Please uninstall Ad Blocker.

[Jennacide]

*ahem* No.

From my experience with ad revenue companies, some still count views even when the ad was blocked. So screw your guilt tripping, that's why they have Publisher's Club.

 

[Aprilgold]

No. It's my right not to be raped by tracker cookies.

So, your saying its not your right to pay people who run, maintain the site your currently on? I'm sorry, I didn't know you are a god that doesn't think any grubby mortal living by hard work should get paid for it. Look at it like this, lets say a quarter of the users here use ad blocker, now lets say you work here, now lets say that each ad that is generated PER PAGE does, about 100$, and lets guess a quater of the users is 2,000, thats about 2,000$ PER PAGE of ads you block, and that money could go to the site, and your not being payed your best and may be layed off because the company can't afford to keep you. You realize that you don't even have to click, the ad just has to be generated for it to give money to the website, in this case, the Escapist, I'd like to point out every single person on here is on the Escapists forums which they pay to run. That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

Three words: flawed business model.

In short, a company's actions need to suit the customer, not the other way round. If it can't (and The Escapist has proved time and time again that this is probably the case) then the company will go under. Simple.

I don't think its flawed, they wouldn't drop shows that didn't have a large following if they hadn't. If ads are an issue, then its their placement. Think about it, I have an ad playing to the right of me right now for the Creators Project, and am I bothered, no, because its no sound. If having something playing next to where you should be looking is an issue, why are you on the computer? Why are you dancing around the TV, or games for that matter? Just think of your reasoning, their business model is the god damn same as Youtubes, but without sound ads. They have ads so they can get revenue, its flawed to think this business model is flawed when no one has shot up a post or customer serviced it, instead, they go to ad blocker, the thing that cuts revenue for a website.

I want every FireFox user to uninstall...

Every Firefox user?

Suppose I don't have to uninstall it from Chrome then do I? ;D

yay loopholes FTW!

but seriously people get paid whenever someone clicks on the ad to be redirected to the ad site. to 'help' the escapist you would have to click on every advert a couple of hundred times with different ips.

and from what i've read this 'solution' won't help in the long run....

They just have to be loaded, not clicked. Its a mis-conception, sorta... Basically, if my page loads an ad, then Escapist gets revenue because it loaded an ad. With Ad Blocker, it stops the ad's script from apearing, so no revenue, thats why I asked for people to un install it.

 

[Olikunmissile]

No. It's my right not to be raped by tracker cookies.

So, your saying its not your right to pay people who run, maintain the site your currently on? I'm sorry, I didn't know you are a god that doesn't think any grubby mortal living by hard work should get paid for it. Look at it like this, lets say a quarter of the users here use ad blocker, now lets say you work here, now lets say that each ad that is generated PER PAGE does, about 100$, and lets guess a quater of the users is 2,000, thats about 2,000$ PER PAGE of ads you block, and that money could go to the site, and your not being payed your best and may be layed off because the company can't afford to keep you. You realize that you don't even have to click, the ad just has to be generated for it to give money to the website, in this case, the Escapist, I'd like to point out every single person on here is on the Escapists forums which they pay to run. That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

Wow, I just wrote an entire paragraph response to this, but once again the escapist and all of it's code clashes induced by all the shitty ads and meebo crap lost the post. So it just proves my point further about how they're going about ads the wrong way making them so intrusive.

Get off your high fanboy horse. Ads, fine, making them this intrusive? Not.

 

[Generalissimo]

no, i won't stop. it's the price THEY pay, for making them so bloody inconvenient

 

[Bobbity]

The Escapist isn't bastardy enough to use pop-ups, thankfully, they just stick ads in our videos and post them around the site. Ad blockers are totally irrelevant to this site anyway.

 

[TimeLord]

Come guys, we can do it. Everyone link arms and chant "We care".

I think we should all gather at the centre of the internet and chant; "Give peace a chance".

Incidentally, that was also a suggested solution for dealing with the London riots. Well it was more standing between the rioters and police and shouting, "Can't we all just get along!?". Which might work in this situation also...

 

[Nyquisted]

I'm not going to remove my ad-blocker, but you've guilt-tripped me into disabling it.

I think it would help me if you had a greater variety of adverts on your content though Escapist.
And I think it's especially ironic that most of your ads are for movies or games that your own pundits have made fun of (case and point, the Battle for Los Angeles ads, when your own MovieBob review slates it).

However I would hate to think that the Extra Credits was forced to leave because of over zealous use of ad-blockers by readers of this site.

 

[Nexoram]

Uh, I have AdBlocker but I disable on sites that I want to support (such as this one ^^) and I'm disappointed in the Escapist for Extra Creditz.

 

[Loves2spooge]

Websites get money for agreeing to place ads, and get a kickback for whenever the ads are clicked. It doesn't matter whether you have an ad blocker in place or not.

