Poll: Does Naruto upset you too?
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I don't really see where the story comes into major play. I haven't started watching Shippuuden, and when I do it'll be in Japanese. The story, to me, seems like something he came up with half-assedly and uses mainly as an excuse to get these characters to beat each other up. Also, the fillers are horrible.
Very true, luckily they continued with shipudden, but honestly, if it weren't for the akatsuki, I'd have stopped watching the show a while ago. They are the only villains in the show worth talking about, as orochimaru is just a freak and kabuto is a moron. So its a shame they keep killing off all the cool akatsuki ,(ie Kakuzu)Qayin said:
Well, it's passable in Japanese.
But, MY GOD. Watch it in English and rejoyce that you never have to again once you're done!
BELIEVE IT.
But, MY GOD. Watch it in English and rejoyce that you never have to again once you're done!
BELIEVE IT.
The manga is better....the manga is always better.
I actually hate Naruto the first saga (the whole "believe it" thing pissed me off), but when it came to the shippuden, I loved it.
Naruto is actually a really good manga, but the reason why all the hate, including all the halo hate, is not because of the manga itself, but the fanbase around it.
I actually hate Naruto the first saga (the whole "believe it" thing pissed me off), but when it came to the shippuden, I loved it.
Naruto is actually a really good manga, but the reason why all the hate, including all the halo hate, is not because of the manga itself, but the fanbase around it.
Yes, exremely. Same as with all anime. Though for some reason I feel like this one is worse... Just a feeling, since obviously I haven't watched any of it.
Eh. The core is ok I think. Not the best, but not terrible. The grade E filler and gratuitous recap is what really does the damage. And it takes a huge level of badness to upset me. Like, a piece of media that's bad enough to upset me would transcend human experience in the same manner that the dinosaur killing apocalypse doesn't resonate with human understanding.
Worst mainstream anime. I personally don't mind filler, but Naruto made filler look worse than it did before. Ninjas were cool once. They could jump out of the shadows, slice your nipples off, finger your girlfriend, and jump across a lake with poles put there earlier. Then we get this little blonde haired prick going around everywhere yelling "I'm gona be a ninja! Believe it!" If this was in China when ninjas were around, the Emperor would have his ugly little head on a stake, or maybe a less European fate.
To me, if every anime was a country, Naruto would be America. It has a childish run in and kill everything feel, dispite dragging out fights. I've seen the Japanese version, and it still sucks. This show fit in more when Cartoon Network was treating it like a "come and go" show. It was fun to watch, with great potential down the road. Now, it is the emo-suckfest we know today. I really wish people would just get over it. There are so many good animes. Why does this crappy one have to be mainstream?
To me, if every anime was a country, Naruto would be America. It has a childish run in and kill everything feel, dispite dragging out fights. I've seen the Japanese version, and it still sucks. This show fit in more when Cartoon Network was treating it like a "come and go" show. It was fun to watch, with great potential down the road. Now, it is the emo-suckfest we know today. I really wish people would just get over it. There are so many good animes. Why does this crappy one have to be mainstream?
Same thing happened to me, then i watched Bleach and it blew naruto out of the water. Then i watched One Piece and it fucked both of them by shoving thier heads up the oppisite one's ass. One Piece is da shit. 400+ episodes and around 10 fillers, great job! Other anime's that destroyed naruto and bleach would be: Soul Eater, Hitman Reborn, and FLCL. None are as good as One Piece but still better then Naruto and Bleach...
Naruto was good at the beginning. It did something new (if a tad illogical, but it's anime so...), the main characters were all stupid brats, they had a mysterious laid-back sensei who could kick ass when he wanted and they had fairly well defined backgrounds and personalities.
Then it all went downhill with all the 'let's talk for 3 episodes about my crappy past while we fight' stuff of inconsequential side-characters and the switch from team-dynamic to the Mr. Emo-pants and all further development as characters was halted when Mr. Yellow Knucklehead aka "Naruto" couldn't deal with life and got with a single idea to his head "Gotta get Sasuke back". Naruto was supposed to be the kid with a troubled past, a real lonely-wolf kind survivor looking for eny kind of meaningful contact with others, a really quirky mentality and the emotional depth of a spoon. Then he just tunerd to the idiot knucklehead who suddenly couldn't deal with reality and effectively went braindead.
Then there are the fillers... GYYYAAARGH.
And let's not talk about that Rasengan. Knucklehead just turned to a one-trick monkey. Yay...? Great going there, switching all that potential and possibility to grow as a character and in-world ninja to a Naruto-labelled 2D-cardboard with a 'I-win' button taped on him.
EDIT:well, okay, he got turned to a two-trick monkey, Kage Bunshin being his first. But even then he at least had some kind of different tactics instead of simply charging the enemy up front for the gazillionth time and expecting to do anything more than distract by it. At least he used surprise and ambushes, traps and underhanded tricks instead of just charging in shouting 'Rasengan!' for all the world to hear.
In essence, you had the start to a great story with interesting characters and so much potential for the story to go and characters to grow up. Then it all got thrown to the trash-bin when one character didn't seem to grow up at all (Sakura), Naruto illogically lost all ability to deal with reality and Mr. Emo got brainwashed and ultra-powerful in one go and their teacher was suddenly downgraded from a laid-back silent cool ultra-though guy to simply a laid-back has-been who's reputation apparently was in no way grounded in reality.
So... yeah. Naruto as a series could have been great, but got turned to utter trash.
Then it all went downhill with all the 'let's talk for 3 episodes about my crappy past while we fight' stuff of inconsequential side-characters and the switch from team-dynamic to the Mr. Emo-pants and all further development as characters was halted when Mr. Yellow Knucklehead aka "Naruto" couldn't deal with life and got with a single idea to his head "Gotta get Sasuke back". Naruto was supposed to be the kid with a troubled past, a real lonely-wolf kind survivor looking for eny kind of meaningful contact with others, a really quirky mentality and the emotional depth of a spoon. Then he just tunerd to the idiot knucklehead who suddenly couldn't deal with reality and effectively went braindead.
Then there are the fillers... GYYYAAARGH.
And let's not talk about that Rasengan. Knucklehead just turned to a one-trick monkey. Yay...? Great going there, switching all that potential and possibility to grow as a character and in-world ninja to a Naruto-labelled 2D-cardboard with a 'I-win' button taped on him.
EDIT:well, okay, he got turned to a two-trick monkey, Kage Bunshin being his first. But even then he at least had some kind of different tactics instead of simply charging the enemy up front for the gazillionth time and expecting to do anything more than distract by it. At least he used surprise and ambushes, traps and underhanded tricks instead of just charging in shouting 'Rasengan!' for all the world to hear.
In essence, you had the start to a great story with interesting characters and so much potential for the story to go and characters to grow up. Then it all got thrown to the trash-bin when one character didn't seem to grow up at all (Sakura), Naruto illogically lost all ability to deal with reality and Mr. Emo got brainwashed and ultra-powerful in one go and their teacher was suddenly downgraded from a laid-back silent cool ultra-though guy to simply a laid-back has-been who's reputation apparently was in no way grounded in reality.
So... yeah. Naruto as a series could have been great, but got turned to utter trash.
The sensible fan would have skipped those ridiculous fillers and moved straight to Shippuden. Lucky for me, there were 40+ Shippudens by the time I got to it. I love Naruto as a story, the manga is actually excellent, the anime just has a lot of cheesy grins and the happy-go-lucky feel.Qayin said: