How does Drowzee not naturally learn something that's built into it's character?Heart of Darkness said:Also, this is relevant:
How does Drowzee not naturally learn something that's built into it's character?Heart of Darkness said:Also, this is relevant:
No idea. The best answer I can come up with are that the people at Game Freak are trolls. Which might explain why Shedinja gives 2 HP EVs when fought and why Shedinja can learn Final Gambit.gigastrike said:How does Drowzee not naturally learn something that's built into it's character?Heart of Darkness said:Also, this is relevant:
I was always sad Roserade never had Chlorophyll as an ability.Heart of Darkness said:A lot of Fire Pokemon can learn both Sunny Day and Solar Beam, anyway. Yeah, one that can start firing off Solar Beams as fast as possible is nice, but Ninetail's Special Attack is just average. Great for taking out Rock and Ground Pokemon that might give Ninetails trouble, but not as useful against bulky Water-types, especially if they know Rain Dance (or are either Drizzle Politoed or Cloud Nine Golduck).thedeathscythe said:But Draught Ninetails with Solar Beam? That's just....insane, I mean, I'm jelly right now.Heart of Darkness said:Drought Ninetails is nothing. Drizzle Politoed is where it's at. Just ask my Kabutops, Ludicolo, and Kingdra! =D
But seriously, I think I'll try this out this weekend. I want some more Pokemon. Can't really remember which ones I want, though. I think the only ones I really wanted were Eevee and Growlithe, but I already got those through trade...
Not to mention how broken rain is in the games, anyway. Under sun, Pokemon can only either get double speed or boosted STAB fire attacks, but rain can double the speed of Swift Swim Pokemon while giving them boosted STAB water-attacks, too. Not to mention perfectly accurate Thunders and Hurricanes, too. =/
With Roserade's Speed and Special Attack, I'm inclined to agree. It would make Roserade so much more awesome than he already is.John Funk said:I was always sad Roserade never had Chlorophyll as an ability.Heart of Darkness said:A lot of Fire Pokemon can learn both Sunny Day and Solar Beam, anyway. Yeah, one that can start firing off Solar Beams as fast as possible is nice, but Ninetail's Special Attack is just average. Great for taking out Rock and Ground Pokemon that might give Ninetails trouble, but not as useful against bulky Water-types, especially if they know Rain Dance (or are either Drizzle Politoed or Cloud Nine Golduck).thedeathscythe said:But Draught Ninetails with Solar Beam? That's just....insane, I mean, I'm jelly right now.Heart of Darkness said:Drought Ninetails is nothing. Drizzle Politoed is where it's at. Just ask my Kabutops, Ludicolo, and Kingdra! =D
But seriously, I think I'll try this out this weekend. I want some more Pokemon. Can't really remember which ones I want, though. I think the only ones I really wanted were Eevee and Growlithe, but I already got those through trade...
Not to mention how broken rain is in the games, anyway. Under sun, Pokemon can only either get double speed or boosted STAB fire attacks, but rain can double the speed of Swift Swim Pokemon while giving them boosted STAB water-attacks, too. Not to mention perfectly accurate Thunders and Hurricanes, too. =/
Sunny Day + Solarbeam + Weatherball + Sludge Bomb would have been a sick combo.
"Sunny" is a special weather condition. Among other things, it makes Fire-type moves stronger (and Ninetails is a Fire-type and gets some pretty good Fire-type moves) and lets you skip the one-turn chargeup for Solarbeam (a very powerful Grass-type move that Ninetails can learn).Zechnophobe said:So... I've never really played Pokemon, and I can't honestly tell if the 'drought' ability is a joke. It just makes it sunny right? That's an amusing spoof ability, not something that is worth anything?
Sweet lord when did pokemon get so complicated? I only played the first two generations and have no idea what you're talking about.Heart of Darkness said:A lot of Fire Pokemon can learn both Sunny Day and Solar Beam, anyway. Yeah, one that can start firing off Solar Beams as fast as possible is nice, but Ninetail's Special Attack is just average. Great for taking out Rock and Ground Pokemon that might give Ninetails trouble, but not as useful against bulky Water-types, especially if they know Rain Dance (or are either Drizzle Politoed or Cloud Nine Golduck).thedeathscythe said:But Draught Ninetails with Solar Beam? That's just....insane, I mean, I'm jelly right now.Heart of Darkness said:Drought Ninetails is nothing. Drizzle Politoed is where it's at. Just ask my Kabutops, Ludicolo, and Kingdra! =D
But seriously, I think I'll try this out this weekend. I want some more Pokemon. Can't really remember which ones I want, though. I think the only ones I really wanted were Eevee and Growlithe, but I already got those through trade...
