Please uninstall Ad Blocker.

[Aprilgold]

Oh, hey, a guilt trip, because everybody needs to feel sorry for a website that pulls in millions.

>Makes millions
>Can't pay the ten grand or so to keep its second-third strongest source of content in the site.

Ignorance?

1: I don't really care about Extra Credits. Never liked it. Can't say I'll miss it. 2: If you read the update, they're claiming they paid up. There's a part of the story we don't know.

Regardless the fact that there's a massive shitstorm over money that's a drop in the hat for a company "That rakes in millions" would imply that the reasoning is wrong. If they raked in millions people would be paid on time without trouble.

Anyway, where are these millions coming from?

Not my concern, not my problem. And honestly, if I told the truth regarding my thoughts on the topic of this thread I'd get mod wrath. The reason I said what I did is to avoid it.

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To point this out, its irreverent the show, I don't care if you care about this religion or that, but you signed up to a website that specifically needs money to run, with you blocking ads, their not getting some money, so people will be layed off as a result. If you don't care, why are you here then? The forums could shut down because of loss of revenue, also, you might be in breach of one of the rules you signed up on, for using and admitting your using ad blocker. Its blocking their revenue, your taking up server space, you can be booted for being arrogant and not supporting the site which you are using a special bit for. Ads don't have to be clicked, just loaded, you could, potentially, be hurting any performer on here, formely extra credits, you could be hurting Yahtzee, Jim, Movie Bob, any of the comic guys, the news team, it doesn't matter, your hurting the whole website. I asked you to disable ad blocker for this site because, honestly, a 10 second ad at the begging of the video means more money to those who run and work for the site.

Edit: Go ahead, say your heart, I could care less what shit you could say, because you apparently are fine with yourself, letting people who are as hard working as you go with pay cuts and other sorts of things.

 

[Deathninja19]

Don't have adblocker i have noscripts instead

Totally off topic but you sir have the best avatar I've seen on the Escapist.

 

[Olikunmissile]

No. It's my right not to be raped by tracker cookies.

So, your saying its not your right to pay people who run, maintain the site your currently on? I'm sorry, I didn't know you are a god that doesn't think any grubby mortal living by hard work should get paid for it. Look at it like this, lets say a quarter of the users here use ad blocker, now lets say you work here, now lets say that each ad that is generated PER PAGE does, about 100$, and lets guess a quater of the users is 2,000, thats about 2,000$ PER PAGE of ads you block, and that money could go to the site, and your not being payed your best and may be layed off because the company can't afford to keep you. You realize that you don't even have to click, the ad just has to be generated for it to give money to the website, in this case, the Escapist, I'd like to point out every single person on here is on the Escapists forums which they pay to run. That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

Get off you high fanboy horse. It's my choice not to want tracker cookies. It's my choice not to give them money and do you know what, I don't want to either. Their mods are going to suspend me or something for this post but that just proves my point further. This community has gone down the shitter. Most of the old, fun member have left for greener pastures and I don't blame them.

Besides even without adblocker I get so many ads from the capcha I hardly even post anymore. The Escapist have been nothing but horrid trying to force us to buy a subscription when I only watch 2 or 3 (occasionally) of the shows they support on here. I post maybe once or twice every few days. They have been underhanded and sneaky with their ads and it's their own fault people are adblocking. Where's the choice? Honestly if given the choice between a 5 second advert or just watching, I and most of the people would click the 5 second ad. But we've got no choice. We get 30sec ads in front of videos because we don't throw enough money at them.

So no. I fucking won't. And I don't care either.

 

[RevRaptor]

Well I already allow ad's but I refuse to let scripts run that I feel violate my privacy or clog up my cookie's.

 

[marurder]

It seems someone didn't like my earlier post and I got reported QQ to them.

I would like to know which part of my earlier post was offensive. I wasn't rude to anyone or The Escapist. I provided constructive criticism. I provided justification for my content. Now giving warnings for low-content/douche-baggy posts - fine good (even)! But I would like to know WHERE in my post that was particularly offensive...

That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

Of course, I wholeheartedly agree, but at this time of posting (in other threads) other content providers are providing similar 'non paid' stories. I would like to wait a bit more for more information before commenting further on THAT. If TE is strapped for cash, then they should change their business model as currently the current one isn't working. Other sites have to deal with this issue too. Allowing only 'premium users only content' would backfire because of the nature of the community here, but as time goes on any ad company will have to be more inventive to show their products as there will always be an element trying to stop it. Not saying ad-blockers are good or even needed, but the is the way of internet evolution. Remember popups?

