Please uninstall Ad Blocker.

[Bobbity]

The Escapist isn't bastardy enough to use pop-ups, thankfully, they just stick ads in our videos and post them around the site. Ad blockers are totally irrelevant to this site anyway.

 

[TimeLord]

Come guys, we can do it. Everyone link arms and chant "We care".

I think we should all gather at the centre of the internet and chant; "Give peace a chance".

Incidentally, that was also a suggested solution for dealing with the London riots. Well it was more standing between the rioters and police and shouting, "Can't we all just get along!?". Which might work in this situation also...

 

[Nyquisted]

I'm not going to remove my ad-blocker, but you've guilt-tripped me into disabling it.

I think it would help me if you had a greater variety of adverts on your content though Escapist.
And I think it's especially ironic that most of your ads are for movies or games that your own pundits have made fun of (case and point, the Battle for Los Angeles ads, when your own MovieBob review slates it).

However I would hate to think that the Extra Credits was forced to leave because of over zealous use of ad-blockers by readers of this site.

 

[Nexoram]

Uh, I have AdBlocker but I disable on sites that I want to support (such as this one ^^) and I'm disappointed in the Escapist for Extra Creditz.

 

[Loves2spooge]

Websites get money for agreeing to place ads, and get a kickback for whenever the ads are clicked. It doesn't matter whether you have an ad blocker in place or not.

It's an individual's right to choose what they consume and what they're exposed to; if you feel so passionate about keeping one of your websites funded, why don't you offer them a donation?

 

[Aprilgold]

No. It's my right not to be raped by tracker cookies.

So, your saying its not your right to pay people who run, maintain the site your currently on? I'm sorry, I didn't know you are a god that doesn't think any grubby mortal living by hard work should get paid for it. Look at it like this, lets say a quarter of the users here use ad blocker, now lets say you work here, now lets say that each ad that is generated PER PAGE does, about 100$, and lets guess a quater of the users is 2,000, thats about 2,000$ PER PAGE of ads you block, and that money could go to the site, and your not being payed your best and may be layed off because the company can't afford to keep you. You realize that you don't even have to click, the ad just has to be generated for it to give money to the website, in this case, the Escapist, I'd like to point out every single person on here is on the Escapists forums which they pay to run. That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

Wow, I just wrote an entire paragraph response to this, but once again the escapist and all of it's code clashes induced by all the shitty ads and meebo crap lost the post. So it just proves my point further about how they're going about ads the wrong way making them so intrusive.

Get off your high fanboy horse. Ads, fine, making them this intrusive? Not.

I'm going to ask, how? For all I know, you could have a bad connection, or could just be lagging with the central server a bit. And yes, how is this a fan boy statement when it applies everywhere I just made it apply to the Escapist for this scenario since I'm on its forums. It would be a fan boyish thing to say that it isn't a problem, but I have said no such thing, and just ask that people give money to the company that is running the website they are on currently. I wouldn't go around town taking news papers and not paying the people who make them, would I? Would you?

Now, again, how are they intrusive? Isn't intrusive similar to invasion, how are they invading you? How are they intruding on you? Your surfing the website that they have to pay to keep running, and they have to pay to keep up to spec, why not just disable it, if you have an issue with ads, theres customer service for that reason. Or you could take your business elsewhere, because having ad blocker installed and active is doing the same thing as just leaving the site.

I'm not going to remove my ad-blocker, but you've guilt-tripped me into disabling it.

I think it would help me if you had a greater variety of adverts on your content though Escapist.
And I think it's especially ironic that most of your ads are for movies or games that your own pundits have made fun of (case and point, the Battle for Los Angeles ads, when your own MovieBob review slates it).

However I would hate to think that the Extra Credits was forced to leave because of over zealous use of ad-blockers by readers of this site.

I can't thank you enough for disabling it for this site, I seriously can not. It proves you have a conciseness, and that proves you are a good person. I respect you and can not say thank you in any way, shape or form that would make it any more of my happiness that you did such an act. Thank you. On your Extra Credits statement, it could have been for money troubles, damned if I know, but money troubles can come from Ad Blocker being used by Non Pub members. I started this right after reading they were leaving, mainly because I just want people to be aware that it DOES hurt the website having it in use here.

