Poll: did i pretty much make this kid snap?

[Sonic Doctor]

No you're not at fault, and anyone who thinks stabbing someone for putting a POPTART of all things on someones head is justifiable is a fucking moron.

You have obviously never been bullied. The OP is at fault. The world needs to stop defending bullies. What the kid did was unjustifiable, but it was understandable.

Some kids don't know how to deal with bullies. It is most likely the adults in this kids life weren't doing anything to stop the bullies. The kid didn't have the mental capability to deal with the situation, not everybody does.

Just because someone has problems dealing with things mentally, doesn't mean that if he or she stabs the bully for bulling him or her, that the bully is now exempt from fault.

Bullies need to understand that what they do have consequences. Most of the time the consequences are that people start to ignore them and think they are dickheads. But there is a part of the population that will retaliate with violence, because their anger builds up without a release, because nobody helps or defends them, so they take matters into their own hands. Yes it is wrong to do, but it is the bully's fault, because in the end it was the bully that drove the person to retaliate.

 

[Paksenarrion]

Successful Troll is Successful.

To clarify, the title of the thread, the grammatical errors, and the wall of text lead me to believe that this is a troll thread. If the title was, "Am I at fault?" or, "Did I cause him to stab other people?", the thread would sound more genuine.

 

[tthor]

i think you did play a role in it. bullying can drive people to the breaking point. i know you probably didn't realize you were bullying, you were just having fun with your friend. but this type of bullying builds up, and eventually drives a person mad.

and are you a terrible person? no, I don't think so. you made mistakes, like everyone else. you are more a fool than a terrible person. i think many of us have been there before, bullying without even realizing it, just thinking of it as all fun and games, not realizing we are hurting someone deeply. but this should be a lesson for us all, to always take into account that, despite your intentions, your words can still cause great pain.

I am sorry you had to deal with this... remember what happened, but don't despair on it. this kid must have had many demons of his own

 

[Delritho]

No you're not at fault, and anyone who thinks stabbing someone for putting a POPTART of all things on someones head is justifiable is a fucking moron.

words

Excuse me? I WAS bullied, but I never stabbed anybody, if you honestly think getting bullied is a justified reason to attempt to MURDER someone you are either insane or stupid.

Murder, attempted or otherwise, is never s justifiable response to anything. I don't care what the situation is. Arrest the guy doing to stabbing, he obviously isn't fit for society.

 

[Flying-Emu]

You bullied him. You are at fault. You are an asshole, and I hope that you carry this for the rest of your life and realize that the old adage "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me" is a crock of shit.

I want to say so many horrible things to you, but I can't, because I value my place here in the Escapist community. Trust me though, if I said the things I wish to... you would not be a very happy camper.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

No you're not at fault, and anyone who thinks stabbing someone for putting a POPTART of all things on someones head is justifiable is a fucking moron.

words

Excuse me? I WAS bullied, but I never stabbed anybody, if you honestly think getting bullied is a justified reason to attempt to MURDER someone you are either insane or stupid.

Murder, attempted or otherwise, is never s justifiable response to anything. I don't care what the situation is. Arrest the guy doing to stabbing, he obviously isn't fit for society.

You obviously didn't read what I said, I didn't say it was justified, I said it was understandable.

Two different words.

Bullies don't deserve death for what they do, but they need to know that their actions have consequences. And if the one being bullied acts out against the bullies, it is the fault of the bullies.

That is the problem with the world these days, more and more people are deciding that their actions don't have consequences. They won't take responsibility for what they do. It is a real fact in life that a bully could get killed for what he does. It isn't right, but it is still the bully's fault.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

Sorry, double post. My computer wasn't loading my response, so I thought that it didn't get posted.

 

[klaynexas3]

You bullied him. You are at fault. You are an asshole, and I hope that you carry this for the rest of your life and realize that the old adage "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me" is a crock of shit.

I want to say so many horrible things to you, but I can't, because I value my place here in the Escapist community. Trust me though, if I said the things I wish to... you would not be a very happy camper.

then send them to me in a personal message. i don't think escapist will be mad at that. besides, i deserve it. what i thought was joking blew up, and i deserve whatever i have coming to me and i will most likely carry this with me forever

 

[tthor]

No you're not at fault, and anyone who thinks stabbing someone for putting a POPTART of all things on someones head is justifiable is a fucking moron.

words

Excuse me? I WAS bullied, but I never stabbed anybody, if you honestly think getting bullied is a justified reason to attempt to MURDER someone you are either insane or stupid.

Murder, attempted or otherwise, is never s justifiable response to anything. I don't care what the situation is. Arrest the guy doing to stabbing, he obviously isn't fit for society.

I was also bullied a great deal at a period in my life, and it drove me to dispair, depression, even contimplated suicide many times. words affect people different, some its merely brushes off there shoulder, and some its like a punch to the gut. it builds up over time, and can be very painful. it can haunt a person for their entire life, bring a person to the point where they are ready to explode on the next person who makes them feel hurt. was what this child did alright, definitely not! but i understand how he got to that point, and i feel pity for him.

 

[Madara XIII]

I have no idea who is who in this story. I hear "this guy", "this dude", "this kid" with no definitive labelling.

But from what I understood: Who the hell puts a poptart on someone's head? Waste of a good confectionery treat.

LOL I was thinking the same thing.....Just put a pop-tart on his head? Im thinking they just Placed it on there like a Hat..... Weird.

All joking aside the dude @OP shares a bit of the blame, even if he didn't think he was hurting him.

 

[klaynexas3]

Successful Troll is Successful.

To clarify, the title of the thread, the grammatical errors, and the wall of text lead me to believe that this is a troll thread. If the title was, "Am I at fault?" or, "Did I cause him to stab other people?", the thread would sound more genuine.

wait, you think that all the stuff i said that happened is just me trolling people? wow, no, i'm just that stupid when it comes to grammar. this is legitimate. it's not trolling. when i saw your comment at first when it just said successful troll is successful i thought you meant i was a troll for causing this kid to act out like he did. but yeah, this is a real story. one that i have caused.

 

[Deathkingo]

I was promised a poll...

 

[klaynexas3]

I was promised a poll...

yeah, it didn't show up for some reason, idk why

 

[Yoshemo]

So.. a cuban guy stabs another guy because he put a poptart on his head? Yeah thats not your fault. Hes just fucked up in the head. If he was angry enough from your treatment to get violent, you'd of seen it

 

[Delritho]

I was also bullied a great deal at a period in my life, and it drove me to dispair, depression, even contimplated suicide many times. words affect people different, some its merely brushes off there shoulder, and some its like a punch to the gut. it builds up over time, and can be very painful. it can haunt a person for their entire life, bring a person to the point where they are ready to explode on the next person who makes them feel hurt. was what this child did alright, definitely not! but i understand how he got to that point, and i feel pity for him.

I'm sorry to say, but I got a very low opinion of people who have to resort to violence, be it against others or themselves, to make themselves feel better, this goes to both bullies and the victims.

Sorry, but I don't like putting up with stupid "imma go kill myself now because some kids shoved and said mean words to me" bullshit.

Never once when I was getting bullied did I think "Gee, this sucks, better go off myself", or "Gee this sucks, better go and stab/shoot somebody."

I just don't see how this can go through peoples heads. Different upbringings I suppose. Given the fact my parents said fight back or get a thicker skin. I did a little of the former and more of the latter since the ones bullying me tried little psychical bullying.

Do I feel sorry for the kid getting 'bullied' well, going from the opening post. No, not at all, if he was laughing along and joking with them it seems he was fine with it, now if he was just playing along hoping they would stop, you can't really blame the ones that were teasing him, they are not fucking mind readers. He should of spoke up.