It's an individual's right to choose what they consume and what they're exposed to; if you feel so passionate about keeping one of your websites funded, why don't you offer them a donation?

 

[Aprilgold]

No. It's my right not to be raped by tracker cookies.

So, your saying its not your right to pay people who run, maintain the site your currently on? I'm sorry, I didn't know you are a god that doesn't think any grubby mortal living by hard work should get paid for it. Look at it like this, lets say a quarter of the users here use ad blocker, now lets say you work here, now lets say that each ad that is generated PER PAGE does, about 100$, and lets guess a quater of the users is 2,000, thats about 2,000$ PER PAGE of ads you block, and that money could go to the site, and your not being payed your best and may be layed off because the company can't afford to keep you. You realize that you don't even have to click, the ad just has to be generated for it to give money to the website, in this case, the Escapist, I'd like to point out every single person on here is on the Escapists forums which they pay to run. That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

Wow, I just wrote an entire paragraph response to this, but once again the escapist and all of it's code clashes induced by all the shitty ads and meebo crap lost the post. So it just proves my point further about how they're going about ads the wrong way making them so intrusive.

Get off your high fanboy horse. Ads, fine, making them this intrusive? Not.

I'm going to ask, how? For all I know, you could have a bad connection, or could just be lagging with the central server a bit. And yes, how is this a fan boy statement when it applies everywhere I just made it apply to the Escapist for this scenario since I'm on its forums. It would be a fan boyish thing to say that it isn't a problem, but I have said no such thing, and just ask that people give money to the company that is running the website they are on currently. I wouldn't go around town taking news papers and not paying the people who make them, would I? Would you?

Now, again, how are they intrusive? Isn't intrusive similar to invasion, how are they invading you? How are they intruding on you? Your surfing the website that they have to pay to keep running, and they have to pay to keep up to spec, why not just disable it, if you have an issue with ads, theres customer service for that reason. Or you could take your business elsewhere, because having ad blocker installed and active is doing the same thing as just leaving the site.

I'm not going to remove my ad-blocker, but you've guilt-tripped me into disabling it.

I think it would help me if you had a greater variety of adverts on your content though Escapist.
And I think it's especially ironic that most of your ads are for movies or games that your own pundits have made fun of (case and point, the Battle for Los Angeles ads, when your own MovieBob review slates it).

However I would hate to think that the Extra Credits was forced to leave because of over zealous use of ad-blockers by readers of this site.

I can't thank you enough for disabling it for this site, I seriously can not. It proves you have a conciseness, and that proves you are a good person. I respect you and can not say thank you in any way, shape or form that would make it any more of my happiness that you did such an act. Thank you. On your Extra Credits statement, it could have been for money troubles, damned if I know, but money troubles can come from Ad Blocker being used by Non Pub members. I started this right after reading they were leaving, mainly because I just want people to be aware that it DOES hurt the website having it in use here.

 

[Deathninja19]

I don't care on your taste of shows, but they dropped Lisa, Extra Credits and may drop Bob soon, and thats signs of starting to struggle. I'm assuming Jim approached them, because he was getting more hated over on his former site or something. I ask to un install because this isn't a one case basis thing, it applies everywhere. This means Youtube, and other establishments aren't being able to pay their workers, meaning pay cuts and pink slips. Now, I don't know if your aware, but in America, were having a job loss thing going on. If we were to get people to simply remove Ad Blocker, then we could probably have not as high of a percentage. Theres many other ways this is not a good program, but there ARE my reasons why I asked.

Sorry I think you misunderstood my point, I don't care about the quality of shows nor did my point have anything to do with my taste. What I was saying is that the Escapist expanded far too fast especially if they couldn't afford to pay people like Robert Moran of Unforgotten Realms whose show ended over a year ago.

I'll make this clear the Escapist money troubles and the Adblocker debate should not be put together, that was a case of a business being poorly run.

I'll also make it clear that I 100% agree with your points about Adblocker, watching ads is a way to give back to the creators. It's immature to complain about ads because it's basically the same model as TV, we watch ads, the ad companies pay whoever owns the show and they pay the contributers. The only example of using Adblocker I agree with is to prevent tracking cookies, they are an invasion of privacy and should not exist.

 

[FPSMadPaul]

What if you're in the pub club? ¬_¬;

Your already paying to remove ads, thus supporting the Escapist by paying X time for special things. To answer you when you replied, its simple, Youtube does the same thing.

Youtube- Puts ad at begging of video, ad pay youtube for the space, youtube make money to pay to people who are very liked by the community bringing people into it and being paid to upload.

Escapist - Puts ad before and at the end of video, ad company pays Escapist for using their ad, then they make money to pay for people who contribute videos or comics, news or whatever for them.

Since we're in the pub club, and we're PubClubSubs, we've got nothing to block, do we?

I too was thinking this, no point disabling it if there's nothing there for us to see.

