That is your subjective opinion. Islam isn't just a religion, however; it is a whole way of life with guidelines for everything, from what goes on in the washroom to what goes on in the government.Dazza5897922 said:
Poll: Peace In The Middle East
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And there are dozen more of the Israeli's doing the right thing. Again; this falls under the catagory of judging a country, people or belief system by it's worst members. You're forgetting that Israel was created out of the holocaust, so they have the fear of anihilation no other culture can comprehend, surronded by nations that attacked them before their country even existed. I'm not claiming they're a white night in all of this, but it's not as simple as "Israel bad, Palistine good." The most vocal anti-Israeli forces want to kill every last man, woman and child in Israel, so it's hard to have sympathy for the cause when it's most visible actions are evil. And the Israeli reaction only escalates the situation.Akai Shizuku said:
Bottom line; both countries have the right to exist and both cultures are being retarded about the whole situation.
The fuck is this thread? You're really asking a group of gamers, who will have almost certainly played CoD4 and maybe ArmA, if there's going to peace in the middle-east?
YOU FUCKING JOKING???
No-one here knows anything about that god-forsaken region, and they don't want to know. We're all products of a spoilt western culture and we fucking LIKE IT that way. No one cares about the conflicts overseas, what people care about is fucking money and fucking family.
If you feel this is untrue however, PROVE ME WRONG. Simply send me a link to pictures of you doing volunteer work in a third world country, and maybe I'll retract my previous statement that all gamers, especially me, are fucking fat western cocksuckers who have never had a moment of hunger, actual real TRUE starvation, in their entire cushy lives.
You all know nothing. Even Socrates knew this, and he's fucking DEAD.
YOU FUCKING JOKING???
No-one here knows anything about that god-forsaken region, and they don't want to know. We're all products of a spoilt western culture and we fucking LIKE IT that way. No one cares about the conflicts overseas, what people care about is fucking money and fucking family.
If you feel this is untrue however, PROVE ME WRONG. Simply send me a link to pictures of you doing volunteer work in a third world country, and maybe I'll retract my previous statement that all gamers, especially me, are fucking fat western cocksuckers who have never had a moment of hunger, actual real TRUE starvation, in their entire cushy lives.
You all know nothing. Even Socrates knew this, and he's fucking DEAD.
Jews take over Canaan, Philistines try and kill the Jews, Egyptians invade, Babylonians invade half the middle east, then the persians, then the romans, the egyptians, the british and finally the American wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Notice a pattern here? The middle east always has been, and always will be (bar a miraculous streak of sanity in the latest generation) a volatile region.
http://www.piercemattiepublicrelations.com/Skittles_twitter.jpgUtopiaV1 said:
That was quite profound, and it has earned you a hi-five and a bag of Skittles.
Oh really. So all that time I spent studying the Arab/Israeli conflict means nothing since I'm not from a third-world country. Well following that logic I don't have the right to say murder isn't wrong because I haven't tried death.UtopiaV1 said:
And you know, it's not like there's poverty in the first-world, not like there are people who've had sucky lives. But hey, what do we know? You obviously know everything about the West to make such a bold statement. I mean, we all know nothing, but you know everything to be able to classify all of us. And I highly doubt Socrates personally said the users on the escapist know nothing...
No he is not a racist.The infamous SCAMola said:
You are very much intiteled to hate muslims, islamist or what ever you want to call them, without being a racist, because... Its a religion, not a race...
I somewhat agree with him.
Without holocaust, the UN wouldnt have given Israel to the jews, and would insted help affected muslims, there by maybe creating an understanding between the middle east, and the western world.
First thing the Palestinians need to realise is that violence will do nothing but propetuate the cycle of violence. Israel, despite all their detractors say about them, would never try and commit genocide and the international community would never allow it, and likewise the combined might of the Arab armies is not enough to defeat Israel, and again the international community would step in and put a stop to it.Akai Shizuku said:
All terrorist attacks do is push the Israeli's to crack down on the Palestinians. All that does is increase resentment and suffering and allows terrorist masterminds to take the desperate and the angry and turn them into living weapons. As long as both sides continue this that conflict can't end. The Israeli's are scared of the Palestinians and the Palestinians are scared of the Israeli's. They chose to deal with it through violence.