 

[Aprilgold]

Even though I agree with what you say (suffering through ads you can just ignore is you paying for free entertainment) a lack of money is in no way justification for the Escapist trying to take charity money, not only that charity money guaranteed to save someone's career.

If they were suffering so much they should have stopped buying up so much 'talent' like Jim Sterling, Lisa Folies, ENN, giving Moviebob 2 shows (one is way too many) and you know maybe write more articles and content inhouse (although that led to Game Dogs so maybe that last one is a bad idea).

Also I know he's their biggest draw but maybe they should've dropped Yahtzee, I have no doubt that they pay him the most and I think Yahtzee would be the first to admit that the quality of ZP has dipped. Maybe it is time to give others a chance, maybe putting him on at least a hiatus would have freed up some money for the Escapist.

Long story short even if loyal viewers shouldn't use adblock this is the Escapist's fault no one elses.

I don't care on your taste of shows, but they dropped Lisa, Extra Credits and may drop Bob soon, and thats signs of starting to struggle. I'm assuming Jim approached them, because he was getting more hated over on his former site or something. I ask to un install because this isn't a one case basis thing, it applies everywhere. This means Youtube, and other establishments aren't being able to pay their workers, meaning pay cuts and pink slips. Now, I don't know if your aware, but in America, were having a job loss thing going on. If we were to get people to simply remove Ad Blocker, then we could probably have not as high of a percentage. Theres many other ways this is not a good program, but there ARE my reasons why I asked.

Literally none of the ads interest me so what's the point of removing my ad blocker?

Well, keeping shows, the forums, website AND overall well being of people like Yahtzee, Jim, Move Bob, and the Extra Credits team a float if you DID view those ads, along with all the employee's of the Escapist, why wouldn't you?

I was under the impression The Escapist only get ad revenue if I actually click on the ads...

They do, but they also get revenue when they are shown.

But if Ad Blocker merely hides them then does it not count as being shown if I still visit the site?

I think since its not ACTUALLY being shown, some script somewhere is not running, so its not giving the place money.

 

[JezebelinHell]

I'd rather just let the ads on the Escapist slip through my filters. The escapist isn't the only site I visit after all.
Can such a thing be done with AdBlock Plus? Does anyone know how? I'd really like to know.

Right click the ABP stop sign in your toolbar while you are on the Escapist and you will have an option for disabling it for the site. Not that this idea is going to have any bearing from my understanding.

Edit:
I may be corrected on this but from my understanding:

ABP does not block the ads that are embedded in the videos. So asking people to disable/uninstall it for video ads is naive. I am sure someone can confirm/deny this.

An ad does not generate additional revenue until it is clicked. Referrals are what make the money not just selling the ad space. The Escapist has the ad space money, if any, already when the ad is on the site. The ad is being fed from their end and they cannot say that I received the ad or not. Since I personally NEVER click on an ad and find the crap they leave behind less than appealing there is no point to me allowing them on my system in the first place. They can make their ad space more appealing to buyers by discouraging ABP but that doesn't not guarantee them hits. I know a lot of people wouldn't help them their regardless of addons because of the next point.

I do know that ads can be used to place, at the most "harmless", tracking information and all the way up to a virus on a system. It doesn't have to be the intent of the ad, they are generally not the most securely written bits of code made. Again, even when I see ads that interest me, which are few and far between, I refuse to click them because it just isn't worth the risk or hassle of it turning into something dubious.

I also believe it is a case of bad business practices landing them in this. I agree they shouldn't be adding shows if they cannot pay the people they know are bringing viewers to the site. I don't care what they "think" they had worked out with EC, nothing new should have been added. Can you imagine what EC thought watching a new show come on and thinking how nice they were being to the company to let them slack off on paying them??? That is like loaning one of your friends money for bills and watching them sit at a bar drinking. If you're too nice to speak up and ask "WTF?" you just sit there getting pissed off and bitter. And I think them asking for money to send Yahtzee to PAX was completely tacky. All of this being flashed in the face of people that were being nice and not being paid.

I believe people in the US are being pretty much abused with ads and with the International make up of this site it is completely fucked up for them to do that. Lots of people on here do not realize why I am sure the blockers are more prevalent for US users. (There, another generalization that can be made against us, yippee. I can see it now "The US users killed the Escapist with ABP." Just add it to your list of the shit you can whine about.) But thinking they are blocking the video ads or that the people using them would be generating any revenue by NOT clicking on them is naive and clicking on them is a security risk I am not taking randomly to support anyone. Honestly, I used to have it disabled for this site to support them if anything looked interesting and safe but personally those half page popups were pretty much the end of my patience and goodwill towards this site, then it continued into the Meebo fiasco...

 

[razer17]

Oh, hey, a guilt trip, because everybody needs to feel sorry for a website that pulls in millions.

