Poll: Lying to get laid is OK?

[ascorbius]

Here's a way to look at it.
Sex is a consensual act between adults.
Lying to get that consent means that consent was obtained illegitimately and may not have been given otherwise.
Obtaining something illegitimately is theft.
Theft is taking something without consent.
Sex without consent is rape.

So logically...

OK, I'm being an asshole, there are all kinds of lies, but you can see the dodgey ground this could be?

If you don't care enough about the person to tell them the truth, then why do you want to have sex with them? Just for self gratification?

 

[spartan231490]

It depends on the lie. In general, yeah. Everyone lies to get laid at some point. "Honey, does this dress make me look fat?" However, it is not ok to lie to someone you care about, about anything important, so it's a no go for someone you're pursuing a relationship with. I have no problem with it for a one night stand though, unless you lie about STDs.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Everyone lies for sex. The difference is between lying to deceive and lying to please.

Former, No. Latter, Maybe.

What about lying to protect your secret identity? I'm speaking James Bond and such.
Does that make them filthy perverts?

James Bond IS a filthy pervert. Pretty obvious really.

 

[BringBackBuck]

Err, isn't that technically rape by

No of course it's not, lying to get laid is such a douchebag move.

Did you actually think this through at all. Everyone lies, particularly in the early stages of a relationship:
When asked the question "Do you like my hair?" almost any man will answer: "Yes you look beautiful not "No it looks fucking awful". Particularly a man who is trying to get laid.

Pro-tip: When a woman asks "What are you thinking?" Lie to her. Seriously. It's just easier that way.

Lying is part of the social contract. It is necessary to maintain human relationships.

Yes. yes I did think it through. You may have needed to lie in your relationship but I didn't. Me and my girlfriend are honest with each other. If I get say a haircut and she doesn't like it she tells me. If She's wearing something I don't like I'll tell her, honesty in a relationship is an important thing and in the long run it's better to be honest.

Really? You have never lied to your partner about anything? Never said you would put down a controller in 5 minutes and actually played a game for another 20 minutes? Never agreed with your girlfriend to avoid an argument?

You turn up to the restaurant 5 minutes late and your girlfriend is sitting there with her friends and says "what kept you" do you answer: "I was about to leave, but then I had to take a shit, and not just a quick dump, but it took ages because I really haven't been getting enough fibre in my diet recently"

You're taking this very literally...the response would have been: I really had to use the bathroom. : / If that's how you would respond to that situation, I can actually see why -you- would need to lie.

You would tell a lie by ommission then? Just kidding. I was just making the point that lying to avoid confrontations, awkwardness, or to make people generally feel better about themselves are good reasons to lie, and are a necessary social convention. It is polite to lie about certain things (such as certain bodily functions). Anyone who says they never lie is most likely ignoring all of the societally accepted lies they tell every day, or is just a liar.

 

[cridia]

Meh, why not. I would probably never do it due to a variety of reasons (indoctrinated that way and too much of a wuss not to get my lies exposed), but if someone is skilled enough at telling lies to get someone to sleep with him, let him.

Besides, we all tell lies anyway, whether we want to or not. There are times when we simply adjust to the situation and tell something that isn't true. Telling the boss you are happy with your job, while you want to strangle him with his necktie and drown him using the coffee machine, telling your girlfriend you loved going shopping with her even though it was the single most boring thing you had ever experienced, telling your kid Santa exists.

On top of that, lying is a skill that is difficult to master. Too little, and you would have been better of telling the truth anyway, too much and you will be exposed, even ridiculed. So, I would say that there is enough risk involved if it backfires anyway.

 

[Fiox]

Depends on what lie, why the lie happened in the first place, the motive and the outcome.

A personal example from a few years back would be the game 'never have I ever' or whatever odd variant we were playing, except everyone had to answer verbally. Of course sex comes up and to not look like the odd one out or feel awkward I clearly lied increasing my sex count to one. 3 months later I have NSA sex with one of the others who was there and yeah, that's it.

Frankly the only reason for a lie should be social lubrication and not trying to gain some sort of upper hand. (Also how do you lie your way into sex?)

 

[iseko]

I seem to be missing the choice: yes. No if and's or but's. Just plain yes

 

[Zenn3k]

It would be very stupid to lie to someone you like, because once they find out you are lying...you probably just lost them forever.

You wanna lie about being a baseball playing on the local Triple-AA Baseball team to get that cute drunk girl to take an interest in you? Go for it. She's probably lying about something as well...like how many kids she has.

My advice, if you lie to get laid, don't call them back.

 

[Latinidiot]

I don't know, lying in general is annoying.

 

[cydvis]

Lying to get what you want is totally fine (If it's a one night stand, someone you like or whatever).

Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter 'cause no one listen.


edit: "lying" doesn't mean "made some stupid stuff anyone with a brain will see" of course.

 

[rutger5000]

Like almost all moral questions it deserves to be looked at case by case, but in general.
Define lying, really we all lie constantly. We can hardly help it to twist the truth slightly in our favor. So as stated above it is about the degree of the lie. Imagine walking up to a very cute but incredibly stupid brunnete. If you say something like: "A madmen is holding my parents and siblings hostage and says he'll kill them all unless you'll have sex with me." (As I stated she is incredibly stupid) would be very bad.
On the other hands there are plenty of small white lies you just tell to keep a nice flow in the conversation. She's doing the same.

 

[electric_warrior]

Lying to trick a drunken floozy in a bar- fine
Lying to trick someone who actually cares about you- not fine
Lying about your job, hobbies, skills- fine
Lying about having a spouse or an STD- not fine

 

[Realitycrash]

Lying to get laid proves you have no skills in getting a man/woman to be attracted to you. I put no moral judgement on it, I just think it's lame.
No one with real game needs to lie.

 

[Roxor]

Just because you have the ability to do something, doesn't mean you should do it.

That's a lesson the folks at Aperture Science didn't learn, and look where it got them: dead at the hands of a mad computer.

 

[Fleeker]

If you need to lie to get laid you have no integrity and not game and you deserve to get an STD and beaten up by her boyfriend.

If you need to lie in general you have no character, no accountability and clearly are doing the wrong things.

I life my life by the following don't do anything I won't admit to.

 

[BabySinclair]

Well everyone lies on some level through changing some minor traits (lipstick, cologne, make-up, high heels...), tweaking facts without lying directly, or by failing to mention something (lie of omission) so I can't hold that against someone.

Now more egregious lies, STDs, marriage, and shit like this however, I can hold against people but then again I don't like douchebags and am of the opinion that if you want something, you need to earn it without cheating.

 

[ghostalker.cepo]

I life my life by the following don't do anything I won't admit to.

As do I, thing is I have very little shame, and to be frank, people let you get away with all kinds if things if you're not ashamed them.

 

[Klarinette]

No. (Having been on the receiving end of a lie) Lying for the sole purpose of having sex makes you a douchebag and a creep.

 

[EeveeElectro]

You can... if you want to be known as "that dickead."
It's even funnier if you fancy one of her friends and want to go somewhere with her, we'll tell our friends how much of a dick certain men are and they'll spread it around and girls will start avoiding you.
Of course it depends on what sort of lie. Something silly like I flew to the moon on a pink octopus might make me laugh. Lying about anything important is a massive no-no.

 

[Zing]

Sure why not.

you mean like saying "I love you"

well then call me a lier

this is how I meant lying btw.

although I see no problem with telling a girl you're a cosmonaut...if it works then you deserve it!