Poll: Lying to get laid is OK?
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If a woman is willing to do a one night stand, she's going to choose someone who she finds interesting. Most people are tedious and boring and unless you are either incredibly attractive, incredibly charming or your interests/personalities match, you have to impress her some other way. You're both after a night of sex with no strings attached, so some deception or exaggeration on your part to seem more interesting in her eyes is fine, you have to do something that puts you ahead of the others competing for her attention. It's a mating dance, and as ever in mating dances the male who is most impressive is who the female chooses.LordSphinx said:
As has been said before in this thread, lying about being single when you're not = bad, and omitting that you have an STD or lying that you don't when you do = bad, both of those will come back to haunt you, but exaggerating how interesting you are for the sake of sticking your penis into someone who wants a penis put in them for that one night? What's the big deal? If it's not yours, it WILL be some other guy's, so why not? She's never going to see you again.
I will add, that I'm not a one night stand kinda guy, they're shallow and cheap and have no meaning for me, but that doesn't make what I said any less true.
I lie about my name when i'm out looking for a one night stand. I'd rather not have the person be able to track me later. I get really paranoid when a stranger has my name.
Here's a way to look at it.
Sex is a consensual act between adults.
Lying to get that consent means that consent was obtained illegitimately and may not have been given otherwise.
Obtaining something illegitimately is theft.
Theft is taking something without consent.
Sex without consent is rape.
So logically...
OK, I'm being an asshole, there are all kinds of lies, but you can see the dodgey ground this could be?
If you don't care enough about the person to tell them the truth, then why do you want to have sex with them? Just for self gratification?
Sex is a consensual act between adults.
Lying to get that consent means that consent was obtained illegitimately and may not have been given otherwise.
Obtaining something illegitimately is theft.
Theft is taking something without consent.
Sex without consent is rape.
So logically...
OK, I'm being an asshole, there are all kinds of lies, but you can see the dodgey ground this could be?
If you don't care enough about the person to tell them the truth, then why do you want to have sex with them? Just for self gratification?
It depends on the lie. In general, yeah. Everyone lies to get laid at some point. "Honey, does this dress make me look fat?" However, it is not ok to lie to someone you care about, about anything important, so it's a no go for someone you're pursuing a relationship with. I have no problem with it for a one night stand though, unless you lie about STDs.
You would tell a lie by ommission then? Just kidding. I was just making the point that lying to avoid confrontations, awkwardness, or to make people generally feel better about themselves are good reasons to lie, and are a necessary social convention. It is polite to lie about certain things (such as certain bodily functions). Anyone who says they never lie is most likely ignoring all of the societally accepted lies they tell every day, or is just a liar.GothmogII said:
Meh, why not. I would probably never do it due to a variety of reasons (indoctrinated that way and too much of a wuss not to get my lies exposed), but if someone is skilled enough at telling lies to get someone to sleep with him, let him.
Besides, we all tell lies anyway, whether we want to or not. There are times when we simply adjust to the situation and tell something that isn't true. Telling the boss you are happy with your job, while you want to strangle him with his necktie and drown him using the coffee machine, telling your girlfriend you loved going shopping with her even though it was the single most boring thing you had ever experienced, telling your kid Santa exists.
On top of that, lying is a skill that is difficult to master. Too little, and you would have been better of telling the truth anyway, too much and you will be exposed, even ridiculed. So, I would say that there is enough risk involved if it backfires anyway.
Besides, we all tell lies anyway, whether we want to or not. There are times when we simply adjust to the situation and tell something that isn't true. Telling the boss you are happy with your job, while you want to strangle him with his necktie and drown him using the coffee machine, telling your girlfriend you loved going shopping with her even though it was the single most boring thing you had ever experienced, telling your kid Santa exists.
On top of that, lying is a skill that is difficult to master. Too little, and you would have been better of telling the truth anyway, too much and you will be exposed, even ridiculed. So, I would say that there is enough risk involved if it backfires anyway.
Depends on what lie, why the lie happened in the first place, the motive and the outcome.
A personal example from a few years back would be the game 'never have I ever' or whatever odd variant we were playing, except everyone had to answer verbally. Of course sex comes up and to not look like the odd one out or feel awkward I clearly lied increasing my sex count to one. 3 months later I have NSA sex with one of the others who was there and yeah, that's it.
Frankly the only reason for a lie should be social lubrication and not trying to gain some sort of upper hand. (Also how do you lie your way into sex?)
A personal example from a few years back would be the game 'never have I ever' or whatever odd variant we were playing, except everyone had to answer verbally. Of course sex comes up and to not look like the odd one out or feel awkward I clearly lied increasing my sex count to one. 3 months later I have NSA sex with one of the others who was there and yeah, that's it.
Frankly the only reason for a lie should be social lubrication and not trying to gain some sort of upper hand. (Also how do you lie your way into sex?)
It would be very stupid to lie to someone you like, because once they find out you are lying...you probably just lost them forever.
You wanna lie about being a baseball playing on the local Triple-AA Baseball team to get that cute drunk girl to take an interest in you? Go for it. She's probably lying about something as well...like how many kids she has.
My advice, if you lie to get laid, don't call them back.
You wanna lie about being a baseball playing on the local Triple-AA Baseball team to get that cute drunk girl to take an interest in you? Go for it. She's probably lying about something as well...like how many kids she has.
My advice, if you lie to get laid, don't call them back.
