Parents Group Denounces Supreme Court Decision
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I most have lucked out since my parents bought what every I asked for with out question in terms of the game in question. I had Doom, Wolfenstien 3D, Duke Nukem 3D, Quake, Unreal Torny, Diablo, and all before age 11 
. You know what my parents did, TAUGHT ME THAT GAMES AND REAL LIFE ARE TOO DIFFERENT THINGS AND TO KNOW TO ALWAYS SEPARATE THE BLOODY TWO. Yep I had my first "M" game at age 4 and I turned out well.
. You know what my parents did, TAUGHT ME THAT GAMES AND REAL LIFE ARE TOO DIFFERENT THINGS AND TO KNOW TO ALWAYS SEPARATE THE BLOODY TWO. Yep I had my first "M" game at age 4 and I turned out well.
You do know that consoles (At least the PS3 anyway, I don't know about the xbox, as I don't have one) have a parental control system that prohibits the playing of games from a rating level of your choice upwards? It's really not that difficult to control what kind of games your kids play.666Chaos said:
Y'know, with all of the misguided and wasted effort that the PTC puts into ridiculous fights, just imagine if they channeled all of that effort into being parents and educating other parents on being better parents.
We would have a group of parents actually involved in their children's lives and after that who knows, we could end up with an awesome upcoming generation of people because their parents stopped being idiots and became caring and nurturing sources of guidance.
However, that's never going to happen because that just makes way too much sense and we all know that common sense is a rare gift nowadays; practically a super power because it's so rare.
We would have a group of parents actually involved in their children's lives and after that who knows, we could end up with an awesome upcoming generation of people because their parents stopped being idiots and became caring and nurturing sources of guidance.
However, that's never going to happen because that just makes way too much sense and we all know that common sense is a rare gift nowadays; practically a super power because it's so rare.
I was 17 when Fable 2 came out, but I could have easily passed for 20. I'm 6'1, built so big that the least I could ever weigh even with zero body fat is probably 180, and I have a beard. Regardless of this, I was denied sale of Fable 2 by the lady who worked at Gamestop who could stay nothing to comfort me except for the fact she could lose her job if I was under 17 and she sold me that game. Sure, it was my fault I was late on the uptake of getting a driver's license, so all the ID I had was a driving permit with a really grainy picture that actually didn't look a damn thing like me. That didn't stop me from being really mad that I then had to walk home and wait for my mom to get off work before I could get my hands on this game.
So yeah, they're batshit crazy if they think retailers don't do enough to enforce the sale of mature games to underage kids. I'd bet most parents don't even look at the box when their kid asks for a game, then they flip out when they see their kid rip the skull out of their enemy's head and then use the leftover skin flop as a faprag.
So yeah, they're batshit crazy if they think retailers don't do enough to enforce the sale of mature games to underage kids. I'd bet most parents don't even look at the box when their kid asks for a game, then they flip out when they see their kid rip the skull out of their enemy's head and then use the leftover skin flop as a faprag.
Why is it whenever you hear about an organization with the words "family" or "parents" you can replace that word with "bunch of puritanical busybody assholes who want to impose their ignorant repressed lifestyle on everyone else" and that would accurately describe who they are?
This seems to remind me of 1980s parent groups trying to get music labelled with "violent/occult/sexual themes etc"
Yeah, parents you could actually, you know, walk by the tv and see whether your son and/or daughter is blowing kittens heads off with a shotgun or playing happy adventure pony land...
people are always trying to shift the blame away from themselves it seems.
Yeah, parents you could actually, you know, walk by the tv and see whether your son and/or daughter is blowing kittens heads off with a shotgun or playing happy adventure pony land...
people are always trying to shift the blame away from themselves it seems.
i don't get it
why are there even ratings if they are not enforced?
yeah sure it's nice for parents to know what they want or don't want to buy for their children but children know what they want and most children have the funds and freedom to buy what they want
so the ratings are more like encouraging symbols for them to buy the most extreme content they can get
enforcing the ratings for games is not more evil than forbidding kids to visit strip clubs and porn movies
hell kids aren't even allowed to gamble or drink alcohol
so why the big fuzz about it?
why is that infringing the first amendment and the other stuff kids aren't allowed to do not?
why are there even ratings if they are not enforced?
yeah sure it's nice for parents to know what they want or don't want to buy for their children but children know what they want and most children have the funds and freedom to buy what they want
so the ratings are more like encouraging symbols for them to buy the most extreme content they can get
enforcing the ratings for games is not more evil than forbidding kids to visit strip clubs and porn movies
hell kids aren't even allowed to gamble or drink alcohol
so why the big fuzz about it?
why is that infringing the first amendment and the other stuff kids aren't allowed to do not?
As a parent who is also a gamer, I'd like to say...
DO YOUR JOB AS A PARENT AND PARENT.
This isn't just about gaming, parents in this country nowadays want shit so regulated that they can basically push the kid out and say 'done' and return to life. What you feed your child, what you put in front of your child's face (be it gaming, television, movies or literature) are all under YOUR control until they are legally able to make their own decisions. Stop sitting there and bemoaning the availability of porn, R rated movies, and M rated games when your lazy ass is the one enabling your child by actively not monitoring their cultural consumption.
This is not, by any means, a rant on how parents should be frightening, controlling freaks. It is instead an appeal to a bygone era of common sense and needs.
I know this post is in vain, but it felt better to get that off my chest anyways. I get so terribly sickened by the people I have to share the title of "parent" with.
DO YOUR JOB AS A PARENT AND PARENT.
