Poll: Poll: BioWare or Bethesda?

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I'm a fan of both but I still chose Bioware without a second thought. Bethesda work brilliantly on a large scale, getting a good size for their sandboxes with some interesting little secrets scattered (though they could do with a few more really) but Bioware's writing and characterisation wins me over very quickly.

Also, two words Bethesda-wise. Uncanny Valley.
 

Polaris19

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Bioware.

They have been extremely good for a longtime, and I dare say they haven't yet released a game that was "bad".

Baulders Gate 2 is still one of the deepest RPG experiences available, Knights of the Old Republic is considered one of the greatest RPG's of all time by many (not all), and Mass Effect's got an incredible universe and a great story.

And maybe thats just it. When it all comes down to it, Bioware's stories just...work, for lack of a better term. Oblivion was a great game, but the story was really underdeveloped. Morrowind had a better story, but it just doesn't compare to games like Mass Effect and Baulders Gate. Fallout 3 was an incredible game as well, but yet again, the story just kind of fell flat.

Bioware also has a larger resume of games than Bethesda, but it's not just the quantity, it's the quality. Bioware just has this down. They have handled multiple franchises and have found success with just about every last one. I mean when you look at the games they've produced lately, some of the best RPG's of the past ten to fifteen years came from Bioware.

And chances are good they'll keep it going for quite some time.
 

blankedboy

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I really need to play some BioWare games at some point.
I voted Bethesda because I fuckin' loved Morrowind.
 

Alexandria Pajak

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My boyfriend and I are ALWAYS saying this. I'm a RABID Bethesda fangirl, and he's BioWare all the way, but we're thinking they should combine for the same reasons, and then hook up with Steam :D
 

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PatrickXD said:
I might be biased, because my experience with Bioware is limited to the Mass Effect's and Dragon Age whereas I've been playing Morrowind for about 8 years now but I don't like Bioware games. They are too restricted and I find the huge overbearing plot really saps the fun factor from the games.
That's the exact reason why I like Bioware over Bethesda's products because of the story and structure. I can't focus on long not structured like Morrowind.
 

JMeganSnow

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I like them both for different reasons, but I prefer Bioware--Bethesda just craps out on plot too much for them to be my favorite.
 

duktapeman90

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Alexandria Pajak said:
they should combine for the same reasons, and then hook up with Steam :D
That could ether be the single greatest or single worst idea ever. On that note, I think they should go for it.
 

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MrJKapowey said:
rockyoumonkeys said:
Eh...both are great, but Bethesda loses points for having their name attached to the abomination known as Fallout New Vegas. I know they didn't develop it, but they still published it.

Bioware's games are great, but I think I still enjoyed getting lost in the worlds of Oblivion and Fallout 3 enough to even the scales.
Sorry, but what was so bad about F:NV?
I liked the story and the chars and the faction interaction. It was even made by the guys who made 1+2 so no studio fanboyisms.
Well primarily it was the fact that it didn't work. Shame on me for playing the game before this miraculous patch (which I'm still skeptical about.) came out, because the game froze constantly, and I had other problems as well, like not getting any sound 80% of the time I started the game up.

So yeah, maybe that fact took me out of the game when I had to get up every 20 minutes to do a hard-reset of the system, or how I started to FEAR doors because of the potential for infinite load screens. That'll certainly distrupt the flow of the game.

But it just felt SMALLER than Fallout 3. So much time is spent in and around New Vegas, that the whole "apocalyptic wasteland" effect was somewhat dulled and it's just a bunch of somewhat dirty casinos or hotels.

Now granted, I didn't play much of the first two games, so the fact that it's "more like them" is lost on me, but I don't really buy that as a good reason to defend it anyway. A game should be good for its own reasons, not because it's more like something you enjoyed ten or fifteen years ago.

Fallout 3 worked fine for me. First time I played it (on PS3), got one freeze in like 90 hours, just near the end. Played it two more times on the 360 with the DLC, no freezes. No problems. So I guess it's even sadder that a "bunch of fanboys" made a better Fallout game than the original developers? Hmmm.
 

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Durxom said:
I'm going to say neither and go with Obsidian. They make better games in each's respective franchises than the companies can do themselves. They also could have probably fixed the massive disappointment that Mass Effect 2 was too :/
Thank you.
 

MrJKapowey

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rockyoumonkeys said:
Well primarily it was the fact that it didn't work. Shame on me for playing the game before this miraculous patch (which I'm still skeptical about.) came out, because the game froze constantly, and I had other problems as well, like not getting any sound 80% of the time I started the game up.

So yeah, maybe that fact took me out of the game when I had to get up every 20 minutes to do a hard-reset of the system, or how I started to FEAR doors because of the potential for infinite load screens. That'll certainly distrupt the flow of the game.

But it just felt SMALLER than Fallout 3. So much time is spent in and around New Vegas, that the whole "apocalyptic wasteland" effect was somewhat dulled and it's just a bunch of somewhat dirty casinos or hotels.

Now granted, I didn't play much of the first two games, so the fact that it's "more like them" is lost on me, but I don't really buy that as a good reason to defend it anyway. A game should be good for its own reasons, not because it's more like something you enjoyed ten or fifteen years ago.

Fallout 3 worked fine for me. First time I played it (on PS3), got one freeze in like 90 hours, just near the end. Played it two more times on the 360 with the DLC, no freezes. No problems. So I guess it's even sadder that a "bunch of fanboys" made a better Fallout game than the original developers? Hmmm.
One: Preordered off Amazon, ONE bug, in 70 hours so far. What was that? a body starfished (or whatever the technical term is for limb stretching)

Two: Okay yeah. The time spent around Vegas and the arbitrary height limit stopping you from crossing most small (in height) sheer faces is f*cked up.

Three: 15 years ago, I wasn't alive. I'm 14 and have only playyed Fo:3 and Fo:NV in that series. I mentioned that because of ALL the other dev haters who whine about 'Bethesda ruined my turn based 2d RPG and made it into one of the best (IMO) RPGs I have played. Just a precaution.
 

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Aww hell. I can't choose. I love both developers. BioWare for it's well written, well though out story lines and Bethesda for their big, open worlds.
I'm a huge Elder Scrolls fan, KOTOR fan, Dragon Age fan, Jade Empire fan and Mass Effect fan.
So... I can't choose.
 

toothofymir

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As much as I love Oblivion and Fallout 3, I love Mass Effect (1+2), KOTOR (1), and Dragon Age: Origins more.
 

toothofymir

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@Durxom

Really? Obsidian's sequels have universally scored less then the original Bioware (or Bethesda in one case) produced product. KOTOR II {Obsidian} scored less than the original KOTOR (Bioware). Neverwinter Nights II (Obsidian) scored less than the original Neverwinter Nights (Bioware). Fallout New Vegas (Obsidain) scored less than its predecessor, Fallout 3 (Behtesda).
The only original IP they ahve is Alpha Protocol, and that didn't get favorable reviews at all.

Don't get me wrong, Obsidian is still a great developer, they're just not at the same level as Bioware or Bethesda.
 

Talvrae

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Easy one i love more than any other video game company, BIOWARE
the other one i could not care less *cought* Bethesda