 

[Deathninja19]

I don't care on your taste of shows, but they dropped Lisa, Extra Credits and may drop Bob soon, and thats signs of starting to struggle. I'm assuming Jim approached them, because he was getting more hated over on his former site or something. I ask to un install because this isn't a one case basis thing, it applies everywhere. This means Youtube, and other establishments aren't being able to pay their workers, meaning pay cuts and pink slips. Now, I don't know if your aware, but in America, were having a job loss thing going on. If we were to get people to simply remove Ad Blocker, then we could probably have not as high of a percentage. Theres many other ways this is not a good program, but there ARE my reasons why I asked.

Sorry I think you misunderstood my point, I don't care about the quality of shows nor did my point have anything to do with my taste. What I was saying is that the Escapist expanded far too fast especially if they couldn't afford to pay people like Robert Moran of Unforgotten Realms whose show ended over a year ago.

I'll make this clear the Escapist money troubles and the Adblocker debate should not be put together, that was a case of a business being poorly run.

I'll also make it clear that I 100% agree with your points about Adblocker, watching ads is a way to give back to the creators. It's immature to complain about ads because it's basically the same model as TV, we watch ads, the ad companies pay whoever owns the show and they pay the contributers. The only example of using Adblocker I agree with is to prevent tracking cookies, they are an invasion of privacy and should not exist.

 

[FPSMadPaul]

What if you're in the pub club? ¬_¬;

Your already paying to remove ads, thus supporting the Escapist by paying X time for special things. To answer you when you replied, its simple, Youtube does the same thing.

Youtube- Puts ad at begging of video, ad pay youtube for the space, youtube make money to pay to people who are very liked by the community bringing people into it and being paid to upload.

Escapist - Puts ad before and at the end of video, ad company pays Escapist for using their ad, then they make money to pay for people who contribute videos or comics, news or whatever for them.

Since we're in the pub club, and we're PubClubSubs, we've got nothing to block, do we?

I too was thinking this, no point disabling it if there's nothing there for us to see.

 

[stewox]

The more intrusive are the ads the more i don't care about the site

I mostly blocks annoying ads with stupid faces and weirdo things such as those stupid FUCKING BUSTEDTEES ADS - they couldn't have came up with more faggy word than this.

And unrelated stuff such as some stupid things that i don't care about.

But mostly - ads are totally fine if they just sit there and do nothing.


Moving/Scroll following ads are instantly blocked - i hate that shit.
The more flashy and distracting the ad is the more chance it'll get blocked.

Eg, The more the AD tries to be noticable - the more chance it will get ignored. And even if it's something i do care about - still blocked - just out of spite!

 

[BoogieManFL]

Ads are usually designed to be invasive, obstructing, and overly harsh in appearance. If they were designed to be less annoying I wouldn't mind them.

The ads that are forced upon you like the ones before videos are the worst. Even more when sound controls are disabled for them. If a website has even one of those I'll just block them all and that's perfectly reasonable. Don't force them on me. If they just sit quietly on the edge I'd allow them but that's rarely the case.

I've disabled my adblocker for this site as of now, we'll see how it goes. If one gets forced on me though, no promises.

 

[Aprilgold]

no, i won't stop. it's the price THEY pay, for making them so bloody inconvenient

So they serve you, someone who came to their website, using their forums? You realize their inconvenient so you will join the Pub Club, that way they still make the cash they would normally get from you, and you have no right to complain, because the alternative is there. Again, their a company, if you want the ads gone, but want to do the right thing and support them, join the pub club, other then that, shut up. You have no reason to not support the website your currently using to read my reply, to be on their forums, which they maintain, run and hire people to keep up to standard.

Ads are usually designed to be invasive, obstructing, and overly harsh in appearance. If they were designed to be less annoying I wouldn't mind them.

The ads that are forced upon you like the ones before videos are the worst. Even more when sound controls are disabled for them. If a website has even one of those I'll block their adds forever because that's just BS. Don't force them on me.

Their all flashy so you WILL get annoyed and join the Pub Club, that way your still supporting the site, other than that, using Ad Block isn't exactly the nicest thing to do to a website your currently using.

 

[Zeren]

When the ads stop being intrusive and the mods stop banning people for mentioning adblockers I will whitelist the Escapist, but not until then.

