Please uninstall Ad Blocker.

[idarkphoenixi]

I'll remove Ad-Blocker the moment the ad's stop becoming intrusive.

 

[Olikunmissile]

So, your saying its not your right to pay people who run, maintain the site your currently on? I'm sorry, I didn't know you are a god that doesn't think any grubby mortal living by hard work should get paid for it. Look at it like this, lets say a quarter of the users here use ad blocker, now lets say you work here, now lets say that each ad that is generated PER PAGE does, about 100$, and lets guess a quater of the users is 2,000, thats about 2,000$ PER PAGE of ads you block, and that money could go to the site, and your not being payed your best and may be layed off because the company can't afford to keep you. You realize that you don't even have to click, the ad just has to be generated for it to give money to the website, in this case, the Escapist, I'd like to point out every single person on here is on the Escapists forums which they pay to run. That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

This whole thread is pretty funny, but this post deserves a prize. From here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/content/about]: "The Escapist is part of Themis Group, Inc.'s online media arm Themis Media, and currently generates over 50 million page views each month." I think that's just slightly more than two thousand, even after accounting for each person viewing multiple pages.

You're also off by a few orders of magnitude on how much each ad pays. Some text ads can pay as little as a fraction of a cent per view, depending on what's being advertised by whom on what site, and even the most obnoxious and intrusive ads were usually still measured in cents most of the time last time I checked. Prices are of course better the more irritating they are (and you get bonus points if you actually get people to sign up for things or install stuff on their computer through them), but that kind of escalating crap is why people started using ad blockers in the first place...

FUCKING FINALLY. Someone else with half a brain stem. I tip my hat to you sir.

 

[Aprilgold]

So, your saying its not your right to pay people who run, maintain the site your currently on? I'm sorry, I didn't know you are a god that doesn't think any grubby mortal living by hard work should get paid for it. Look at it like this, lets say a quarter of the users here use ad blocker, now lets say you work here, now lets say that each ad that is generated PER PAGE does, about 100$, and lets guess a quater of the users is 2,000, thats about 2,000$ PER PAGE of ads you block, and that money could go to the site, and your not being payed your best and may be layed off because the company can't afford to keep you. You realize that you don't even have to click, the ad just has to be generated for it to give money to the website, in this case, the Escapist, I'd like to point out every single person on here is on the Escapists forums which they pay to run. That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

This whole thread is pretty funny, but this post deserves a prize. From here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/content/about]: "The Escapist is part of Themis Group, Inc.'s online media arm Themis Media, and currently generates over 50 million page views each month." I think that's just slightly more than two thousand, even after accounting for each person viewing multiple pages.

You're also off by a few orders of magnitude on how much each ad pays. Some text ads can pay as little as a fraction of a cent per view, depending on what's being advertised by whom on what site, and even the most obnoxious and intrusive ads were usually still measured in cents most of the time last time I checked. Prices are of course better the more irritating they are (and you get bonus points if you actually get people to sign up for things or install stuff on their computer through them), but that kind of escalating crap is why people started using ad blockers in the first place...

Used the 2,000 as an example, that was more or less because I didn't know the amount of users, frankly, I'm happy someone told me, now I have some real numbers to you. And same with the ad pay amount, just as an example *didn't I stat that?* Why you had to quote me for that is quite funny in of itself, since its just an example, why I used Imagine so many times. Its easier to make people see large numbers then fractions. Again, point of those were just examples, probably VERY extreme examples, but still, examples.. Don't I also state its half or a quarter or something? Did you really read it? Or did you scan it? Whatever, still, it were just examples, not truths. But the damage of Ad Blocker can STILL be something, even if small, can still affect the website.

*ahem* No.

From my experience with ad revenue companies, some still count views even when the ad was blocked. So screw your guilt tripping, that's why they have Publisher's Club.

