Poll: How would you punish a rapist?

hawkeye52

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Imprisonment/rehabilitation

However what people need to realise is that their has to be an account of the circumstances.

Was the victim repeatedly raped or was it apart of serial rapes of different people, was it a one off?
Was the victim aware of who the person was or a stranger?
Did any consensual activity happen before?
Was the victim made pregnant (assuming the victim is female) or catch an STD from the rapist?

You can't ask such a blanket question on something like this. In England the sentencing ranges anywhere between 5-life imprisonment (Which is a minimum of 30 years) which shows how diverse a crime like this
 
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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
On a separate tangent, I support the death penalty because it seems more humane to die quickly then to sit for 60 years in a 8x8 room.

What I advocate here would only work in a perfect society where the judicial system is right every single time. But it doesn't change my feelings in the matter. One of my friends was raped when she was 14. She still has psychological trauma to this day, 12 years later. People who sexually assault deserve no mercy from the friends and family of the victim.


In a perfect society there would be no need for any such thing, because rape wouldn't be an issue.


Your ideas on the subject are contradicted by the very nature in which you deem them acceptable to commit.
 

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
knight steel said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Yay that means I'm safe *phew* for a second there I was worried [well not really but it makes for good humor] your avatar is cute is that you cosplaying as medusa or someone else :)
That is a friend of mine Cosplaying. She did a wonderful job.
Yes she did >_<
Send her my compliments!!!
[she'll be overjoyed that a random internet goer likes her costume]
To bad she couldn't dress up as chibi Medusa:
 

NinjaDeathSlap

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
NinjaDeathSlap said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
My answer would likely get me banned and possibly arrested. In short: a lot of acid, cheese graters, bicycle pumps, and only after the rapist has suffered more than every human combined will I permit him to kill himself with a rusty razor.

Speak how it has no place in a civil society, people like that have no place there either. Violence is an effective deterrent. If others know what will happen if they are caught, they will be MUCH less likely to do it.

"Shoot them if they break the law. In fact, shoot one now, so that they get the message loud and clear."
The British Parliament back in the 18th Century had a similar ethos, in response to rising crime rates, particularly of crimes that were often associated with violence, such as smuggling and highway robbery. There reaction to this was known as The Bloody Code, which essentially issued the death penalty for pretty much everything there was a law against at the time, with the aim of scaring the populace into line.

It didn't work.

Violent criminals were still able to operate with impunity, because even though being caught meant the hangman's noose, there was little chance of them being caught in the first place and half of them were starving anyway. Things actually got better for criminals, because now the public was so disgusted by The Bloody Code that innocent bystanders would now go out of their way to protect the lawbreakers from the authorities. On the occasions when they were caught, the public hangings only served as an attraction for pick-pockets and other petty criminals, flouting the law right in front of the grizzly example that was supposed to be being set for them.

While not all the conditions that contributed to the abject failure of The Bloody Code to deter crime are applicable here, it is only one of many examples throughout history that serve to prove what you say is total rubbish. Brutal punishments do not act as a deterrent, certainly not on their own. The sort of conditions a rapist can expect to receive inside the prison systems of most nations is already rather barbaric, and yet rape is still widespread. Why? Because so many cases of rape go unreported, and even then so many of those that are don't result in a conviction. The small chance of actually having to face any kind of punishment makes it a risk worth taking for the potential rapist, no matter how painful or undignified the punishment in question might be.

Better education on the nuances of consent during are formative years, a better and more widely understood set of laws determining what is and isn't rape, and a police force that reaches out to potential victims, and is better equipped to catch and convict the guilty parities. These are the things we need to stop rapists, before we even get to discussing what punishment they should receive. Even then, we shouldn't on principle stoop to barbarism.
Perhaps you are right about that. I speak with a lot of emotion considering a friend of mine was raped when she was 14. I tend to go a little overboard when it comes to sexual assault cases.
That's understandable. It's a very emotive subject. Still, it's a real and widespread problem that needs solutions, and to do that we need to separate ourselves from the emotive nature of the crime no matter how difficult that may be. Simply put, if a close friend or family member of mine was raped, I'd want to spend a lot of alone time with the rapist, some shackles, and a circular saw, and that's exactly the reason why it's a good thing I wouldn't be allowed to sit on the jury trying said rapist. True justice can only happen when we take a step back and look at the whole picture, and when you have a close personal involvement with the crime that's next to impossible to do.
 

Daverson

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Take them apart, there's always a shortage of organ donators.

People like this destroy lives, it's only fitting their punishment should save lives.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
I'm not claiming that current systems are perfect, far from it, but considering that large percentage of prisoners suffer from some specification of learning disorder, there needs to be more done on the rehabilitation front.

Do we punish the sick now?
I think I get where you're going with this, but that leaves me with another doubt: Okay, the perpetrator is sick and didn't have the knowledge, capacity or whatever in order to restrain himself from harming/killing another living being. On one hand, I agree it would be a shame to waste his/her life because of one mistake. However, their mistake is made and has consequences, not only for the victim, but for the victim's close people and even society. Of course we shouldn't base a legal system solely on satisfying the revenge urge in all people affected by criminal behavior, but we can't also ignore it, because then, people will live with the feeling that their rights don't matter so much, if people that ignore their basic rights are just sent away for some time (maybe we should have a thread about what prison should be like...).

