Poll: Is there any hope Dragon Age?
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Hm, that's a sign that my memory is going then.Kahunaburger said:
Ouch. Though it wasn't all like that.
Haha, I think this is kind of right. The combat isn't as tactical as people think it is - it's basically standard tank and spank [http://www.wowwiki.com/Tank_and_spank] with crowd control from the mages on more or less any difficulty setting. I thought Witcher 1/2, Devil Survivor (really any SMT game), and Spirit Engine 2 are all better examples of RPGs that require actual tactics. Sh*t, I've used more complex strategies in the very non-tactical Mass Effect 2 with cover-based shooting, squad commands, and Vanguard charge.Lenvoran said:
I loved DA2. It was nowhere near as deep as DA:O, and it was pretty obviously not finished, but it still was a fantastic game.
DA3 will be better, though. BioWare hasn't gotten this far by being dumbasses.
DA3 will be better, though. BioWare hasn't gotten this far by being dumbasses.
DA2's combat was alright, maybe less strategic and more button mashy, but I've seen worse.The slap in the face of dragon age 2 was that the series was supposed to be the "spiritual successor" to baldur's gate, one of the greatest games ever. Instead of offering more depth and a better story in the sequel, they made a worse game in nearly every regard. The story was paced terribly, and as yahtzee said, the only time you felt like an epic quest was about to begin was at the very end for the sequel. The sense of scale is pathetic, and they copy pasted dungeons to save time. But then it all comes back to the reason dragon age 2 was made, it was made for lots and lots of money. It was rushed for money, and EA wants to charge dlc for it because it wants money. Unless Bioware completely changes the game, scraps every character and plotline from dragon age 2, I wont buy a sequel.
I found the second entry into the franchise to be an enjoyable one, though the less said about the last act the better...
I feel they've lost their direction a little though. What most people liked about the first was the depth at which you could customise your character. Having these elements stripped away, remaining in the same city for the entire game and having little to no choices in the final act dragged it down imo.
They can still salvage it though. Despite the flaws, I thought it played well and enjoyed it regardless and don't feel it deserves the amount of hate it's getting.
I feel they've lost their direction a little though. What most people liked about the first was the depth at which you could customise your character. Having these elements stripped away, remaining in the same city for the entire game and having little to no choices in the final act dragged it down imo.
They can still salvage it though. Despite the flaws, I thought it played well and enjoyed it regardless and don't feel it deserves the amount of hate it's getting.
No, it did deserve all of it. A game company shouldn't be able to get away with calling its game the "Baldur's Gate" spiritual successor, then telling all its original fans to fuck off for a larger audience.WillN7 said:
If the trend continues we may be looking at Mass Effect 3: Post-Modern Warfare.
Ok stop reading here people if you didnt finish both games.
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DA3 is probably going to fuck it's self over in my opinion. I loved DA:O and in the end gave up my own life and in DA2 they mentioned the Warden went missing so what my body decided it didn't like the dirt their and got up and left c'mon. Story is going to be hard to fix but not impossible.
DA:O-Good customization the character felt like you had control over them, interesting spells, good dialog tree (I don't care if The warden is voice acted) and amazing story.
DA2-Decent customization of Hawke, Spell branches were better but felt lacking in upgrades, dialog wasn't as good (I like Mass Effect ok but I felt that the dialog wheel didn't suit it here), Combat was a A+ for me sure they took out those nifty execution animations but that only slowed my killing spree, Story was decent but felt forced no matter what you do the church WILL blow up and you WILL have to choose a side and you WILL have to fight both the harvester and the Knight-Captain.
Put the 2 together then lets talk about DA3
God sorry for that just needed that out there.
SPOILERS:
DA3 is probably going to fuck it's self over in my opinion. I loved DA:O and in the end gave up my own life and in DA2 they mentioned the Warden went missing so what my body decided it didn't like the dirt their and got up and left c'mon. Story is going to be hard to fix but not impossible.
DA:O-Good customization the character felt like you had control over them, interesting spells, good dialog tree (I don't care if The warden is voice acted) and amazing story.
DA2-Decent customization of Hawke, Spell branches were better but felt lacking in upgrades, dialog wasn't as good (I like Mass Effect ok but I felt that the dialog wheel didn't suit it here), Combat was a A+ for me sure they took out those nifty execution animations but that only slowed my killing spree, Story was decent but felt forced no matter what you do the church WILL blow up and you WILL have to choose a side and you WILL have to fight both the harvester and the Knight-Captain.
Put the 2 together then lets talk about DA3
God sorry for that just needed that out there.
ill agree to this, it very much seems like it builds up alot of backstory for something bigger, and that everyone inevitably compares it to the first oneBara_no_Hime said:
stand alone? not a bad game, i enjoyed it and will probably play it once or twice again before summer is over.
Sometimes, I get the horrible feeling that Bioware have come to the conclusion that there's no point making a great game when a mediocre one will sell buckets with the right name attached.
Still, it would be nice to be surprised. DA:O was a damn fine game, even with the endless load times.
Still, it would be nice to be surprised. DA:O was a damn fine game, even with the endless load times.
i never played dragon age 2 but i think they killed the series with dragon age origins. okay maybe thats a little harsh but DA:O was a huge disappointment to me. maybe it was because i was comparing it to the baldurs gate series but while baldurs gate felt like a simplified version of d&d, dragon age felt like a simplified version of baldurs gate. i didnt find the story particularly deep and the only characters i cared about were morrigan and allistar, and thats just because they were funny. ive come to realize im not a fan of bioware, in general. though ive never played the mass effect games.Nicholas Woodruff said:
Old topic is old? There've been many posts on this, dunno why it's even a thing anymore.
But as for the topic itself, we'll see what happens with the next one. If they actually listen to the criticism and figure out what to do with it, then they could redeem themselves. If not, then it just becomes another franchise that goes by the wayside...probably to be revived ten years later.
But as for the topic itself, we'll see what happens with the next one. If they actually listen to the criticism and figure out what to do with it, then they could redeem themselves. If not, then it just becomes another franchise that goes by the wayside...probably to be revived ten years later.