Theres my point, as you said, Publishers Club, if ads are such a burden, why not just join the Pub Club? My intention was never to guilt trip, but to get people to stop using it. I really don't care what you say, I just wanted to get some people to realize that it CAN and sometimes DOES hurt a website more then you think about. People who install Ad Block are pulling a huge dick move on websites, yet still use them, even though their not contributing as much as the regular Joe without Ad Block enabled.

now hold on! you're no moral crusader, their ways to make money are flawed, which would you choose? one the costs money, one that doesn't, both have the same effect, one is free and the other isn't. see where i'm going with this? the ads are only getting longer and MORE impertinant, and the loss of EC and lisa foiles is the fault of poor planning and an equally poor revenue plan. the only thing keeping me here now is the threads and ZP, and if the good threads are trolled to extinction, and ZP goes stale, then i will take my final bow. 'till then no moral crusades, you've got people like me to deal with.

Why not quote me when you targeted this toward my last statement? Whats wrong with me saying that your using their forums to chat, but not give them the simple courtesy to have a 10 second ad, mind you, these are about 5 minutes long sometimes, and skip 4:50 minutes and seconds of the ad so you can watch one of their people who they hire to do these things for them. They have to maintain the servers to keep this thing running, 24/7, all the time and make SURE that trouble makers don't get in the way of other users entertainment. I am no crusade, but I'll be damned before someone cuts someone off from their paycheck. Its no different then if someone made you 50 presents, all of your favorite foods, then after eating and opening and loving all of your presents, you wreck their house and cut off their arm, take their money and make sure their house is a light with fire. Is it fair to do this sort of thing? No, of course not, all your doing is killing the website your on right now.

Nope.

Considering that at least 2 malware ridden services have been integrated into this site in the past, I'll never unblock this website.

This doesn't compare to the treatment of the community for The Escapist's flawed business model, guilting people, generally being elitist and the Gestapo this forum has.

In light of the Pax fiasco and the EC fiasco, I'll never unblock this website and encourage others to do the same. If nobody was banned for stupid reasons, the Publisher's Club wasn't shoved in my face every five minutes, The Escapist was not grubbing for cash and the ads wouldn't burn down my computer if I let them through, then I might have considered it, but it isn't how you treat a customer.

Quite simply, nobody tells me how I should browse their website unless they're held in high regard.

I think your a special acception, it seems like your computer isn't exactly high end and your server isn't perfect, so you can enjoy the site without ads, but you better Pub Club it, because at least then, your helping the site your on right now.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

No. It's my right not to be raped by tracker cookies.

So, your saying its not your right to pay people who run, maintain the site your currently on? I'm sorry, I didn't know you are a god that doesn't think any grubby mortal living by hard work should get paid for it. Look at it like this, lets say a quarter of the users here use ad blocker, now lets say you work here, now lets say that each ad that is generated PER PAGE does, about 100$, and lets guess a quater of the users is 2,000, thats about 2,000$ PER PAGE of ads you block, and that money could go to the site, and your not being payed your best and may be layed off because the company can't afford to keep you. You realize that you don't even have to click, the ad just has to be generated for it to give money to the website, in this case, the Escapist, I'd like to point out every single person on here is on the Escapists forums which they pay to run. That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

One thing you are forgetting is that the youth of today are being bombarded by brainwashing ideas. From what I have seen of what they become from believing those ideas, that is the reason that the Escapist suffers, it is why they don't care that, by blocking the revenue of the very site they like to come to, they are killing the site.

These horrible ideas are what spawn the people that believe that pirating games is okay(as long as they are hiding behind the delusion that they are doing good because they aren't giving money to the big bad company, that had the nerve to charge them more for a product that they believe is worth much less).

They don't care if the people that make the stuff on this sight get paid, for the entertainment or ideas that they bring. They have been taught the radical idea that nobody can own an idea. They are the type of people that download E-books from special free sites instead of going out to the store to buy the book. They are the people I fear as a writer that wants to write novels and other things. Yes I want people to read what I write, to give them enjoyment, but enjoyment and praise doesn't put food on the table. It doesn't matter that I was the creator of the stories they may read, they believe that I and people like me shouldn't make our ideas/stories only available to people who can afford it.

But now what they don't understand is that they want to boycott the Escapist. The Escapist is the site that brought Extra Credits to the center stage. If TE hadn't hired EC, I wouldn't have known who the EC group was. TE brought EC a great deal of publicity.