PS: I feel like I'm derailing from the thread already. Also, I'm in doubt if this is because of me or you, Daystar, "you magnificent bastard", although I haven't read your book!
 
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Amaury_games said:
Daystar Clarion said:
I'm not claiming that current systems are perfect, far from it, but considering that large percentage of prisoners suffer from some specification of learning disorder, there needs to be more done on the rehabilitation front.

Do we punish the sick now?
I think I get where you're going with this, but that leaves me with another doubt: Okay, the perpetrator is sick and didn't have the knowledge, capacity or whatever in order to restrain himself from harming/killing another living being. On one hand, I agree it would be a shame to waste his/her life because of one mistake. However, their mistake is made and has consequences, not only for the victim, but for the victim's close people and even society. Of course we shouldn't base a legal system solely on satisfying the revenge urge in all people affected by criminal behavior, but we can't also ignore it, because then, people will live with the feeling that their rights don't matter so much, if people that ignore their basic rights are just sent away for some time (maybe we should have a thread about what prison should be like...).

PS: I feel like I'm derailing from the thread already. Also, I'm in doubt if this is because of me or you, Daystar, "you magnificent bastard", although I haven't read your book!
The last person you ask 'what do you think is justice?' is the victim.

Emotion has no place in a court of law. Some countries have thousands of years of history in regards to penology, and they still haven't gotten it right :D

There never will be a perfect system for dealing with criminals, but that doesn't mean we should stop trying.
 

HellbirdIV

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Imprisonment and rehabilitation, because it's the goddamned 21st Century and under no circumstances are torture or murder acceptable legal punishments.
 

CardinalPiggles

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I'd say chop their dicks off. No more raping for them, and they'd be free to re enter society after a short stay in hospital.

Yes I'm absolutely serious. You can't change a mans nature by locking him up in a cage with nothing to have sex with, surrounded by men who definitely won't make the rapist feel empowered.

As for the death sentence, it's very extreme and in my opinion should only be considered in the most extreme cases of murder (ie for someone who kills because they like it).
 

Evilpigeon

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I am for the castration option.

If you cannot use it responsibly, you shouldn't have it!

And for the people who say imprisonment, prison is only bad for child molesters. Given that rape actually happens in prison, do you really think the other inmates give two shits about a rapist. And how do prisons rehabilitate anyway? That is one thing I have never been able to comprehend...
This is a problem with the prison system in places like the US, rather than a problem with the concept of rehabilitation. Countries that provide a decent living standard in their prisons and who don't focus on imprisonment as revenge (good example is Norway) have significantly lower reoffending rates because they treat their prisoners like people and endeavour to help fix whatever problems were stopping them from intergrating with society.

Revenge is petty, barbaric and illogical why anyone not directly involved wants to harm someone when they're helpless is beyond me. Why would you destroy something when you can fix it?
 

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I will not abide by acts of cruelty simply to appease the revenge crowd. Such pathetic thoughts have no place in civilized society. Just throw them in prison and try to rehabilitate them. If he improves his behavior give him another chance. If he remains morally corrupt you keep him locked up for the rest of his life.

Death is such an easy way out. I don't know if people lack creativity of basic common sense but being locked up for the rest of your life is so much worse in every way.
 

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I like how the first option adds the little parenthetical to make us guilty for choosing it. Well screw you. We're not a barbaric society, and if you break the law, we'll send you to jail, but we won't subject you to medieval horrors.

Wanna know why? Because we might be wrong. We might have gotten the wrong guy. We might be able to rehabilitate someone. The system is broken right now, but it's better than alternatives.
 

Mr Cwtchy

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Rape is a barbaric, horrific act that has no place in a society that calls itself civilised.

Replace 'rape' with torture, mutilation or capital punishment and you have my viewpoint.
 

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Justice is not about punishment. It's about the safety of people. An eye for an eye is stupid and even creepy. Not to mention it has been proven senseless countless of times. Be the better person people.
 

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I voted for death.

If the rapist is convicted beyond a shadow of doubt, then ensuring the safety of society by destroying the offender is the best option, in my opinion. If death is the punishment for rape, then rapists would be left with litle choice but to atone/abstain/change.

As to the assertion that rapists could concieveably turn to murdering victims to remove witnesses, rapists can and have killed their victims in the past for being able to identify them, even without a guaranteed death penalty. People who make such descisions are monsters. When found, they should be destroyed.

Mind you, I wasn't thinking about date rape or any other variants/situations. I am just considering convicted rapists.

What a cheery subject!
 
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the December King said:
I voted for death.

If the rapist is convicted beyond a shadow of doubt.
It's happened before, and that person was later found to be innocent.

There is no such thing as 'beyond a shadow of doubt' when it comes to capital punishment.