Not to mention how broken rain is in the games, anyway. Under sun, Pokemon can only either get double speed or boosted STAB fire attacks, but rain can double the speed of Swift Swim Pokemon while giving them boosted STAB water-attacks, too. Not to mention perfectly accurate Thunders and Hurricanes, too. =/
It shouldn't take too long. The games haven't changed that much since Generation II, but the biggest changes to the games since then--abilities and the physical/special move split--might take a little getting used to, but it's not that hard to wrap your head aroundBon_Clay said:Sweet lord when did pokemon get so complicated? I only played the first two generations and have no idea what you're talking about.Heart of Darkness said:A lot of Fire Pokemon can learn both Sunny Day and Solar Beam, anyway. Yeah, one that can start firing off Solar Beams as fast as possible is nice, but Ninetail's Special Attack is just average. Great for taking out Rock and Ground Pokemon that might give Ninetails trouble, but not as useful against bulky Water-types, especially if they know Rain Dance (or are either Drizzle Politoed or Cloud Nine Golduck).thedeathscythe said:But Draught Ninetails with Solar Beam? That's just....insane, I mean, I'm jelly right now.Heart of Darkness said:Drought Ninetails is nothing. Drizzle Politoed is where it's at. Just ask my Kabutops, Ludicolo, and Kingdra! =D
But seriously, I think I'll try this out this weekend. I want some more Pokemon. Can't really remember which ones I want, though. I think the only ones I really wanted were Eevee and Growlithe, but I already got those through trade...
Not to mention how broken rain is in the games, anyway. Under sun, Pokemon can only either get double speed or boosted STAB fire attacks, but rain can double the speed of Swift Swim Pokemon while giving them boosted STAB water-attacks, too. Not to mention perfectly accurate Thunders and Hurricanes, too. =/
I've been really thinking about buying either black or white though, how hard do you think it would be to get up to speed so I don't completely suck at real battles?
Well the selling point of Pokémon is it's accessibility and you don't need to think about these sorts of things unless you play competitive matches. It isn't particularly hard to learn either, http://www.serebii.net/ has a 'pokemon of the week' column which explains how to use each 'mon in a real battle and what they are good at. The terms can seem a bit intimidating but you pick it up fast.Bon_Clay said:Sweet lord when did pokemon get so complicated? I only played the first two generations and have no idea what you're talking about.Heart of Darkness said:A lot of Fire Pokemon can learn both Sunny Day and Solar Beam, anyway. Yeah, one that can start firing off Solar Beams as fast as possible is nice, but Ninetail's Special Attack is just average. Great for taking out Rock and Ground Pokemon that might give Ninetails trouble, but not as useful against bulky Water-types, especially if they know Rain Dance (or are either Drizzle Politoed or Cloud Nine Golduck).thedeathscythe said:But Draught Ninetails with Solar Beam? That's just....insane, I mean, I'm jelly right now.Heart of Darkness said:Drought Ninetails is nothing. Drizzle Politoed is where it's at. Just ask my Kabutops, Ludicolo, and Kingdra! =D
But seriously, I think I'll try this out this weekend. I want some more Pokemon. Can't really remember which ones I want, though. I think the only ones I really wanted were Eevee and Growlithe, but I already got those through trade...
Not to mention how broken rain is in the games, anyway. Under sun, Pokemon can only either get double speed or boosted STAB fire attacks, but rain can double the speed of Swift Swim Pokemon while giving them boosted STAB water-attacks, too. Not to mention perfectly accurate Thunders and Hurricanes, too. =/
I've been really thinking about buying either black or white though, how hard do you think it would be to get up to speed so I don't completely suck at real battles?
'Sunny' weather is useful. It ups the power of fire moves and allows solarbeam (A VERY powerful grass-type attack) to be used in one turn instead of two. Doubly useful for a fire type as having a grass attack is a great counter to the water/rock/ground types that would normally be a problem.brodie21 said:i dont know anything about pokemon, but how is 'drought' overpowered? i read the thing and apparently it just makes the game sunny. WTF?
Weather effects have certain effects on Pokemon and their movesets. Sun increases the power of fire-type moves, decreases the power of water-type moves, makes a move called SolarBeam (one of the strongest grass-type moves in the game) work in one turn instead of two, and drops the accuracy of a move called Thunder down to 50%. Since Ninetails is a Fire-type Pokemon, it gets a boost to the power of its Fire-type attacks (which it already receives a boost through Same Type Attack Bonuses), it nerfs one of its counters (Water-types) down to only about half-power, and it gains a much more reliable counter to its other weaknesses (SolarBeam covers Ninetail's Rock- and Ground- type weaknesses in addition to its Water-type weakness). Sun also allows Pokemon with the Chlorophyll ability to move twice as fast, but that's not something that concerns Ninetails.brodie21 said:i dont know anything about pokemon, but how is 'drought' overpowered? i read the thing and apparently it just makes the game sunny. WTF?
That isn't just in the dream world, and I think it learns another grass type move, too.John Funk said:It learns Solarbeam, too. Just to make things worse. Sheesh.
Sun doubles the power of fire type moves, halves the power of water type moves, makes Weather Ball fire type, doubles the speed of Clorophyll Pokemon (some dangerous but slow Grass Types included), makes Solarbeam (a 2 turn huge power grass move) take 1 turn to shoot, and boosts the power of Solar Power pokemon (some dangerous fire types like Dream Charizard) by 30%.Zechnophobe said:So... I've never really played Pokemon, and I can't honestly tell if the 'drought' ability is a joke. It just makes it sunny right? That's an amusing spoof ability, not something that is worth anything?
Energy BallAssassin Xaero said:That isn't just in the dream world, and I think it learns another grass type move, too.John Funk said:It learns Solarbeam, too. Just to make things worse. Sheesh.
Darkrai would. He is a pokemon revolving around nightmares.manythings said:Surely Drowzee (or anyone with Dream Eater) would just rule the dream world with an Iron fist.