Poll: Lying to get laid is OK?
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Two thoughts.
1. Depends on what you're lying about. "I'm a duke/astronaut/musician" is pretty harmless; "I don't have any venereal diseases" = scum of the Earth.
2. I'm not terribly concerned with "Is it OK?" More so, "Do I want to be the kind of person who has to lie to get laid? For me, getting any kind of attention from women has had nothing to do with something I lied about. I stand out because I don't need to bullshit them and tell them I'm hung like a beached whale, and I've walked away from a girl and never spoken to her again when she asked me to tell her I loved her before we would fuck (I'd met her 2 days prior). Can't say I regret that, though my hand got quite a workout that night.
1. Depends on what you're lying about. "I'm a duke/astronaut/musician" is pretty harmless; "I don't have any venereal diseases" = scum of the Earth.
2. I'm not terribly concerned with "Is it OK?" More so, "Do I want to be the kind of person who has to lie to get laid? For me, getting any kind of attention from women has had nothing to do with something I lied about. I stand out because I don't need to bullshit them and tell them I'm hung like a beached whale, and I've walked away from a girl and never spoken to her again when she asked me to tell her I loved her before we would fuck (I'd met her 2 days prior). Can't say I regret that, though my hand got quite a workout that night.
Depending on the lie, but for the most part no you shouldn't.
It really depends on the lie, but if you're talking about lying about how you feel (that's the first thing I assumed) then no. Lying about your feelings towards somebody just to get them to have sex with you so you can turn around and tell them it wasn't true is awful. I really hope that's not what you meant.
It really depends on the lie, but if you're talking about lying about how you feel (that's the first thing I assumed) then no. Lying about your feelings towards somebody just to get them to have sex with you so you can turn around and tell them it wasn't true is awful. I really hope that's not what you meant.
I'd like to see you having sex standing up. Da-dum-tsh!
Seriously though, no. It'll always lead to problems, especially when lying about health.
Seriously though, no. It'll always lead to problems, especially when lying about health.
um... isn't not telling the absolute truth, and in some way tricking somebody into sex rape?MasTerHacK said:
if they're shallow enough to sleep with you on the basis of something you can fabricate, then you're not losing much moral ground. I wouldnt lie to someone you actually like, but accentuating the truth is acceptable.
I'm assuming it to be a relatively standard sized lie ("my girlfriend left me last week" would be about the upper limit). IN which case, yeah, but only really if it's a one-night stand with someone you don't particularly know/don't know at all. Lying to get in bed with a friend is for some reason worse to me than lying to get in bed with a stranger.
Though, if your lie is something like "I come from a war-torn village in Africa whose unique customs include interesting and innovative sexual positions. Our entire village was wiped out by war, and I am the only survivor. Won't you help me keep our traditions alive?", no, it's never okay because that's basically the Nigerian Price scam.
Though, if your lie is something like "I come from a war-torn village in Africa whose unique customs include interesting and innovative sexual positions. Our entire village was wiped out by war, and I am the only survivor. Won't you help me keep our traditions alive?", no, it's never okay because that's basically the Nigerian Price scam.
As there are so many variables and my opinion on it in principle is fairly sketchy in the first place I can't really give a yay or nay conclusively.
All I can say is this. I (personally) have done so before, and I (personally) would not do so again.
All I can say is this. I (personally) have done so before, and I (personally) would not do so again.
I generally tend to go after any girl (even in a bar/club/pub) as if I am going to go into a relationship with them and tend to be somewhat disappointed if it ends up as a one night stand. So in my opinion, no it is not okay ever.
Lying to get laid is just lame. I can understand what's called "validation" in which you talk yourself up and say impressive things about yourself whilst exaggerating a bit, not that i particularly like even that. Lying completely about yourself in order to get into someone's pants is wrong and sleazy. Tbh, its okay for a one night stand but still, if someone was to keep lying to everyone they wanted to get with then what happens when they want to get into an actual relationship with someone, how else would they know how to get with that person?
Does "I can hip thrust faster than the roadrunner on crack" count as a "lie"?
Also, no. I wouldn't lie to someone just to have a one-night stand or sex in a relationship. I'll be blunt about my reasons, sometimes they may not like those reasons or sometimes they will, but that's another bridge to burn entirely.
Infact, the illegalization of prostitution primarily roots itself in Western/Judeo-Christian mindsets, from Roman Catholic controlled Europe, to Victorian England, to the Western world today. Eastern Europe tends to have a more liberal mindset when it comes to sex and it's implications, for both pornography and prostitution.
Also, no. I wouldn't lie to someone just to have a one-night stand or sex in a relationship. I'll be blunt about my reasons, sometimes they may not like those reasons or sometimes they will, but that's another bridge to burn entirely.
Prostitution is not illegal everywhere you go, mind you. Nor is it as bad as it can be everywhere you go, mind you.Daystar Clarion said:
Infact, the illegalization of prostitution primarily roots itself in Western/Judeo-Christian mindsets, from Roman Catholic controlled Europe, to Victorian England, to the Western world today. Eastern Europe tends to have a more liberal mindset when it comes to sex and it's implications, for both pornography and prostitution.
Everyone lies in some fashion or another, don't kid yourself. While your first statement is fine on it's own (save maybe the STD thing), your second statement is one of pure hypocrisy by merit of you being a fallible human being.Fleeker said:
No. Even if it's a one-night stand, the other person deserves to have some truths from the person they're sleeping with. Are they clean and if it's only as a one-night thing, for example. I'm not saying you need to tell them EVERYTHING, but don't go telling them what they want to hear for a quickie, then dump them the next day.
Social interaction is, for lack of a better word, a game. And in that game we all have our cards to play. Lying is one such card and it is both commonly used and surprisingly effective, at least when we tell a lie the other party wants to believe. Is it wrong to lie in order to get what you want? Probably. But we all lie in order to get what we want. It is bad enough that people are finely tuned to detect lying.
Would I lie to get laid? No. But then I wouldn't really wag a finger if I saw it happen simply because said finger would quickly tire since lying for sex more or less defines male-female interaction for a decade or so.
Would I lie to get laid? No. But then I wouldn't really wag a finger if I saw it happen simply because said finger would quickly tire since lying for sex more or less defines male-female interaction for a decade or so.
For shit and giggles i actually voted "What does "laid" mean?" xD
Seriously though, lying is kinda stupid for that Reason. I mean yeah it might get you some for one night, but what if you run into them again, or it becomes a bit more uh..frequent? Or even something permanent?! Yeah that would kinda get nasty quick if you lied to just get them into bed in the first place.
The whole terminology is bollocks anyway and its just about political correctness, unnecessarily confusing.
Seriously though, lying is kinda stupid for that Reason. I mean yeah it might get you some for one night, but what if you run into them again, or it becomes a bit more uh..frequent? Or even something permanent?! Yeah that would kinda get nasty quick if you lied to just get them into bed in the first place.
Just for the record there, Men in female clothes are generally refered to as transsexuals, or crossdressers specifically. Transgenders are usually the "in-between" People or those that have gone from Male to Female or vice versa.GreatTeacherCAW said:
The whole terminology is bollocks anyway and its just about political correctness, unnecessarily confusing.