I very much doubt this website makes as much as you think.

Anyway, I never installed Ad Blocker, because I just didn't bother. However, how would it make a difference? Don't ads get paid on page hits anyway?

That being said, stop guilt tripping.

 

[NeutralMunchHotel]

No. It's my right not to be raped by tracker cookies.

So, your saying its not your right to pay people who run, maintain the site your currently on? I'm sorry, I didn't know you are a god that doesn't think any grubby mortal living by hard work should get paid for it. Look at it like this, lets say a quarter of the users here use ad blocker, now lets say you work here, now lets say that each ad that is generated PER PAGE does, about 100$, and lets guess a quater of the users is 2,000, thats about 2,000$ PER PAGE of ads you block, and that money could go to the site, and your not being payed your best and may be layed off because the company can't afford to keep you. You realize that you don't even have to click, the ad just has to be generated for it to give money to the website, in this case, the Escapist, I'd like to point out every single person on here is on the Escapists forums which they pay to run. That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

Three words: flawed business model.

In short, a company's actions need to suit the customer, not the other way round. If it can't (and The Escapist has proved time and time again that this is probably the case) then the company will go under. Simple.

 

[Jennacide]

*ahem* No.

From my experience with ad revenue companies, some still count views even when the ad was blocked. So screw your guilt tripping, that's why they have Publisher's Club.

 

[Aprilgold]

No. It's my right not to be raped by tracker cookies.

So, your saying its not your right to pay people who run, maintain the site your currently on? I'm sorry, I didn't know you are a god that doesn't think any grubby mortal living by hard work should get paid for it. Look at it like this, lets say a quarter of the users here use ad blocker, now lets say you work here, now lets say that each ad that is generated PER PAGE does, about 100$, and lets guess a quater of the users is 2,000, thats about 2,000$ PER PAGE of ads you block, and that money could go to the site, and your not being payed your best and may be layed off because the company can't afford to keep you. You realize that you don't even have to click, the ad just has to be generated for it to give money to the website, in this case, the Escapist, I'd like to point out every single person on here is on the Escapists forums which they pay to run. That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

Three words: flawed business model.

In short, a company's actions need to suit the customer, not the other way round. If it can't (and The Escapist has proved time and time again that this is probably the case) then the company will go under. Simple.

I don't think its flawed, they wouldn't drop shows that didn't have a large following if they hadn't. If ads are an issue, then its their placement. Think about it, I have an ad playing to the right of me right now for the Creators Project, and am I bothered, no, because its no sound. If having something playing next to where you should be looking is an issue, why are you on the computer? Why are you dancing around the TV, or games for that matter? Just think of your reasoning, their business model is the god damn same as Youtubes, but without sound ads. They have ads so they can get revenue, its flawed to think this business model is flawed when no one has shot up a post or customer serviced it, instead, they go to ad blocker, the thing that cuts revenue for a website.

I want every FireFox user to uninstall...

Every Firefox user?

Suppose I don't have to uninstall it from Chrome then do I? ;D

yay loopholes FTW!

but seriously people get paid whenever someone clicks on the ad to be redirected to the ad site. to 'help' the escapist you would have to click on every advert a couple of hundred times with different ips.

and from what i've read this 'solution' won't help in the long run....

They just have to be loaded, not clicked. Its a mis-conception, sorta... Basically, if my page loads an ad, then Escapist gets revenue because it loaded an ad. With Ad Blocker, it stops the ad's script from apearing, so no revenue, thats why I asked for people to un install it.

 

[Olikunmissile]

No. It's my right not to be raped by tracker cookies.

So, your saying its not your right to pay people who run, maintain the site your currently on? I'm sorry, I didn't know you are a god that doesn't think any grubby mortal living by hard work should get paid for it. Look at it like this, lets say a quarter of the users here use ad blocker, now lets say you work here, now lets say that each ad that is generated PER PAGE does, about 100$, and lets guess a quater of the users is 2,000, thats about 2,000$ PER PAGE of ads you block, and that money could go to the site, and your not being payed your best and may be layed off because the company can't afford to keep you. You realize that you don't even have to click, the ad just has to be generated for it to give money to the website, in this case, the Escapist, I'd like to point out every single person on here is on the Escapists forums which they pay to run. That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

Wow, I just wrote an entire paragraph response to this, but once again the escapist and all of it's code clashes induced by all the shitty ads and meebo crap lost the post. So it just proves my point further about how they're going about ads the wrong way making them so intrusive.

Get off your high fanboy horse. Ads, fine, making them this intrusive? Not.

 

[Generalissimo]

no, i won't stop. it's the price THEY pay, for making them so bloody inconvenient