Of course, not all follow this example; Fatah (not sure about the spelling, but they're Hamas' rivals) can get along peacefully with Israel, and there are plenty of Israeli's who help the Palestinians. This is proof enough that both sides can get along.
What the Palestinians need to do is abandon violent tactics altogether. All they do is kill innocents in Israel and reduce international support for Palestine; if you follow this conflict all the way back to the start it was the Arab nations that started the conflict (how much of this was the fault of the Palestinians and how much of it was just the fault of the Hitler-supporting leader will never be known), so Israel has been striking back.
Look at Ghandi's approach; by being non-violent he was able to make the British soliders who attack the protestors look horrible and turn the British public opinion against them. Likewise if the Palestinians don't strike back at all when Israeli forces strike them, then public opinion in both Israel and the international community will turn against the Israeli government.
The best thing the Israeli government can do to start the peace process up is to tear down the wall. I can understand the thought behind it; Palestinian terrorists kill their civillians, so it's best if they can't get into Israel. But all it does is aid in the dehumanisation that all words carry out. Before they might not have gotten along, but Israeli's and Palestinians could at the very least see each other's faces and could think of each others as human beings. Now they don't have that human connection, which makes acts of violence easier to carry out.
Once that is done the Israeli government needs to stop building settlements and start pulling out of what is currently Palestinian terroritory. Sharon started this process and look at how Israeli's reacted to him. But at the very least it was nesecarry to get the peace process moving again. After that; the Israeli PM has to make sure he's well protected from his own citizens; The two most promiment figures in my mind who tried to make peace were an Egyptian President and an Israeli Prime Minister. Both were killed by their own countrymen.
After that it would be important for both sides to focus on what makes them similar instead of what makes them different, find common ground and build on that. If the non-violence lasts for this long the Israeli's can start to pull back and give the Palestinians more room.
That's a start, and it would take years for all of that to happen, so I'll leave the borring, country building process to the politicions.
Wrong. The League of Nations started planning on the creation of a Jewish state back in 1923. Even without the Holocaust it would have eventually happened.Gimmi. A. Burger said:
And the Middle East hasn't known peace in a long time. There are centuries old conflicts there, and if you want to compare the situation I would say most of the Middle East today is where Europe was in the Dark Ages. They might come out of it and into that region's renesonce, or they might end up killing each other. It's naive to think that without Israel that things would be magically better.
Religious fanatasism runs rampant in this area of the world, and until that is somewhat quelled or compromised that is, at this time, impossible. I'm sorry, but I'm not even debating this with anyone, I've been there, Lived there, talked with the people there. It's not happening.
I have no solution to this problem and have had enough sleepless nights pondering it myself, so it's just an issue I'm having my say and moving on from, because it's too big for one small mind.
I have no solution to this problem and have had enough sleepless nights pondering it myself, so it's just an issue I'm having my say and moving on from, because it's too big for one small mind.
You think Islam is the problem with the world? Wow, that's pretty narrow minded of you. Fundamentalist exist in every monotheistic religion and are all bat-shit crazy. The spread of technology and industrialization will eventually even out any and all major conflicts out that way.
You have that large amount of uneducated, religious nuts all your going to get is death and war.
I am in favor of just Razing the whole place, Israeli to just turn the sand to glass and scorch the earth there be ride of it all and lets all learn something, religions equal war, death and a wast of resources.
I am in favor of just Razing the whole place, Israeli to just turn the sand to glass and scorch the earth there be ride of it all and lets all learn something, religions equal war, death and a wast of resources.
Is this enough proofUtopiaV1 said:
LIST OF RELIEF ORGANIZATIONS
Action Against Hunger (AAH)
http://www.aah-usa.org/
Develops and runs emergency programs in nutrition, health, water and food security for countries in need. Also provides disaster preparedness programs with the goal of anticipating and preventing humanitarian crises.
