have to do the same if you want to sell well.".

That aside, "Nintendo is doomed" is pretty much par for the course whenever Nintendo's on the verge of their greatest success yet.

 

[Royta]

As long as Metroid, Mario and Zelda exist, the company will never die. Their games have a unique taste that other games cannot match or copy. To delve further into this, Nintendo is always the innovator, while the others follow in their footsteps.
Kinect and Move would never have happened without Nintendo, never.

That being said, I don't know if I agree with their statement that the market is shifting towards the more casual games while the big titles don't get attention. Mostly because they rarely make non-casual games anymore if at all. Donkey Kong was the only one in recent memory that I remember destroying me over and over again.

 

[sylekage]

Well since nintendo has been around since literally the beginning of the business, I think it's safe to say they'll be fine.

This guy, though, seems like a tool.

 

[Tiswas]

Nintendo is dying with these lack of pre-orders for 3DS. DYING!

They'll die even more with release of Pokemon Black and White.

 

[veloper]

It's true that Nintendo could lose the fight against Apple over handhelds.

People unfortunately want overly expensive phones that can play shitty games and run out of battery life so you can't call anyone, instead of a small cheap phone that simply works as intended AND a PSP or (3)DS that can play decent games.

I would want Nintendo to succeed with the 3DS, because it's an ambitious and good gaming device and that effort should be rewarded, but I'm not the average drooling consumer. People want shitty apps, instead of quality.

 

[Hulk Snake]

All the shovelware on the Wii pretty much amounts to third parties looking at Wii Sports and Wii Fit, assuming that Nintendo put minimal effort into it just because its not a graphically intense, in depth adventure, and then assign their third string teams to cobble together a "Wii (noun/verb)" series wannabe. Then they start complaining when their game sells poorly and blame Nintendo for "dominating the market" with their own games.

I think Miyamoto actually said something to the effect of "Don't assume our Mii based games are just rubbish we slapped together. We put our top teams into those games, third parties have to do the same if you want to sell well.".

This needed quoting.
That's the great thing about the wii, it separated the lazy devs (like Ubisoft) from the smarter devs (like Grasshopper).

 

[Adam Galli]

Nintendo isn't going anywhere. They've face lots of opposition in their 2+ decades of being in the market and they're still here.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Nintendo pretty much defined the handheld market, does this man seriously know what he's talking about?

 

[Jaker the Baker]

No. Mr. Reynolds of Zynga, you're not making "social games for everybody". I'm offended that you even call them "games" at all. They're programs designed to be addicting via a strict regimented reward system. All you're creating is ad-fuel. NINTENDO makes games. Not you.

 

[ArchAngelKira]

It was bound to happen, the only way I see Nintendo not be "doomed" is if they make another kind of handheld system and add more screens because we know all to well they love to do that.

 

[Jumwa]

The only Wii game that Nintendo's put out that's genuinely lacking in quality or could be considered "bad", (besides Other M, but at least Team Ninja TRIED, it wasn't like they just didn't care) was Wii Music.

All the shovelware on the Wii pretty much amounts to third parties looking at Wii Sports and Wii Fit, assuming that Nintendo put minimal effort into it just because its not a graphically intense, in depth adventure, and then assign their third string teams to cobble together a "Wii (noun/verb)" series wannabe. Then they start complaining when their game sells poorly and blame Nintendo for "dominating the market" with their own games.

I think Miyamoto actually said something to the effect of "Don't assume our Mii based games are just rubbish we slapped together. We put our top teams into those games, third parties have to do the same if you want to sell well.".

That aside, "Nintendo is doomed" is pretty much par for the course whenever Nintendo's on the verge of their greatest success yet.

Well said.

Iwata's just ahead of the curve. As latecomers to the "casual boom", companies like EA just aren't understanding what's made the Wii and other big casual games successes. They think it's all about just pumping out crap tailored for people who don't play games.

Iwata realizes that casual gamers can be as discerning as the most "hardcore", they are only limited by their selection. That's why nobody is buying the shovelware on Wii, because they can buy good games instead.

Now, in a few areas, such as Zynga, some not-so-great game makers made it big with some not-so-great games. However, it's typically because they were in the right place at the right time, taking advantage of a situation nobody else was. It's probably safe to say that boat has sailed already, and if you want to compete now, then you're going to have to invest more money to fight for market share. Y'know, just like Iwata is saying.