 

[Olikunmissile]

Yawn, snip.

Oh I'm sorry, you're one of those, pubclub elitist sorts who can't understand things beyond the end of their nose. Just because it isn't happening to you means it surely doesn't exist and everyone else is a silly bugger for not being the glorious you in your pubclub.

Captcha ads. Meebo bar. 30sec+ adverts on videos, tracking cookies, facebook linkup (Admittedly that's not too bad, but it seemed like it could do with being thrown in.) And all the other little ads here and there.

But like I said, because you can't see them, they obviously don't exist! How silly of me to be living in such a fabrication.

 

[Nalgas D. Lemur]

So, your saying its not your right to pay people who run, maintain the site your currently on? I'm sorry, I didn't know you are a god that doesn't think any grubby mortal living by hard work should get paid for it. Look at it like this, lets say a quarter of the users here use ad blocker, now lets say you work here, now lets say that each ad that is generated PER PAGE does, about 100$, and lets guess a quater of the users is 2,000, thats about 2,000$ PER PAGE of ads you block, and that money could go to the site, and your not being payed your best and may be layed off because the company can't afford to keep you. You realize that you don't even have to click, the ad just has to be generated for it to give money to the website, in this case, the Escapist, I'd like to point out every single person on here is on the Escapists forums which they pay to run. That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

This whole thread is pretty funny, but this post deserves a prize. From here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/content/about]: "The Escapist is part of Themis Group, Inc.'s online media arm Themis Media, and currently generates over 50 million page views each month." I think that's just slightly more than two thousand, even after accounting for each person viewing multiple pages.

You're also off by a few orders of magnitude on how much each ad pays. Some text ads can pay as little as a fraction of a cent per view, depending on what's being advertised by whom on what site, and even the most obnoxious and intrusive ads were usually still measured in cents most of the time last time I checked. Prices are of course better the more irritating they are (and you get bonus points if you actually get people to sign up for things or install stuff on their computer through them), but that kind of escalating crap is why people started using ad blockers in the first place...

 

[katsumoto03]

They only seem to be able to afford ZP and LRR (and all shows done by them) even with the ad revenue. I think they really do need the money.

That said, do whatever the fuck you want. I keep ads on but never click them.

EDIT: Just read up on the Extra Credits v. Escapist controversy and now I'm in the mindset of, "Fuck the Escapist"

 

[Knight Templar]

Oddly I can't remember the last time I got a non-escapist ad, they are all for LRR and such. Anyway I don't use adbolckers, I only have one in case an ad is glitching up and preventing me from even using the site.

I don't think it's right to both make use of a site and block their source of revenue.

 

[idarkphoenixi]

I'll remove Ad-Blocker the moment the ad's stop becoming intrusive.

 

[Olikunmissile]

So, your saying its not your right to pay people who run, maintain the site your currently on? I'm sorry, I didn't know you are a god that doesn't think any grubby mortal living by hard work should get paid for it. Look at it like this, lets say a quarter of the users here use ad blocker, now lets say you work here, now lets say that each ad that is generated PER PAGE does, about 100$, and lets guess a quater of the users is 2,000, thats about 2,000$ PER PAGE of ads you block, and that money could go to the site, and your not being payed your best and may be layed off because the company can't afford to keep you. You realize that you don't even have to click, the ad just has to be generated for it to give money to the website, in this case, the Escapist, I'd like to point out every single person on here is on the Escapists forums which they pay to run. That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

This whole thread is pretty funny, but this post deserves a prize. From here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/content/about]: "The Escapist is part of Themis Group, Inc.'s online media arm Themis Media, and currently generates over 50 million page views each month." I think that's just slightly more than two thousand, even after accounting for each person viewing multiple pages.

You're also off by a few orders of magnitude on how much each ad pays. Some text ads can pay as little as a fraction of a cent per view, depending on what's being advertised by whom on what site, and even the most obnoxious and intrusive ads were usually still measured in cents most of the time last time I checked. Prices are of course better the more irritating they are (and you get bonus points if you actually get people to sign up for things or install stuff on their computer through them), but that kind of escalating crap is why people started using ad blockers in the first place...

FUCKING FINALLY. Someone else with half a brain stem. I tip my hat to you sir.