Of course, if the OP isn't telling the truth and the kid DID ask them to stop then yes, him and all his friends are douchebags. But that still does NOT excuse any sort of stabbings, I don't care WHAT his state of mind was. It was assault the first time and attempted murder the second, he should be behind bars.

 

[tthor]

Successful Troll is Successful.

To clarify, the title of the thread, the grammatical errors, and the wall of text lead me to believe that this is a troll thread. If the title was, "Am I at fault?" or, "Did I cause him to stab other people?", the thread would sound more genuine.

i am usually a pretty good judge of character and basic psychological stuff, this doesn't seem like a troll thread. the wording sounds like that of someone who feels confusion, shock, remorse. if a person wanted to make a troll thread, it would be highly doubtful to be like this, theres not enough conflict to cause people to want to trully flame it, it doesn't aim to get a strong reaction from them like a troll thread would.

and even if it was, i believe in situations like this, it is much beeter to feel sympathetic of a lie than it is to feel cheated by a truth.

 

[Theninja'skatana]

Maybe. Human minds=complex as hell.
But could he tell when you were messing around?

 

[tthor]

I was also bullied a great deal at a period in my life, and it drove me to dispair, depression, even contimplated suicide many times. words affect people different, some its merely brushes off there shoulder, and some its like a punch to the gut. it builds up over time, and can be very painful. it can haunt a person for their entire life, bring a person to the point where they are ready to explode on the next person who makes them feel hurt. was what this child did alright, definitely not! but i understand how he got to that point, and i feel pity for him.

I'm sorry to say, but I got a very low opinion of people who have to resort to violence, be it against others or themselves, to make themselves feel better, this goes to both bullies and the victims.

Sorry, but I don't like putting up with stupid "imma go kill myself now because some kids shoved and said mean words to me" bullshit.

Never once when I was getting bullied did I think "Gee, this sucks, better go off myself", or "Gee this sucks, better go and stab/shoot somebody."

I just don't see how this can go through peoples heads. Different upbringings I suppose. Given the fact my parents said fight back or get a thicker skin. I did a little of the former and more of the latter since the ones bullying me tried little psychical bullying.

Do I feel sorry for the kid getting 'bullied' well, going from the opening post. No, not at all, if he was laughing along and joking with them it seems he was fine with it, now if he was just playing along hoping they would stop, you can't really blame the ones that were teasing him, they are not fucking mind readers. He should of spoke up.

Of course, if the OP isn't telling the truth and the kid DID ask them to stop then yes, him and all his friends are douchebags. But that still does NOT excuse any sort of stabbings, I don't care WHAT his state of mind was. It was assault the first time and attempted murder the second, he should be behind bars.

just because it may seem stupid doesn't change the fact that many people do take their own lives because of bullying, even if it may be for seemingly stupid reasons. tho your experiences are valuable insight, you, just like all of us, are different in mind, emotion, and experiences. we do not share the same mind nor experiences as everyone else, and thus others may react in ways that seem strange to some of us. i laughed at many of the bullying directed at me, but it was only to hide my hurt feelings, and to not let them see that they successfully hurt me.
you seem like a logic oriented person. but majority of humans are emotional creatures, making them often act illogical and irrationally.

 

[klaynexas3]

Maybe. Human minds=complex as hell.
But could he tell when you were messing around?

well, he was laughing and joking around with us when we did it, and we mainly did it to each other so i guessed he knew that. maybe he didn't. but no one knows if it really was us messing with him or something else, maybe he was having a bad day or something. either way, the counselor's are looking at me and my friend for the dude stabbing the other guy.

 

[Theninja'skatana]

Maybe. Human minds=complex as hell.
But could he tell when you were messing around?

well, he was laughing and joking around with us when we did it, and we mainly did it to each other so i guessed he knew that. maybe he didn't. but no one knows if it really was us messing with him or something else, maybe he was having a bad day or something. either way, the counselor's are looking at me and my friend for the dude stabbing the other guy.

Again complex as hell but really only he (the dude) would know why.