CARE
http://www.careusa.org/
CARE is one of the world's largest private international humanitarian organizations, committed to helping families in poor communities improve their lives and achieve lasting victories over poverty. Founded in 1945 to provide relief to survivors of World War II, CARE quickly became a trusted vehicle for the compassion and generosity of millions.
Caritas Internationalis
http://www.caritas.org/
Caritas Internationalis is a confederation of 162 Catholic relief, development and social service organisations working to build a better world, especially for the poor and oppressed, in over 200 countries and territories.
Catholic Relief Services (CRS - USCC)
http://www.crs.org/
Catholic Relief Services was founded in 1943 by the Catholic Bishops of the United States to assist the poor and disadvantaged outside the country. Working through local offices and an extensive network of partners, CRS operates on 5 continents and in over 90 countries. They aid the poor by first providing direct assistance where needed, then encouraging these people to help with their own development. Together, this fosters secure, productive, just communities that enable people to realize their potential.
Doctors Without Borders
http://www.dwb.org/
Doctors Without Borders delivers medical help to populations endangered by war, civil strife, epidemics or natural disasters. Each year over 2,000 volunteer doctors representing 45 nationalities work worldwide in front-line hospitals, refugee camps, disaster sites, towns and villages providing primary health care, performing surgery, vaccinating children, operating emergency nutrition and sanitation programs and training local medical staff.
Emergency Nutrition Network (ENN)
http://www.ennonline.net/
Independently funded organization based in Dublin, Ireland UK. Works to improve the effectiveness of emergency food and nutrition interventions by providing a means of information exchange between field staff, humanitarian institutions, academics and researchers.
Food For The Hungry International (FHI)
http://www.fh.org/
Food For The Hungry is an international relief and development organization of Christian motivation, committed to working with poor people to overcome hunger and poverty through integrated self-development and relief programs.
Hunger Plus, Inc.
http://www.hungerplus.org/
Not-for-profit relief agency that provides food and related supplies for emergency use. Partners with individuals, NGOs, government agencies, church and civic groups. Projects in self sufficiency focus on food preservation, agriculture, water, health, education, housing and technology.
Interaction
http://www.interaction.org/
InterAction is a coalition of over 150 US-based non-profit organizations which are usually the first to respond to a crisis. InterAction coordinates and promotes relief aid programs. With more than 160 members operating in every developing country, they work to overcome poverty, exclusion and suffering by advancing social justice and basic dignity for all.
International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC)
http://www.icrc.org/eng
The ICRC, independent of all governments and international organizations, endeavors to promote international humanitarian law and the fundamental human values underlying that law. The ICRC was founded by Geneva citizens in 1863 and has its headquarters in Geneva.
International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC)
http://www.ifrc.org/
The IFRC is one part of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement, which comprises National Red Cross or Red Crescent Societies, the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (the Federation), and the ICRC. The IFRC is the permanent liaison body of the National Societies and acts as their representative internationally. It organizes and coordinates international disaster response in support of the actions of the affected National Societies, encourages the creation of new National Societies and assists them in developing their structures and programs. The IFRC Secretariat in Geneva is staffed by more than 245 people of some 30 different nationalities.
International Organization for Migration (IOM)
http://www.iom.int/
The IOM is committed to the principle that humane and orderly migration benefits migrants and society. As an intergovernmental body, IOM acts with its partners in the international community to: Assist in meeting the operational challenges of migration; Advance understanding of migration issues; Encourage social and economic development through migration; Uphold the human dignity and well-being of migrants.
International Rescue Committee (IRC)
http://www.theirc.org/
Founded in 1933, the International Rescue Committee is the voluntary organization involved in resettlement assistance, global emergency relief, rehabilitation, and advocacy for refugees. The IRC delivers lifesaving aid in emergencies, rebuilds shattered communities, cares for war-traumatized children, rehabilitates health care, water and sanitation systems, reunites separated families, restores lost livelihoods, establishes schools, trains teachers, strengthens the capacity of local organizations and supports civil society and good-governance initiatives. For refugees afforded sanctuary in the United States, IRC offices across the country provide a range of assistance aimed at helping new arrivals get settled, adjust and acquire the skills to become self-sufficient. Committed to restoring dignity and self-reliance, the IRC is a global symbol of hope and renewal for those who have taken flight in search of freedom.
Lutheran World Federation
http://www.lutheranworld.org/
Specializing in emergency relief linked to disaster preparedness (risk management) and sustainable development.
Mennonite Central Committee (MCC)
http://www.mennonitecc.ca/
Relief and development arm of the North American Mennonite and Brethren in Christ churches. MCC sends people, food and material goods to communities recovering from war and natural disasters.
Mercy Corps (MC)
http://www.mercycorps.org/
Nonprofit organization providing emergency relief and supporting development programs in agriculture, economic development, health, housing and infrastructure, and strengthening local organizations.
Overseas Development Institute (ODI)
http://www.odi.org.uk/
Independent think-tank on international development and humanitarian issues.
Oxfam
http://www.oxfam.org/
Oxfam is a development and relief agency working to end poverty. Oxfam International is a confederation of 12 organizations working together with over 3,000 partners in more than 100 countries to find lasting solutions to poverty, suffering and injustice.
Refugees International
http://www.refintl.org/
Refugees International generates lifesaving humanitarian assistance and protection for displaced people around the world and works to end the conditions that create displacement. Refugees International advocates for refugees through diplomacy and the press.
Relief International
http://www.ri.org/
Founded in 1990, Relief International provides emergency, rehabilitation and development services that empower beneficiaries in the process. RI?s programs include health, shelter construction, education, community development, agriculture, food, income-generation, and conflict resolution.
Save the Children
http://www.savethechildren.org/
Save the Children is the leading independent organization creating real and lasting change for children in need in the United States and around the world. It is a member of the International Save the Children Alliance, comprising 27 national Save the Children organizations working in more than 100 countries to ensure the well-being of children. Save the Children responds to any emergency that puts at great risk the survival, protection, and well-being of significant numbers of children, where addressing the needs and well-being of those children is beyond the indigenous coping capacity, and where Save the Children is able to mobilize the financial and human resources to take urgent action on their behalf.
The Office of U.S. Foreign Disaster Assistance (OFDA)
http://www.usaid.gov/our_work/humanitarian_assistance/disaster_assistance/
OFDA is the office within USAID responsible for providing non-food humanitarian assistance in response to international crises and disasters. Responsible for facilitating and coordinating U.S. Government emergency assistance overseas and to provide humanitarian assistance to save lives, alleviate human suffering, and reduce the social and economic impact of natural and man-made disasters worldwide.
United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF)
http://www.unicef.org/
While working to ensure the survival, protection and development of children and advocating a high priority for them in the allocation of resources at all times, UNICEF continues to give relief and rehabilitation assistance in emergencies. The agency was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1965.
United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR)
http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/home
The UNHCR provides protection and assistance to the world's refugees. Today, the UNHCR is one of the world's principal humanitarian agencies, with headquarters in Geneva, and offices in some 115 countries. More than 80 percent of UNHCR's 5,000-member staff work in the field, often in isolated, dangerous and difficult conditions. The UNHCR has twice been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for its work.
United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA)
http://ochaonline.un.org/
OCHA is mandated to mobilize and coordinate the collective efforts of the international community, in particular those of the UN system, to meet in a coherent and timely manner the needs of those exposed to human suffering and material destruction in disasters and emergencies.
US Committee for Refugees (USCR)
http://www.refugees.org/
Provides aid and resources for refugees worldwide..
World Vision International
http://www.worldvision.org/
World Vision is a Christian relief and development organization dedicated to helping children and their communities worldwide reach their full potential by tackling the causes of poverty.
Action Against Hunger (AAH)
http://www.aah-usa.org/
Develops and runs emergency programs in nutrition, health, water and food security for countries in need. Also provides disaster preparedness programs with the goal of anticipating and preventing humanitarian crises.
CARE
http://www.careusa.org/
CARE is one of the world's largest private international humanitarian organizations, committed to helping families in poor communities improve their lives and achieve lasting victories over poverty. Founded in 1945 to provide relief to survivors of World War II, CARE quickly became a trusted vehicle for the compassion and generosity of millions.
