Poll: East vs. West: RPGs
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Calling WoW, Fable and Dungeon Siege isn't splitting hairs over what is an isn't an RPG.Abedeus said:
All of these games were created with Roleplaying as an intended part of the game, to some extent or another.
You are being pedantic, and a very poor critic.
Some of the Western RPGs you listed are not even RPGs. Namely Dungeon Seige, Ultima and World of Warcraft.
The first is a hack n' slash with rpg elements (mostly hack n' slash) and the latter two are MMOs.
Back on the subject though, it's a hard call between western and eastern RPGs. I would honestly say its hit or miss for both sides, both have had some amazing games and some amazing flops.
The first is a hack n' slash with rpg elements (mostly hack n' slash) and the latter two are MMOs.
Back on the subject though, it's a hard call between western and eastern RPGs. I would honestly say its hit or miss for both sides, both have had some amazing games and some amazing flops.
I like them both. Each has appeals, each has negatives. Why limit yourself? A good game is a good game.
If I had to pick, I tend to go JRPG more, but I'll pursue a Western RPG if I hear good things(Vampire, Witcher).
JRPGs have gone downhill as of late outside of the Shin Megami Tensei banner, sadly. But at least SMT is still good.
If I had to pick, I tend to go JRPG more, but I'll pursue a Western RPG if I hear good things(Vampire, Witcher).
JRPGs have gone downhill as of late outside of the Shin Megami Tensei banner, sadly. But at least SMT is still good.
Bah except for the combat, it's a solid RPG. I wonder does a RPG needs to be turned-based to be a RPG?Abedeus said:
I can't really vote on this because of the wide spectrum of JRPG's out there and the rather slim picking of the Western RPG's
Western RPG's fall pretty much into the D&D based gameplay, in fact some of the most respected are straight from the world of D&D/Forgotten Realms, BG series, Icewind Dale series, Planescape:Torment NWN and NWN2.
The serious downside to Western RPG is that if you can't get into D&D then most of those quality titles are lost which means you're limited to games like the Elder Scrolls series, Fallout series and so on...also most of these older titles are getting long in the tooth and eventually will require an older laptop or rig to be able to run them.
The Elder Scrolls has always been known for it's graphics and massive area (See: Arena) but except for Battlespire, Redguard and Morrowind the story is very flat and rather forgettable as are the characters...very little stands out, unlike games like Planescape in which Morte is forever etched in our minds.
In closing, i think western RPG's are slowly falling into the murky depths of action/adventure with little story or character development
Western RPG's fall pretty much into the D&D based gameplay, in fact some of the most respected are straight from the world of D&D/Forgotten Realms, BG series, Icewind Dale series, Planescape:Torment NWN and NWN2.
The serious downside to Western RPG is that if you can't get into D&D then most of those quality titles are lost which means you're limited to games like the Elder Scrolls series, Fallout series and so on...also most of these older titles are getting long in the tooth and eventually will require an older laptop or rig to be able to run them.
The Elder Scrolls has always been known for it's graphics and massive area (See: Arena) but except for Battlespire, Redguard and Morrowind the story is very flat and rather forgettable as are the characters...very little stands out, unlike games like Planescape in which Morte is forever etched in our minds.
In closing, i think western RPG's are slowly falling into the murky depths of action/adventure with little story or character development
Immersion and general quality-wise: Western RPGs.
Also because JRPGs scare me and generally fail... like Final Fantasy.
Also because JRPGs scare me and generally fail... like Final Fantasy.
Sorry for the quote, but your post made me think. What were the last 3 Western RPG games i was playing, which were 100% RPG and not some crossover game. I got really disappointed, because it was Drakensang (some german game, i'm not even sure if there is an english version), Neverwinter Nights 2 and before that Fallout 2, which was released september 1998. Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Dungeon Siege 1+2, the Diablo Series, Witcher, etc. all were games, which I wouldn't call RPG. It may be a personal thing, but I came to the conclusion that the western RPG lacks in number of titles.cj_iwakura said:
I'm getting confused. What does take to make a game being a RPG?Random argument man said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_video_game
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I liked that line most:
"RPGs rarely challenge a player's physical coordination, with the exception of action role-playing games."
You're forgetting the letters after MMO. You know, the whole RPG part? MMOs are basically all RPGs, since they follow the format created by D&D and tabletop games of that ilk. Saying they're not RPGs is just burying your head in the sand. As is calling it "hack 'n slash with elements of RPG". D&D was originally all about exploring dungeons, killing monsters and taking their stuff.Kstreitenfeld said:
As a D&D player myself, I think I would have to say I'm more of a fan of Western RPGs, though I've found a few gems in the JRPG bin.
Western RPG's, mostly because JRPG's are usually turn-based and seem to often have some element of "THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RETARDEDLY HUGE", like someone's sword or hair. And most of them seem to involve young people/kids running around doing all sorts of stuff no grown man (much less child) has business doing. Mostly, though, it's the turn-based bit. JRPG's, for the most part, can be pretty good but aren't always.
Oh and Elder Scrolls is a Western RPG.
Oh and Elder Scrolls is a Western RPG.