But from what we have heard, TE couldn't pay EC because TE hasn't been making enough money. We know that the Pub Club doesn't make TE an amazing amount of money, especially since its subscription fee is one of the smallest yearly subscriptions around. So, TE makes its money from the ads, and since all these young "entitled" people think that they should view all this content(a massive amount of content) for free and free of "pesky" ads, the site is losing money. It is because they believe in the "Fight the power thing" along with "We got to stop the evil money loving big business", that the Escapist is in the poor condition it is in that it can't pay groups like EC.

So people, think about this, you are the reason that some of your favorite shows disappear. You whine and complain that the Escapist has taken away your favorite things. "Why did this show disappear", you think the big bad Escapist money grubbers kill the things you like. The problem is it is actually you that kill the things you like because you don't allow the ads to appear, and when they don't appear, the Escapist loses funds to keep the site going.

So all you people that are calling for blood and blaming the Escapist for all these problems, the people that don't think they should have to pay for their entertainment, that all the good people that keep this site running should have to keep dancing around for your amusement without receiving anything from you, you people need to open your eyes and see how wrong you are.

All this stuff you enjoy on this site isn't free, it is created from the hard work, the blood, sweat and tears, of the good people that work for this site.

The way you are acting isn't right. It is like you have come over to your grandma's house and she has bought you gifts and baked you cakes and cookies, but then after you've opened your gifts and ate all that grandma has baked for you and everything in her fridge, you then proceed to shout at her that it is her fault that your dog died from being run over by a stranger, and then you finally break her television by throwing her coffee table through it, giving her the middle finger, and then leave.

So do as the OP says, disable your Ad Blockers, and support the site. It makes no sense to come here and enjoy everything they have to offer, and on occasion express your love for them, but when they in distress you turn your back on them.

 

[Generalissimo]

now hold on! you're no moral crusader, their ways to make money are flawed, which would you choose? one the costs money, one that doesn't, both have the same effect, one is free and the other isn't. see where i'm going with this? the ads are only getting longer and MORE impertinant, and the loss of EC and lisa foiles is the fault of poor planning and an equally poor revenue plan. the only thing keeping me here now is the threads and ZP, and if the good threads are trolled to extinction, and ZP goes stale, then i will take my final bow. 'till then no moral crusades, you've got people like me to deal with.

 

[Mr Montmorency]

Nope.

Considering that at least 2 malware ridden services have been integrated into this site in the past, I'll never unblock this website.

This doesn't compare to the treatment of the community for The Escapist's flawed business model, guilting people, generally being elitist and the Gestapo this forum has.

In light of the Pax fiasco and the EC fiasco, I'll never unblock this website and encourage others to do the same. If nobody was banned for stupid reasons, the Publisher's Club wasn't shoved in my face every five minutes, The Escapist was not grubbing for cash and the ads wouldn't burn down my computer if I let them through, then I might have considered it, but it isn't how you treat a customer.

Quite simply, nobody tells me how I should browse their website unless they're held in high regard.

 

[Moeez]

But this site has the worst ads, with full videos taking up the whole page. These ads completely ruin the experience of even watching the shows here.

 

[Alphakirby]

What if you're in the pub club? ¬_¬;

Then you should come up with something witty for your title other than Premium Member.

OT: No,sorry but there are some good things about having an ad blocker,like never being relinked to some malware site,also not dealing with pop ups is nice too.
I only have one site where my blocker is turned off and it's because the site doesn't work unless it's turned off. Sorry but I don't think staring at ads is going to help anyone. (I don't click on advertisements at all anyway)
You may as well rename this thread: Please click on every advertisement you see on this site because nobody gets paid unless the ads are clicked.

 

[Creator002]

What if you're in the pub club? ¬_¬;

I have an ad-blocker and, obviously, a membership to the pub club. I was told by a moderator that, as long as the Escapist is making money from you in the end, it's fine.

 

[ImprovizoR]

I hate ads. I don't watch them on TV, I don't watch them on the internet. As soon as I see an ad on YouTube, I find another video of same content without an ad. They are a nuisance and I couldn't care less if all of Escapist income comes from ads. They are annoying and I won't torture myself with ads so some internet site could get a few extra bucks. Their finances are not my problem.

 

[Mr Companion]

Many of us don't use ad blocker andI know I don't, Extra Credits isn't leaving because the escapist doesn't have enough money, they are leaving because The Escapist isn't willing to pay. James was lenient on payment, he suffered for it and he isn't alone.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Looking at ads earns them nothing, clicking them is what counts.

As for the pub club, they really need hand to out some freebies (make competitions to win weekend passes) so the people really see what they get for their cash.

 

[GraveeKing]

Screw uninstalling it. If I think a site deserves the money, I'll put up with adverts and make my adblocker make an exception for that site. The Escapist is one of the few I actually.... JUST bare with. Only because I know it buys Yahtzee his next game.

 

[Scarim Coral]

Isn't the profit made from ads is when you click on the ad banner itself?
Sorry but no I ain't doing that and beside if you really want help them why not buy something from their store or is it the ad is much more of a better profits?

 

[Alphakirby]

Isn't the profit made from ads is when you click on the ad banner itself?
Sorry but no I ain't doing that and beside if you really want help them why not buy something from their store or is it the ad is much more of a better profits?

Because that would involve him giving money to The Escapist instead of whining about it,and obviously whining gets a bigger thread than being smart about a problem.

 

[Aprilgold]

What if you're in the pub club? ¬_¬;

Then you should come up with something witty for your title other than Premium Member.

OT: No,sorry but there are some good things about having an ad blocker,like never being relinked to some malware site,also not dealing with pop ups is nice too.
I only have one site where my blocker is turned off and it's because the site doesn't work unless it's turned off. Sorry but I don't think staring at ads is going to help anyone. (I don't click on advertisements at all anyway)
You may as well rename this thread: Please click on every advertisement you see on this site because nobody gets paid unless the ads are clicked.

Their paid per web hit, basically, they don't have to be clicked, just generated onto your page, for lack of a better word, and why not? I'm asking, why don't you? I can understand having it off on a site to where your not on frequently, but I know your on frequently [saw you on several OTHER threads, I think I replied to you once before] Escapist, as long as I've been on, hasn't re linked me to a malware site, or create pop ups, if you really are OK with people not getting a complete pay check at the end of the day, and your site hurting for cash, then why be here, since I'm not going to go any further, read the man below mes post.

No. It's my right not to be raped by tracker cookies.

So, your saying its not your right to pay people who run, maintain the site your currently on? I'm sorry, I didn't know you are a god that doesn't think any grubby mortal living by hard work should get paid for it. Look at it like this, lets say a quarter of the users here use ad blocker, now lets say you work here, now lets say that each ad that is generated PER PAGE does, about 100$, and lets guess a quater of the users is 2,000, thats about 2,000$ PER PAGE of ads you block, and that money could go to the site, and your not being payed your best and may be layed off because the company can't afford to keep you. You realize that you don't even have to click, the ad just has to be generated for it to give money to the website, in this case, the Escapist, I'd like to point out every single person on here is on the Escapists forums which they pay to run. That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

One thing you are forgetting is that the youth of today are being bombarded by brainwashing ideas. From what I have seen of what they become from believing those ideas, that is the reason that the Escapist suffers, it is why they don't care that, by blocking the revenue of the very site they like to come to, they are killing the site.

These horrible ideas are what spawn the people that believe that pirating games is okay(as long as they are hiding behind the delusion that they are doing good because they aren't giving money to the big bad company, that had the nerve to charge them more for a product that they believe is worth much less).

They don't care if the people that make the stuff on this sight get paid, for the entertainment or ideas that they bring. They have been taught the radical idea that nobody can own an idea. They are the type of people that download E-books from special free sites instead of going out to the store to buy the book. They are the people I fear as a writer that wants to write novels and other things. Yes I want people to read what I write, to give them enjoyment, but enjoyment and praise doesn't put food on the table. It doesn't matter that I was the creator of the stories they may read, they believe that I and people like me shouldn't make our ideas/stories only available to people who can afford it.

But now what they don't understand is that they want to boycott the Escapist. The Escapist is the site that brought Extra Credits to the center stage. If TE hadn't hired EC, I wouldn't have known who the EC group was. TE brought EC a great deal of publicity.