Caritas Internationalis
http://www.caritas.org/
Caritas Internationalis is a confederation of 162 Catholic relief, development and social service organisations working to build a better world, especially for the poor and oppressed, in over 200 countries and territories.
Catholic Relief Services (CRS - USCC)
http://www.crs.org/
Catholic Relief Services was founded in 1943 by the Catholic Bishops of the United States to assist the poor and disadvantaged outside the country. Working through local offices and an extensive network of partners, CRS operates on 5 continents and in over 90 countries. They aid the poor by first providing direct assistance where needed, then encouraging these people to help with their own development. Together, this fosters secure, productive, just communities that enable people to realize their potential.
Doctors Without Borders
http://www.dwb.org/
Doctors Without Borders delivers medical help to populations endangered by war, civil strife, epidemics or natural disasters. Each year over 2,000 volunteer doctors representing 45 nationalities work worldwide in front-line hospitals, refugee camps, disaster sites, towns and villages providing primary health care, performing surgery, vaccinating children, operating emergency nutrition and sanitation programs and training local medical staff.
Emergency Nutrition Network (ENN)
http://www.ennonline.net/
Independently funded organization based in Dublin, Ireland UK. Works to improve the effectiveness of emergency food and nutrition interventions by providing a means of information exchange between field staff, humanitarian institutions, academics and researchers.
Food For The Hungry International (FHI)
http://www.fh.org/
Food For The Hungry is an international relief and development organization of Christian motivation, committed to working with poor people to overcome hunger and poverty through integrated self-development and relief programs.
Hunger Plus, Inc.
http://www.hungerplus.org/
Not-for-profit relief agency that provides food and related supplies for emergency use. Partners with individuals, NGOs, government agencies, church and civic groups. Projects in self sufficiency focus on food preservation, agriculture, water, health, education, housing and technology.
Interaction
http://www.interaction.org/
InterAction is a coalition of over 150 US-based non-profit organizations which are usually the first to respond to a crisis. InterAction coordinates and promotes relief aid programs. With more than 160 members operating in every developing country, they work to overcome poverty, exclusion and suffering by advancing social justice and basic dignity for all.
International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC)
http://www.icrc.org/eng
The ICRC, independent of all governments and international organizations, endeavors to promote international humanitarian law and the fundamental human values underlying that law. The ICRC was founded by Geneva citizens in 1863 and has its headquarters in Geneva.
International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC)
http://www.ifrc.org/
The IFRC is one part of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement, which comprises National Red Cross or Red Crescent Societies, the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (the Federation), and the ICRC. The IFRC is the permanent liaison body of the National Societies and acts as their representative internationally. It organizes and coordinates international disaster response in support of the actions of the affected National Societies, encourages the creation of new National Societies and assists them in developing their structures and programs. The IFRC Secretariat in Geneva is staffed by more than 245 people of some 30 different nationalities.
International Organization for Migration (IOM)
http://www.iom.int/
The IOM is committed to the principle that humane and orderly migration benefits migrants and society. As an intergovernmental body, IOM acts with its partners in the international community to: Assist in meeting the operational challenges of migration; Advance understanding of migration issues; Encourage social and economic development through migration; Uphold the human dignity and well-being of migrants.
International Rescue Committee (IRC)
http://www.theirc.org/
Founded in 1933, the International Rescue Committee is the voluntary organization involved in resettlement assistance, global emergency relief, rehabilitation, and advocacy for refugees. The IRC delivers lifesaving aid in emergencies, rebuilds shattered communities, cares for war-traumatized children, rehabilitates health care, water and sanitation systems, reunites separated families, restores lost livelihoods, establishes schools, trains teachers, strengthens the capacity of local organizations and supports civil society and good-governance initiatives. For refugees afforded sanctuary in the United States, IRC offices across the country provide a range of assistance aimed at helping new arrivals get settled, adjust and acquire the skills to become self-sufficient. Committed to restoring dignity and self-reliance, the IRC is a global symbol of hope and renewal for those who have taken flight in search of freedom.
