Poll: Old School rap or New School?
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Despite me being only 24, I much prefer the older stuff compared to today's constant "club bangers". Anything past 2004 (around the time "Get Low" - by Lil' Jon ft. Ying Yang Twins dropped) I get wary of.
And I'll definitely take "The Message" over any scatterbrained gibberish Lil' Wayne says any day.
And I'll definitely take "The Message" over any scatterbrained gibberish Lil' Wayne says any day.
No thanks, I was actually waiting to see if anyone would try to change my opinion on rap, but instead every just seems to want to insult me interestingNovs said:
Try Aesop Rock. A lot of his older stuff (before the album "Bazooka Tooth") had a jazzy vibe to it.TehCookie said:
His rhyme style is very unconventional, replete with obscure movie, cartoon, video game, and Japanime references. But that's what makes him one of the best rappers in the underground scene (subjective, I know; just try to roll with it).
I listen to Doseone who is so new school that he has an honorary doctorate from the university that will be named after him in 20 years.
I pick "Old School" but what I really like isn't so much the Golden Age of Hip Hop (early to mid 80's) as it is 1988 (NWA debut) until about 1998. Rap between those years was amazing.
The Notorious B.I.G
The Wu Tang Clan
Big L
NWA
Nas
Outkast
2pac
Todays rap CAN be good, but it isn't as consistently good as it was during that time period.
The Notorious B.I.G
The Wu Tang Clan
Big L
NWA
Nas
Outkast
2pac
Todays rap CAN be good, but it isn't as consistently good as it was during that time period.
He's actually somewhat right. Just like you made the assumption that rap is just, in your own words:Kipohippo said:
That's just like saying all FPS' are about space Marines. Or that all fighting games area bout randomly smashing as many buttons as fast as you can or memorizing long button combinations.Kipohippo said:
You may hear stuff like that all the time because that's what sells, and that's what the majority wants. Keep in mind that most people don't look past the radio. Furthermore, unlike gamers who are very quick to tell someone what they want in a game, music fans - especially those who like rap - are very hesitant to say what they want in rap music, the general consensus being better lyrics (even if they're about nothing), better personas with better stage names, better production, better sounds... the list goes on. Actually speaking about it will get you, at best, some funny looks and at worst, possibly killed.
If I may test a theory, do you listen to Eminem? Or Paul Wall?
There's good stuff in both. Namely, MF Doom, Madlib, Odd Future, Madvillian, Aesop Rock, Dilated Peoples, Ghostface Killah's newest album for new school and Wu-Tang, A Tribe Called Quest, Jurassic 5, Method Man for old school.
Though I have to admit I can't stand 2pac and I only like Biggie's freestyles.
Though I have to admit I can't stand 2pac and I only like Biggie's freestyles.
I don't think s/he's insulting you. If s/he did, I'm sure they would've come up with something more scathing than that.artanis_neravar said:
And maybe s/he felt your comment had no real relevance and simply wanted you to leave? Sure, it probably could've been better phrased, but come on. That's jumping to conclusions, don';t you think?
You're really willing to take the time to explore and expand? Try some of the following; they're some of my favorite rappers/producers:
Rjd2 (producer)
Aesop Rock
Atmosphere
The Wu-Tang Clan
Mr. Lif
El-P (I don't like him too much, but you might)
Sage Francis
Criss Chords (Nerdcore rapper, ever heard someone rap about Dr. Robotnik or cheat codes?)
Random
Living Legends
MF Doom
Canibus (be careful with this one, he drops a lot of science and he's also very vulgar)
Eminem (don't go past Encore, he fell off that album)
Busta Rhymes (don't go past Genesis, another one that fell off after a point)
Ludacris
That's all I can think of off-hand. There's always the older stuff, again, if you really wanna expand your horizons, so to speak.
Eh, not quite, but I'm glad I have to bust out a certain observation...Kipohippo said:
Too cookie-cutter huh? You'd probably hate Ludacris then...
Try this song here [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i3wE2M1BBI]. It's one of his (or their) earliest works, back when he was more known for battle-rapping. Now he's something akin to "emo-rap" without being all depressed and whatnot. His rhymes are more... down-to-earth, for lack of a better term.
Here are some of his other songs from other albums/time periods.
*This song is based on an actual event.
Have fun. Or try to.
Bazooka Tooth is probably his worst album, especially with the fucking terrible El-P "featurettes". Still, it's not uncommon (the whole "nerd" fanbase references), especially nowadays, to have all that crap.SageRuffin said:
Deltron 30-30, most notably Deltron Zee, i.e. Del Tha Funky Funky Sheet/Funky Homosapien, Sir Diesel or whatever the fuck he wants to call himself, is (or are) well known for it, and their music is fantastic.
MF Doom is known for it aswell, but only because that's all he can fucking do. Release 10 songs about comic books, constantly resample them and re-release them, get rich and forget about the people who got you to where you are = MF Doom.
It's cool how it's impossible to talk about underground hip hop/rap - especially with the whole "gaming forum" in mind - without Atmosphere, MF Doom, Aesop Rock or Deltron 30-30 popping up. I know Doom and Deltron 3030 have somewhat similar lyrical styles, but where do Atmosphere and Aesop Rock fit in? Besides them both being white and good at what they do (though i don't really like Atmosphere)...
Oh man, 2004 is old school?
Both old school and new school can be great.
The Kendrick Lamar one is the best.
My old school list isn't too great, but it gets the point across. It's really hard to compare because both have good songs and bad songs.
Of course, I'll have to say "new school," because Kendrick Lamar is the best rapper out there.
Both old school and new school can be great.
The Kendrick Lamar one is the best.
My old school list isn't too great, but it gets the point across. It's really hard to compare because both have good songs and bad songs.
Of course, I'll have to say "new school," because Kendrick Lamar is the best rapper out there.
Tupac, Biggie, NWA, Ice Cube, Lonely Island, Beastie Boys? WTF?
All of them are WHACK compared to this new rapper commin' up in the industry!
All of them are WHACK compared to this new rapper commin' up in the industry!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1tufujnbzU[/youtube]
Old school all the way. I think that the genre has lost a lot of what formed it to begin with. Of course, at the same time, new school doesn't have Devastatin' Dave.