Poll: did i pretty much make this kid snap?
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I laughed hard at that.Impposter said:
At OP: From what YOU described, it's not your fault. That kid is messed up. If he was distressed he should have told an adult like anyone else would, not try to murder someone.
At most replies: BULLYING IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR MURDER! I know alot of you were bullied at school and it was hell, but come on. Messed up kids get bullied and do messed up things; bullying alone (especially the kind in this situation) is not cause enough for extreme violence.
Well, partly. Partly your fault. But not entirely.
A) The kid should have told you to stop messing with him. And instead of STABBING someone when they get a pop-tart on their head (really, that big a deal?), tell them that it's not cool. He took action too fast and got violent when he should have tried diplomacy first.
B) Kids are cruel, I teased, was teased. It's easy to jump on the bandwagon with friends and make fun of someone. I think it's pretty common, almost natural for kids to do. School isn't easy. For anyone (mostly). Everyone experiences bullying. His problems probably stem from many issues, but bullying definitely didn't help.
C)I hope the kid with who got his lung punctured makes a full and healthy recovery. And I hope all of you learned a valuable lesson that you can take with you for the rest of your lives. Teasing can be fun and jovial with friends, but there are lines. Make them clear.
Good luck, mate.
A) The kid should have told you to stop messing with him. And instead of STABBING someone when they get a pop-tart on their head (really, that big a deal?), tell them that it's not cool. He took action too fast and got violent when he should have tried diplomacy first.
B) Kids are cruel, I teased, was teased. It's easy to jump on the bandwagon with friends and make fun of someone. I think it's pretty common, almost natural for kids to do. School isn't easy. For anyone (mostly). Everyone experiences bullying. His problems probably stem from many issues, but bullying definitely didn't help.
C)I hope the kid with who got his lung punctured makes a full and healthy recovery. And I hope all of you learned a valuable lesson that you can take with you for the rest of your lives. Teasing can be fun and jovial with friends, but there are lines. Make them clear.
Good luck, mate.
Racist joke, read at your own discretion
But now a more serious answer. I don't think you're the reason he would go through such extreme measures as to stab somebody for that. Must have been years of repressing something else and then he took it out on your friend.
However, if you ARE the reason, that kid REALLY needs to be locked up. Stabbing somebody just because they are bullying them is just... well lets just stick with FUBAR.
I think he did it because well, he is cuban
But now a more serious answer. I don't think you're the reason he would go through such extreme measures as to stab somebody for that. Must have been years of repressing something else and then he took it out on your friend.
However, if you ARE the reason, that kid REALLY needs to be locked up. Stabbing somebody just because they are bullying them is just... well lets just stick with FUBAR.
Do not listen to these people who say you are responsible for someone else's actions. I was bullied a lot as a child and I got over it. Do not make more of this than it is and don't let these other people lay their problems at your feet.
The only thing you should take from this is to try to be a kinder person and that's it. All of this anonymous finger pointing is hateful and is it self a kind of bullying. Don't listen to it.
The only thing you should take from this is to try to be a kinder person and that's it. All of this anonymous finger pointing is hateful and is it self a kind of bullying. Don't listen to it.
That's what he displayed on the outside, but inside could have been an entirely different story.klaynexas3 said:
I say no.
You can't do anything about people with violent tendencies.
Provoked or not the kid most likely would have attacked someone else for something.
He seemed ok with it, you didn't know he was packin' shiv.
Don't feel bad.
You can't do anything about people with violent tendencies.
Provoked or not the kid most likely would have attacked someone else for something.
He seemed ok with it, you didn't know he was packin' shiv.
Don't feel bad.
I'm sorry. To me this whole thing sounds like common joking gone wrong. Seriously, I call my best friend fat every time I see him. He calls me gay in response. We both know full well neither of us mean it.
I get the impression that is what the OP is saying the relationship seemed like to him. If this is indeed the case, then no. I would say you are not at fault here, but I will say, be a little more careful on guaging reactions. Whenever I tell a joke that may not work well, I watch to see how they react, especially if I repeat it. Of course, this assumes that the story wasn't sugarcoated. I've been bullied enough to recognize the "going with it" response, and that may be what this guy was doing. If this is the case, you may have a part in causing him to snap, but I agree with the posters who say that you shouldn't blame yourself for the stabbing. If it had just been an asskicking, then sure. But the stabbing goes a lot farther than you.
Now your counselor, again, if the OP is true, then he could use a good verbal asskicking himself. He is clearly not doing his job right.
I get the impression that is what the OP is saying the relationship seemed like to him. If this is indeed the case, then no. I would say you are not at fault here, but I will say, be a little more careful on guaging reactions. Whenever I tell a joke that may not work well, I watch to see how they react, especially if I repeat it. Of course, this assumes that the story wasn't sugarcoated. I've been bullied enough to recognize the "going with it" response, and that may be what this guy was doing. If this is the case, you may have a part in causing him to snap, but I agree with the posters who say that you shouldn't blame yourself for the stabbing. If it had just been an asskicking, then sure. But the stabbing goes a lot farther than you.
Now your counselor, again, if the OP is true, then he could use a good verbal asskicking himself. He is clearly not doing his job right.
Well maybe it's because I'm australian but I don't see how you could of harmed him in anyway way. If what you said is true and he laughed and return "insults" when you guys were mucking around then I can't see it as your fault in anyway. If he saw it as your fault then he's the asshole for not informing you that he wasn't comfortable with it and instead going straight for violence.klaynexas3 said:
BTW, The Escapist is probably the wrong place to ask your question, a majority of the escapists population has probably been bullied so you might get a bias response.
That's horribly narrow and a straight up detestable viewpoint to take up. It's obviously an act of despicable cowardice to relentlessly torment someone who is clearly socially inept, it's quite another to casually joke with peers (if they are uncomfortable with anything said, it's their responsibility to make it known).teh_pwning_dude said:
To suggest such an extreme reaction is appropriate in even genuine bullying, which the OPs example clearly was not, demonstrates incredibly poor judgment....To claim it as an act of courage in a situation, to actively encourage mindless violence is...stupid just doesn't do it justice. Surely you're not so blinded by hatred of whatever issues you've had to see that the 'bully' and 'victim' are often subjective, and it's not uncommon for someone who feels victimized to 'bully' their perceived aggressor.
If the natural reaction was to stab people (who you've previously joked around with) whenever they make a tasteless joke during a bad day, everyone would either be dead or a murderer. This kid is quite obviously unwell, and you see fit to glorify his moment of stupidity, what will no be the biggest regret in his life... that's sick.
The kid who stabbed others, you and all your bully friends should all be kicked out of school. You all obviously can't function in a civilised society so GTFO. The knife kid should get therapy to undo the mental damage he obviously has/been forced upon him. You and your friends have no excuse. Racism nevermind bullying has no place anywhere in society, and obvioulsy neither do you or your friends.
remember when a bunch of kids were bullied all their lives so one day they brought guns into school and shot all their bullies? Yeah Collumbine is exactly how bulling can progress to. If this story is even true then you are lucky he didn't snap and do something worse.
Sorry but you and your friends need to do a lot of growing up. Preferably away from everybody else.
remember when a bunch of kids were bullied all their lives so one day they brought guns into school and shot all their bullies? Yeah Collumbine is exactly how bulling can progress to. If this story is even true then you are lucky he didn't snap and do something worse.
Sorry but you and your friends need to do a lot of growing up. Preferably away from everybody else.