Lutheran World Federation
http://www.lutheranworld.org/
Specializing in emergency relief linked to disaster preparedness (risk management) and sustainable development.
Mennonite Central Committee (MCC)
http://www.mennonitecc.ca/
Relief and development arm of the North American Mennonite and Brethren in Christ churches. MCC sends people, food and material goods to communities recovering from war and natural disasters.
Mercy Corps (MC)
http://www.mercycorps.org/
Nonprofit organization providing emergency relief and supporting development programs in agriculture, economic development, health, housing and infrastructure, and strengthening local organizations.
Overseas Development Institute (ODI)
http://www.odi.org.uk/
Independent think-tank on international development and humanitarian issues.
Oxfam
http://www.oxfam.org/
Oxfam is a development and relief agency working to end poverty. Oxfam International is a confederation of 12 organizations working together with over 3,000 partners in more than 100 countries to find lasting solutions to poverty, suffering and injustice.
Refugees International
http://www.refintl.org/
Refugees International generates lifesaving humanitarian assistance and protection for displaced people around the world and works to end the conditions that create displacement. Refugees International advocates for refugees through diplomacy and the press.
Relief International
http://www.ri.org/
Founded in 1990, Relief International provides emergency, rehabilitation and development services that empower beneficiaries in the process. RI?s programs include health, shelter construction, education, community development, agriculture, food, income-generation, and conflict resolution.
Save the Children
http://www.savethechildren.org/
Save the Children is the leading independent organization creating real and lasting change for children in need in the United States and around the world. It is a member of the International Save the Children Alliance, comprising 27 national Save the Children organizations working in more than 100 countries to ensure the well-being of children. Save the Children responds to any emergency that puts at great risk the survival, protection, and well-being of significant numbers of children, where addressing the needs and well-being of those children is beyond the indigenous coping capacity, and where Save the Children is able to mobilize the financial and human resources to take urgent action on their behalf.
The Office of U.S. Foreign Disaster Assistance (OFDA)
http://www.usaid.gov/our_work/humanitarian_assistance/disaster_assistance/
OFDA is the office within USAID responsible for providing non-food humanitarian assistance in response to international crises and disasters. Responsible for facilitating and coordinating U.S. Government emergency assistance overseas and to provide humanitarian assistance to save lives, alleviate human suffering, and reduce the social and economic impact of natural and man-made disasters worldwide.
United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF)
http://www.unicef.org/
While working to ensure the survival, protection and development of children and advocating a high priority for them in the allocation of resources at all times, UNICEF continues to give relief and rehabilitation assistance in emergencies. The agency was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1965.
United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR)
http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/home
The UNHCR provides protection and assistance to the world's refugees. Today, the UNHCR is one of the world's principal humanitarian agencies, with headquarters in Geneva, and offices in some 115 countries. More than 80 percent of UNHCR's 5,000-member staff work in the field, often in isolated, dangerous and difficult conditions. The UNHCR has twice been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for its work.
United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA)
http://ochaonline.un.org/
OCHA is mandated to mobilize and coordinate the collective efforts of the international community, in particular those of the UN system, to meet in a coherent and timely manner the needs of those exposed to human suffering and material destruction in disasters and emergencies.
US Committee for Refugees (USCR)
http://www.refugees.org/
Provides aid and resources for refugees worldwide..
World Vision International
http://www.worldvision.org/
World Vision is a Christian relief and development organization dedicated to helping children and their communities worldwide reach their full potential by tackling the causes of poverty.
If that isn't enough you can go here.
http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwc.nsf/doc202?OpenForm&number=315&firstLetter=A
If the list isn't already up:
Pick filter by type and just for the hell of it go with UN and international organizations and click the letter A. There are organizations from around the entire world (yes even us swine in first world countries) made up by people from around the world. Think before you post next time.
Edit/OT: No I don't think there will be, at least not anytime soon. Maybe someday though, as for right now there is just too much fighting between all the nations in the middle east for various reasons that it just isn't possible.