This isn't just about gaming, parents in this country nowadays want shit so regulated that they can basically push the kid out and say 'done' and return to life. What you feed your child, what you put in front of your child's face (be it gaming, television, movies or literature) are all under YOUR control until they are legally able to make their own decisions. Stop sitting there and bemoaning the availability of porn, R rated movies, and M rated games when your lazy ass is the one enabling your child by actively not monitoring their cultural consumption.
This is not, by any means, a rant on how parents should be frightening, controlling freaks. It is instead an appeal to a bygone era of common sense and needs.
I know this post is in vain, but it felt better to get that off my chest anyways. I get so terribly sickened by the people I have to share the title of "parent" with.
The youngest of children? Like, six? How is a kid going to get to a game store with $60+ dollars in hand and Buy DNF? When I was that age I barely had enough money for a soda; and even then I had to work in the tobacco fields for three weeks. I didn't even have the hand-eye coordination to play Link.
Saming as always idiot parents:
Look after your fucking kids instead of expecting other people to do it for you, seriously are you that fucking stupid?
You know what MY dad did when he didn't want be doing something? HE STOPPED ME DOING IT!
Himself.
Because he was a GOOD PARENT.
When t comes down to it much like television or movies games also have an age rating on them, it tells you jackasses whether the game is suitable for your kids, if it says 15+ and your kid is 12 then you don't buy it, infact scratch that, you make an informed decision based on how mature you think your kid is and how well he or she might cope with the content of the game and then decide whether to buy it for them. But then of course, you're all a bunch of lazy, bad, self-righteous parents.
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Ah, I feel much better venting that, as you may have gathered I get rather angry when people are such bad parents that they expect the government to look after their kids for them.
There is no excuse as to why these parents aren't supervising their children properly, I won't accept that it's because they have a job because if they really care about their kids they would either arrange to have less hours or find a job that will allow that.
Look after your fucking kids instead of expecting other people to do it for you, seriously are you that fucking stupid?
You know what MY dad did when he didn't want be doing something? HE STOPPED ME DOING IT!
Himself.
Because he was a GOOD PARENT.
When t comes down to it much like television or movies games also have an age rating on them, it tells you jackasses whether the game is suitable for your kids, if it says 15+ and your kid is 12 then you don't buy it, infact scratch that, you make an informed decision based on how mature you think your kid is and how well he or she might cope with the content of the game and then decide whether to buy it for them. But then of course, you're all a bunch of lazy, bad, self-righteous parents.
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Ah, I feel much better venting that, as you may have gathered I get rather angry when people are such bad parents that they expect the government to look after their kids for them.
There is no excuse as to why these parents aren't supervising their children properly, I won't accept that it's because they have a job because if they really care about their kids they would either arrange to have less hours or find a job that will allow that.
No, their decision does not "replace the authority of parents", it give parents the authority to make decisions on what games their children play. If the decision had been different, then parents' authority would have been replaced with that of the government. These people have very bad logic
Because they're the sorts of parents who will either:Potato Ola said:
A) Give their kids tons of pocket money to make up for the time they don't spend th their kids because they're too busy working. (Because they'rebad parents and work means more to them than their own kids. Children need parents when they're growing up, not money)
B) Buy the games for their kids to keep them quiet. (Yes, these people are so stupid that they'll defeat their own argument before they even make it)
My humane response: "Well then! I hope I never turn into that." My gamer's spirit response: "...Fuck you."
In all seriousness, this is stupid. The parents think that video game retailers will sell games to kids? There's the whole thing about needing a parent and that's not even a law! Yeah it means it may not be enforced everywhere, but still. Mr. Winter and I need to have a long talk about that bill too: He states that it would've prevented minors from selling games, but that's the thing!
If he's against stuff that's "bad" for kids, then he hasn't been in a video game retailer like GameStop. Does he really think that ever game store in the U.S. will withhold video games from minors? There's always gonna be that one guy who had a rough day and forgets the law. But it won't just be one place, it'll be a ton. The fact that they believe it wouldn't harm the video game industry is a stupid thing to not realize.
In all seriousness, this is stupid. The parents think that video game retailers will sell games to kids? There's the whole thing about needing a parent and that's not even a law! Yeah it means it may not be enforced everywhere, but still. Mr. Winter and I need to have a long talk about that bill too: He states that it would've prevented minors from selling games, but that's the thing!
If he's against stuff that's "bad" for kids, then he hasn't been in a video game retailer like GameStop. Does he really think that ever game store in the U.S. will withhold video games from minors? There's always gonna be that one guy who had a rough day and forgets the law. But it won't just be one place, it'll be a ton. The fact that they believe it wouldn't harm the video game industry is a stupid thing to not realize.
My reaction to the PTC's reaction, as expressed by a violent video game.
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I realise I'm not the first to be struck by this idea. Oh well. It bears repeating.
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I realise I'm not the first to be struck by this idea. Oh well. It bears repeating.
D.S
The thing is if a parent is that concerned about something that is not even going to harm their kids then they can simply take the short time to learn about the parental controls of the PS3 or 360. Set up password accounts for themselves as the admin and simply not allow their kids account(s) to play the games they don't want them to. Real hard to do...I know, would've taken minutes to learn!666Chaos said:
Parents have to do their damn job and not freak out when the world shows them something they don't want the kid to see.
"The carefully worded California statute..."
Are they being serious? The reason this decision was 7-2 instead of 5-4 is because Alito and Roberts thought the wording of the California law was faaaaaaar too vague to be accepted as a Constitutionally allowed law. I guess they neglected to read the entire decision of the court and instead just heard what they wanted to hear.
Are they being serious? The reason this decision was 7-2 instead of 5-4 is because Alito and Roberts thought the wording of the California law was faaaaaaar too vague to be accepted as a Constitutionally allowed law. I guess they neglected to read the entire decision of the court and instead just heard what they wanted to hear.