 

[Aprilgold]

So, your saying its not your right to pay people who run, maintain the site your currently on? I'm sorry, I didn't know you are a god that doesn't think any grubby mortal living by hard work should get paid for it. Look at it like this, lets say a quarter of the users here use ad blocker, now lets say you work here, now lets say that each ad that is generated PER PAGE does, about 100$, and lets guess a quater of the users is 2,000, thats about 2,000$ PER PAGE of ads you block, and that money could go to the site, and your not being payed your best and may be layed off because the company can't afford to keep you. You realize that you don't even have to click, the ad just has to be generated for it to give money to the website, in this case, the Escapist, I'd like to point out every single person on here is on the Escapists forums which they pay to run. That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

This whole thread is pretty funny, but this post deserves a prize. From here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/content/about]: "The Escapist is part of Themis Group, Inc.'s online media arm Themis Media, and currently generates over 50 million page views each month." I think that's just slightly more than two thousand, even after accounting for each person viewing multiple pages.

You're also off by a few orders of magnitude on how much each ad pays. Some text ads can pay as little as a fraction of a cent per view, depending on what's being advertised by whom on what site, and even the most obnoxious and intrusive ads were usually still measured in cents most of the time last time I checked. Prices are of course better the more irritating they are (and you get bonus points if you actually get people to sign up for things or install stuff on their computer through them), but that kind of escalating crap is why people started using ad blockers in the first place...

Used the 2,000 as an example, that was more or less because I didn't know the amount of users, frankly, I'm happy someone told me, now I have some real numbers to you. And same with the ad pay amount, just as an example *didn't I stat that?* Why you had to quote me for that is quite funny in of itself, since its just an example, why I used Imagine so many times. Its easier to make people see large numbers then fractions. Again, point of those were just examples, probably VERY extreme examples, but still, examples.. Don't I also state its half or a quarter or something? Did you really read it? Or did you scan it? Whatever, still, it were just examples, not truths. But the damage of Ad Blocker can STILL be something, even if small, can still affect the website.

*ahem* No.

From my experience with ad revenue companies, some still count views even when the ad was blocked. So screw your guilt tripping, that's why they have Publisher's Club.

Theres my point, as you said, Publishers Club, if ads are such a burden, why not just join the Pub Club? My intention was never to guilt trip, but to get people to stop using it. I really don't care what you say, I just wanted to get some people to realize that it CAN and sometimes DOES hurt a website more then you think about. People who install Ad Block are pulling a huge dick move on websites, yet still use them, even though their not contributing as much as the regular Joe without Ad Block enabled.

now hold on! you're no moral crusader, their ways to make money are flawed, which would you choose? one the costs money, one that doesn't, both have the same effect, one is free and the other isn't. see where i'm going with this? the ads are only getting longer and MORE impertinant, and the loss of EC and lisa foiles is the fault of poor planning and an equally poor revenue plan. the only thing keeping me here now is the threads and ZP, and if the good threads are trolled to extinction, and ZP goes stale, then i will take my final bow. 'till then no moral crusades, you've got people like me to deal with.

Why not quote me when you targeted this toward my last statement? Whats wrong with me saying that your using their forums to chat, but not give them the simple courtesy to have a 10 second ad, mind you, these are about 5 minutes long sometimes, and skip 4:50 minutes and seconds of the ad so you can watch one of their people who they hire to do these things for them. They have to maintain the servers to keep this thing running, 24/7, all the time and make SURE that trouble makers don't get in the way of other users entertainment. I am no crusade, but I'll be damned before someone cuts someone off from their paycheck. Its no different then if someone made you 50 presents, all of your favorite foods, then after eating and opening and loving all of your presents, you wreck their house and cut off their arm, take their money and make sure their house is a light with fire. Is it fair to do this sort of thing? No, of course not, all your doing is killing the website your on right now.

Nope.

Considering that at least 2 malware ridden services have been integrated into this site in the past, I'll never unblock this website.

This doesn't compare to the treatment of the community for The Escapist's flawed business model, guilting people, generally being elitist and the Gestapo this forum has.

In light of the Pax fiasco and the EC fiasco, I'll never unblock this website and encourage others to do the same. If nobody was banned for stupid reasons, the Publisher's Club wasn't shoved in my face every five minutes, The Escapist was not grubbing for cash and the ads wouldn't burn down my computer if I let them through, then I might have considered it, but it isn't how you treat a customer.