But from what we have heard, TE couldn't pay EC because TE hasn't been making enough money. We know that the Pub Club doesn't make TE an amazing amount of money, especially since its subscription fee is one of the smallest yearly subscriptions around. So, TE makes its money from the ads, and since all these young "entitled" people think that they should view all this content(a massive amount of content) for free and free of "pesky" ads, the site is losing money. It is because they believe in the "Fight the power thing" along with "We got to stop the evil money loving big business", that the Escapist is in the poor condition it is in that it can't pay groups like EC.

So people, think about this, you are the reason that some of your favorite shows disappear. You whine and complain that the Escapist has taken away your favorite things. "Why did this show disappear", you think the big bad Escapist money grubbers kill the things you like. The problem is it is actually you that kill the things you like because you don't allow the ads to appear, and when they don't appear, the Escapist loses funds to keep the site going.

So all you people that are calling for blood and blaming the Escapist for all these problems, the people that don't think they should have to pay for their entertainment, that all the good people that keep this site running should have to keep dancing around for your amusement without receiving anything from you, you people need to open your eyes and see how wrong you are.

All this stuff you enjoy on this site isn't free, it is created from the hard work, the blood, sweat and tears, of the good people that work for this site.

The way you are acting isn't right. It is like you have come over to your grandma's house and she has bought you gifts and baked you cakes and cookies, but then after you've opened your gifts and ate all that grandma has baked for you and everything in her fridge, you then proceed to shout at her that it is her fault that your dog died from being run over by a stranger, and then you finally break her television by throwing her coffee table through it, giving her the middle finger, and then leave.

So do as the OP says, disable your Ad Blockers, and support the site. It makes no sense to come here and enjoy everything they have to offer, and on occasion express your love for them, but when they in distress you turn your back on them.

I'm going to ask, what book did you write, I'm interested in it?

 

[Aprilgold]

If you don't care, why are you here then?

Zero Punctuation. That's it. Only part of Escapist I care at all about.

The forums could shut down because of loss of revenue,

Can't say I'd miss all these silly little rules.

also, you might be in breach of one of the rules you signed up on, for using and admitting your using ad blocker.

Never said I did, never said I didn't. No grounds for mod wrath.

Its blocking their revenue, your taking up server space, you can be booted for being arrogant and not supporting the site which you are using a special bit for. Ads don't have to be clicked, just loaded, you could, potentially, be hurting any performer on here, formely extra credits, you could be hurting Yahtzee, Jim, Movie Bob, any of the comic guys, the news team, it doesn't matter, your hurting the whole website. I asked you to disable ad blocker for this site because, honestly, a 10 second ad at the begging of the video means more money to those who run and work for the site.

Oh, hey, more guilt tripping. I'm not saying either way whether I use one or not. I might, I might not. I'm not saying anything concrete in either way because of one of the silly rules here. I might have ABP installed and Escapist greenlit. I might not have it installed at all. I'll never tell!


At least not on Escapist, if you hit me up on steam I'll let everything out. They can't warn me for what I say over Steam.

You don't, ok then, have a good day sir, sorry for any trouble I caused you, I'm kinda tired, so I might have read you wrong. Again, sorry for any inconvience.

 

[DirgeNovak]

I only use Adblock to block specific ads and pictures that get on my nerves. I don't use any filters that block stuff without me seeing it first.
Besides, I already pay for not having ads on this specific site, so it doesn't hurt The Escapist anyway. Not that hurting The Escapist would bother me at all if James Portnow's claims are true.

 

[thublihnk]

I have, for years, stopped my ad blocking software on The Escapist so I could support good shows. Now that I'm starting to see a vague undercurrent of them ripping off Escapist contributors, I'm *cough cough* not doing anything different*cough cough* until things are a little clearer.

 

[RivFader86]

un-install it? NEVAH....but i do have it disabled for website such as the escapist (i.e all free websites i like) not sure if that really makes a big difference, but what are a few adds you have to watch/click to close here and there? They are doing a great job and deserve to get something out of it (which i doubt is much...they might have loads of visits but it's not like it#s one dude in a basement whose only costs are power/server/coke and nachos).