 

[stewox]

The more intrusive are the ads the more i don't care about the site

I mostly blocks annoying ads with stupid faces and weirdo things such as those stupid FUCKING BUSTEDTEES ADS - they couldn't have came up with more faggy word than this.

And unrelated stuff such as some stupid things that i don't care about.

But mostly - ads are totally fine if they just sit there and do nothing.


Moving/Scroll following ads are instantly blocked - i hate that shit.
The more flashy and distracting the ad is the more chance it'll get blocked.

Eg, The more the AD tries to be noticable - the more chance it will get ignored. And even if it's something i do care about - still blocked - just out of spite!

 

[BoogieManFL]

Ads are usually designed to be invasive, obstructing, and overly harsh in appearance. If they were designed to be less annoying I wouldn't mind them.

The ads that are forced upon you like the ones before videos are the worst. Even more when sound controls are disabled for them. If a website has even one of those I'll just block them all and that's perfectly reasonable. Don't force them on me. If they just sit quietly on the edge I'd allow them but that's rarely the case.

I've disabled my adblocker for this site as of now, we'll see how it goes. If one gets forced on me though, no promises.

 

[Aprilgold]

no, i won't stop. it's the price THEY pay, for making them so bloody inconvenient

So they serve you, someone who came to their website, using their forums? You realize their inconvenient so you will join the Pub Club, that way they still make the cash they would normally get from you, and you have no right to complain, because the alternative is there. Again, their a company, if you want the ads gone, but want to do the right thing and support them, join the pub club, other then that, shut up. You have no reason to not support the website your currently using to read my reply, to be on their forums, which they maintain, run and hire people to keep up to standard.

Ads are usually designed to be invasive, obstructing, and overly harsh in appearance. If they were designed to be less annoying I wouldn't mind them.

The ads that are forced upon you like the ones before videos are the worst. Even more when sound controls are disabled for them. If a website has even one of those I'll block their adds forever because that's just BS. Don't force them on me.

Their all flashy so you WILL get annoyed and join the Pub Club, that way your still supporting the site, other than that, using Ad Block isn't exactly the nicest thing to do to a website your currently using.

 

[Zeren]

When the ads stop being intrusive and the mods stop banning people for mentioning adblockers I will whitelist the Escapist, but not until then.

 

[Olikunmissile]

Yawn, snip.

Oh I'm sorry, you're one of those, pubclub elitist sorts who can't understand things beyond the end of their nose. Just because it isn't happening to you means it surely doesn't exist and everyone else is a silly bugger for not being the glorious you in your pubclub.

Captcha ads. Meebo bar. 30sec+ adverts on videos, tracking cookies, facebook linkup (Admittedly that's not too bad, but it seemed like it could do with being thrown in.) And all the other little ads here and there.

But like I said, because you can't see them, they obviously don't exist! How silly of me to be living in such a fabrication.

 

[Nalgas D. Lemur]

So, your saying its not your right to pay people who run, maintain the site your currently on? I'm sorry, I didn't know you are a god that doesn't think any grubby mortal living by hard work should get paid for it. Look at it like this, lets say a quarter of the users here use ad blocker, now lets say you work here, now lets say that each ad that is generated PER PAGE does, about 100$, and lets guess a quater of the users is 2,000, thats about 2,000$ PER PAGE of ads you block, and that money could go to the site, and your not being payed your best and may be layed off because the company can't afford to keep you. You realize that you don't even have to click, the ad just has to be generated for it to give money to the website, in this case, the Escapist, I'd like to point out every single person on here is on the Escapists forums which they pay to run. That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

This whole thread is pretty funny, but this post deserves a prize. From here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/content/about]: "The Escapist is part of Themis Group, Inc.'s online media arm Themis Media, and currently generates over 50 million page views each month." I think that's just slightly more than two thousand, even after accounting for each person viewing multiple pages.

You're also off by a few orders of magnitude on how much each ad pays. Some text ads can pay as little as a fraction of a cent per view, depending on what's being advertised by whom on what site, and even the most obnoxious and intrusive ads were usually still measured in cents most of the time last time I checked. Prices are of course better the more irritating they are (and you get bonus points if you actually get people to sign up for things or install stuff on their computer through them), but that kind of escalating crap is why people started using ad blockers in the first place...

 

[katsumoto03]

They only seem to be able to afford ZP and LRR (and all shows done by them) even with the ad revenue. I think they really do need the money.

That said, do whatever the fuck you want. I keep ads on but never click them.

EDIT: Just read up on the Extra Credits v. Escapist controversy and now I'm in the mindset of, "Fuck the Escapist"

 

[Knight Templar]

Oddly I can't remember the last time I got a non-escapist ad, they are all for LRR and such. Anyway I don't use adbolckers, I only have one in case an ad is glitching up and preventing me from even using the site.

I don't think it's right to both make use of a site and block their source of revenue.