Quite simply, nobody tells me how I should browse their website unless they're held in high regard.

I think your a special acception, it seems like your computer isn't exactly high end and your server isn't perfect, so you can enjoy the site without ads, but you better Pub Club it, because at least then, your helping the site your on right now.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

No. It's my right not to be raped by tracker cookies.

So, your saying its not your right to pay people who run, maintain the site your currently on? I'm sorry, I didn't know you are a god that doesn't think any grubby mortal living by hard work should get paid for it. Look at it like this, lets say a quarter of the users here use ad blocker, now lets say you work here, now lets say that each ad that is generated PER PAGE does, about 100$, and lets guess a quater of the users is 2,000, thats about 2,000$ PER PAGE of ads you block, and that money could go to the site, and your not being payed your best and may be layed off because the company can't afford to keep you. You realize that you don't even have to click, the ad just has to be generated for it to give money to the website, in this case, the Escapist, I'd like to point out every single person on here is on the Escapists forums which they pay to run. That money could dry up, no more forums, I don't think anyone would want that? And video makers for the Escapist would stop being on the site because they couldn't receive the money they should be making because the Escapist can't afford them right now.

One thing you are forgetting is that the youth of today are being bombarded by brainwashing ideas. From what I have seen of what they become from believing those ideas, that is the reason that the Escapist suffers, it is why they don't care that, by blocking the revenue of the very site they like to come to, they are killing the site.

These horrible ideas are what spawn the people that believe that pirating games is okay(as long as they are hiding behind the delusion that they are doing good because they aren't giving money to the big bad company, that had the nerve to charge them more for a product that they believe is worth much less).

They don't care if the people that make the stuff on this sight get paid, for the entertainment or ideas that they bring. They have been taught the radical idea that nobody can own an idea. They are the type of people that download E-books from special free sites instead of going out to the store to buy the book. They are the people I fear as a writer that wants to write novels and other things. Yes I want people to read what I write, to give them enjoyment, but enjoyment and praise doesn't put food on the table. It doesn't matter that I was the creator of the stories they may read, they believe that I and people like me shouldn't make our ideas/stories only available to people who can afford it.

But now what they don't understand is that they want to boycott the Escapist. The Escapist is the site that brought Extra Credits to the center stage. If TE hadn't hired EC, I wouldn't have known who the EC group was. TE brought EC a great deal of publicity.

But from what we have heard, TE couldn't pay EC because TE hasn't been making enough money. We know that the Pub Club doesn't make TE an amazing amount of money, especially since its subscription fee is one of the smallest yearly subscriptions around. So, TE makes its money from the ads, and since all these young "entitled" people think that they should view all this content(a massive amount of content) for free and free of "pesky" ads, the site is losing money. It is because they believe in the "Fight the power thing" along with "We got to stop the evil money loving big business", that the Escapist is in the poor condition it is in that it can't pay groups like EC.

So people, think about this, you are the reason that some of your favorite shows disappear. You whine and complain that the Escapist has taken away your favorite things. "Why did this show disappear", you think the big bad Escapist money grubbers kill the things you like. The problem is it is actually you that kill the things you like because you don't allow the ads to appear, and when they don't appear, the Escapist loses funds to keep the site going.

So all you people that are calling for blood and blaming the Escapist for all these problems, the people that don't think they should have to pay for their entertainment, that all the good people that keep this site running should have to keep dancing around for your amusement without receiving anything from you, you people need to open your eyes and see how wrong you are.

All this stuff you enjoy on this site isn't free, it is created from the hard work, the blood, sweat and tears, of the good people that work for this site.

The way you are acting isn't right. It is like you have come over to your grandma's house and she has bought you gifts and baked you cakes and cookies, but then after you've opened your gifts and ate all that grandma has baked for you and everything in her fridge, you then proceed to shout at her that it is her fault that your dog died from being run over by a stranger, and then you finally break her television by throwing her coffee table through it, giving her the middle finger, and then leave.

So do as the OP says, disable your Ad Blockers, and support the site. It makes no sense to come here and enjoy everything they have to offer, and on occasion express your love for them, but when they in distress you turn your back on them.